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Very_Boring_Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 04:59 PM
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An important note to make about the shooters flag burning video
I've heard a number of RWers claim that the flag burning videos proves that he's some sort of anti-american left winger, rather than a teabagger (who, as we all know, are the pinnacle of patriotism :sarcasm: ). Anyways, he says in the video that he's burning the flag because there "is no flag in the constitution." This guy is a hardcore teabagger.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:00 PM
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1. freeman
more freeman type rhetoric. freeman are extreme right wing whackos who think ayn rand is too socialist.


they're like anarchists except instead of smoking weed, quoting goldman, and spray painting starbucks in downtown seattle, they do what all right wing wackos do: commit violence.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:13 PM
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4. "ayn rand is too socialist". That really is the sign of someone with a serious
problem.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 06:05 PM
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17. Could you please clue me in to a reference source
for this?

Earlier I looked at the Southern Poverty Law Center's hate group map and found a listing for Free American, which is listed as a white nationalist group located in Tuscon, but I didn't see anything specific about ideology other than the white nationalist crap.

I did a google search and found a site for a guy's radio show. I'll check right wing watch, but if you could give me a clue as to where to look to save me some time I would really appreciate it.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:10 PM
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2. Schizophrenics do not have any meaningful political affiliations.
They have delusions and hallucinations.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:16 PM
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5. And your evidence for calling him a schizophrenic is what?
His own rhetoric and interests suggest radical right-wing affiliations. He could be a nut -- but there's no reason for concluding that. And even if he is, he seems to be a right-wing nut.

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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:30 PM
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10. his writing suggests he is schizophrenic nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:33 PM
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11. I read it too - it's completely incoherent.
Even teabagger propaganda has coherence to it. Granted, they're coherent lies, but coherent. This guy's writing is full of complete non-sequiturs and makes absolutely no sense at all.

I agree - he's probably a paranoid schizophrenic.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:48 PM
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13. bullshit
My cousin is schizophrenic. He is also one smart motherfucker and knows a shitload about politics.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 06:08 PM
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18. Most Schizophrenics are not violent, they are far more likely to be VICTIMS of violent behavior.
When a Schizophrenic does something like this it is likely the person was incited to do it.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:12 PM
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3. A flag burner who believes in the gold standard?
The youtube videos, insane as they are, contain much obsession with currency and debt and gold and silver. The guy seems ill, but not a lot iller than, say, Glenn Beck. In fact, he is perhaps a graduate of the G.B. "University."
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:27 PM
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6. Don't think we can define or label this dude. He was all over the political spectrum -
- check out his youtube page - he lists his favorite books as The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno, amongst others. Not what you'd find on a freepers bookshelf. Look at his five youtube videos and you'll see a deeply disturbed man. I'm guessing he's off his meds or has just recently become ill as there is no way he could exist for very long without his illness making it impossible to function.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:28 PM
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7. This guy's clearly cuckoo. I think he's a paranoid schizophrenic.
His captions in his videos are completely incoherent - the ramblings of a madman.
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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:52 PM
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15. Bullshit.
It's these dumbass conservative types that are big on works like The Communist Manifesto because there always talked about on their beloved right-wing talk shows. I'm as liberal as they come, and I've never read any of those books. I'd venture to say most DUers would say the same.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 06:03 PM
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16. not true. O have read the Phantom Tollbooth and after doing so I read it too my then 4th and 5th
gtade daughters. It is a clever, lovely little book about a bored school age child that takes a magical adventure through the land beyond the tollbooth that mysteriously arrived at his house once day. He is accompanied by a dog that has a clock in his belly. He meets the mathematician and is tasked with saving the twin princess Sweet Rhyme and Pure Reason
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:28 PM
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8. In his list of books is
"We The Living" too, Ayn Rand...and one that many people don't read...so he's likely a real fan of Rand's to go beyond "Atlas Shrugged" and "Fountainhead"...


Although, he also read Hermann Hesse and many other liberal writers. Most of whom talked about freedom and fascist governments...so, I'm sure many tea baggers have read those too. (Animal Farm, Fahrenheit etc.)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:29 PM
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9. the guy is psychotic.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:38 PM
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12. Thank you for that assessment genius!
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Pancho Sanza Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 05:48 PM
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14. I find it damn hard to believe a sane person would do what he did.
But I'm not a shrink...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 07:53 PM
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21. why yes, working with severely and persistently mentally ill people for a
decade does give me a bit of insight. If I've read one rambling screed similar to what I've read of Loughlan's, I've read a 500.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 06:09 PM
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19. He sounds like someone who calls in to Alex Jones a lot
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 06:11 PM
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20. a classic RW meme is to make flag burning illegal. This guys a kook anarchist. nt
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