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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:08 PM
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FR: "Holding Palin culpable is just as terrible" as Giffords getting shot.
To: ataDude

There are NO limits to how brazen the MSM will be to blame Sarah Palin on everything that has gone wrong in America.

Yes, this incident is terrible, but for the MSM to spin it the way they have towards holding Palin culpable is just as terrible.

35 posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 12:49:39 PM by techno
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:09 PM
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1. Show them her hit list
Fuck all of them
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:10 PM
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2. Bull-fucking-shit.
This is what happens when you use incendiary language to a largely angry and uneducated crowd. People. Get. Hurt. Or. Worse.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:10 PM
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3. Has the MSM even mentioned Palin?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:12 PM
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9. The freeper post linked to a local ABC news site:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:12 PM
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12. ABOUT FUCKING TIME. thank you ABC.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:16 PM
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15. And the ABC article links to the "Take back the 20" site with the target map...
...and the ENTIRE SITE has been taken down...not just the map.

http://www.takebackthe20.com/
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:12 PM
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13. ABOUT FUCKING TIME. thank you ABC.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:21 PM
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23. Impressive, but I doubt it will be given anything but a cursory mention in the national media...
if that.

I will be glad to eat my words, though!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:12 PM
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10. they are too afraid. Instead they blame leftists for
potential violence.

Unthefuckingbelievable. MSM is also at fault.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:10 PM
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4. There needs to be a movie about these crazies
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:11 PM
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5. Sounds like this asshole knows she is partially to blame but is trying to....
deny it.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:11 PM
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The MEDIA is blaming Palin? As if. We could only hope. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:11 PM
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6. Um, no. No need to even engage that kind of willfull stupidity--but I'm glad it's on the nets
for the world to see.
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RidinMyDonkey Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:12 PM
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7. I call bullshit
Sarah herself must know she did something wrong. Taking the target map off her website proves that.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:12 PM
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8. I've seen nothing to indicate the "MSM" is holding Palin responsible
They seem to be jumping backwards through their own assholes to NOT refer to any kind of right wing hate speech.

In fact MSNBC kinda shut up the sheriff who referred to the "inflammatory crap on the radio".

Motherfuckers are just paranoid as usual.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:18 PM
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18. Local ABC Website (see above)...don't know about nationwide.
I don't have cable, unfortunately...I get all of my news from the Web. But the freepers were freaking out because the local ABC station mentioned the target map and Palin.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:12 PM
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11. Sarah is the one who started "reload"! It's HER designated
candidates who said "Use your second amendments rights" and "there's a reason our founders put second amendment rights into our constitution". Where have all the threats come fro? It sure wasn't the Left!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:14 PM
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14. Sarah "Crosshairs Queen" Palin is just as guilty as the shooter.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:17 PM
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16. I suspect intial comments at FR are palin agents, laying out talking points.
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Takket Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:19 PM
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21. not assigning SOME blame to palin...
is like not assigning any blame to charles manson just because he didn't do the killing himself. teabaggers have been making these little sideways comments about guns/shooting/taking back the country for months. now their suggestioins planted in the subconscious of their followers are comnig to reality.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:50 AM
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29. Welcome to DU. Your comment is the first I read since having
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 02:54 AM by snagglepuss
come from my Mom's place where we had been watching the news. My Mom who's in her 80s and doesn't follow politics said "the way things are today he has probably been hypnotized in some way." I said I didn't hypnotized was the right word. Somewhat later CNN showed his writing on facebook about mind control. Now your comment.

I was in a relationship once where I knew I was being played by someone extremely manipulative. I really didn't understand what was happening till I came across William Sargent's classic book on mind control. It floored me. Reading it made me realize at once that the person I loved was seriously messing with my head using sophistated pyschological techiques, that the situation I was in was dangerous. I have since learned that I was involved with someone who was a borderline sociopath and that sociopaths are masters at mind control.

I mention this because IMO the assassin who has a history of pyschological issues is the kind of person extremely susceptible to comments teabaggers/palin/hate radio have been drumming into people's head. His writing about mind control indicates he had some awareness of what was happening however it is clear he didn't have either the will or the way to extricate himself from their influence.

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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:20 PM
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22. They are labeling Giffords as a "Blue Dog"...
...and saying she may have been shot by a "disgruntled leftie."

That's just one of their angles. But they are adamant about denying any teabagger involvement.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:17 PM
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17. Okay, I'm going to violate
one of my rules. I'm going to mention Hitler. Yes, I'm going to point out that I do not think there is any evidence that Hitler ever personally killed anyone. Yet, his words triggered the deaths of millions. Now perhaps my comparison is a bit extreme but my point is words do have power.

Words and images spur people to action, some take it to the extreme. High profile people getting airtime talking about 2nd Amenment remedies for things they don't agree with can validate an unstable person's motivation to do just that.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:18 PM
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19. K&R. The right needs some push back on this...nt
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:19 PM
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20. Palin's name hasn't even been mentioned on MSNBC for the last two hours.
What is this idiot talking about?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:24 PM
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24. This is why MSNBC is so important
The media can't silence wide spread discussion of the Palin hit list, it will come out because MSNBC and Rachel and Keith and Lawrence and team have become too now too big to completely ignore. The So called Lame Stream Media may attempt to defend Palin by saying MSNBC is over reacting, but they will not be able to bury this part of the story.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:27 PM
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25. what did you expect? Are you going to now "Pretend" there is nothing to warrant
pointing a finger at Palin? You are full of shit just like the sick people you tend to vote for.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:28 PM
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26. It's got to hurt to be that fuggen stupid.








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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:30 PM
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27. Uh huh
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:33 PM
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28. I heard a wingnut say that people who try to assign blame are WORST than
the shooters. He was, typically, screaming his head off - filled with rage.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:53 AM
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30. Oh well, so much for personal responsibility and being held accountable.
IOKIYAR
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:54 AM
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31. Not a winner this time..try again n/t
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:55 AM
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32. Ummm...no.
Sarah Palin is at home tonight (I assume) surrounded by her family and sleeping sweet (?) dreams of hunting moose and thinking up new little metaphors for her "toughness". She is not lying in a hospital bed, fighting for her life. The two cannot be compared. That they are being compared is reprehensible.
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