Stuart G
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Wed Jul-06-11 09:07 PM
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Changing Nature of the News and Evil. |
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Right Now, I ask myself this, "Did Richard Nixon try to dismantle collective barganing and destroy social security?"
I rember 73 at the Watergate Hearings beliving that Nixon was the lowest form of scum on earth. Nothing could be worse. Breaking the law and lying about it. Lying about a secret plan to get out of Viet Nam.
But this crowd sure beats him. You know the list. Nixon never tried to destroy the social net. Regan began to. Watergate didn't kill no one. He got caught, forced to resign. Look at Bush. Look at the lies we read daily..from all the Pukes... (without much dissent) yes some.. not from major Puke leaders.
This crowd is worse than the Nixon crowd. and I almost choke on those words.
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Wed Jul-06-11 09:08 PM
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1. If Nixon had been sent to prison none of these scumnags would |
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Wed Jul-06-11 09:20 PM
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I think this is true. They have made some of us lose faith, withdraw in anger, and see almost a lifetime of work for our government and/or families mean nothing. I don't think people on the hill or in the white house know HOW goddam angry some of us are. The repubs and little rich kids don't care. We know that. The day is coming, however....
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Wed Jul-06-11 09:26 PM
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4. It's not just a lifetime of work for government |
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It's generations of work, investments, etc. Even the most conservative of men, the Edmund Burke types of the planet, would condemn this destruction and theft of the public wealth.
Welcome to DU :hi:
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Wed Jul-06-11 09:32 PM
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Thanks for the welcome! :-) This is an active place with bright people. I think I will enjoy myself here....
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Wed Jul-06-11 09:57 PM
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I stopped to consider that the days of the "Labor Barons" who paid pennies and worked people to death have never really ended -- most of the originals are still there and hidden behind multiple corporations. Remington, DuPont, Northrup, Ford, General Electric, Motorola, to name a few. There has never been a true fair shake for the working folks, simply times when the economy was more even and we seemed to be getting a bigger slice or the pie.
Politics are just a horse and pony show to distract us, while major industries and corporations use up people and resources like old toys and toss then them aside. Every State senator and Congressman is bought and paid for, no more than dancing bimbos for whatever industry rules their home states. The United States is the biggest arms manufacturer in the world and there are almost 300 billion worth of Defense Contracts paid out to every state, Guam, Samoa and Puerto Rico included. Can't sell bombs without wars, so start one in the name of Democracy!
In 1959 President Eisenhower warned that it would take vigilant citizens to prevent the Military Industrial machine taking over the country. So the the 60's brought Chevy's and TV's and jobs to keep our attention while The War Machine did just that. Our entire economy is so wrapped up in war tools and wars that there may be no turning back.
The French Revolution is starting to like it was a great idea.
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Thu Jul-07-11 10:40 AM
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10. At times, these days, I feel as though |
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I've become a radical nut. I really don't think I'm a nut but I feel as though circumstances have made my views "radical". The funny thing is that my views haven't changed much since 1990, or so, but comparatively, they are now radical.
During the last 10 years, I have realized that Marxists are right about a few things. I'm no Marxist but the very rich HAVE waged class war since about 1980. They have waged it in a quiet manner and have cleverly used distractions and the ignorance of much of the public. Those statements would have seemed crazy in 1975, or so, but there are now many very bright, learned, experienced intellectuals who agree with those statements. Check out Kevin Phillips, for example. The tables have now tilted SO far in favor of the very rich that they are brazenly buying power and turning the clock back to about 1900, whenever and wherever possible. They have everyone beneath them so confused that many are playing right into their hands by supporting the partial destruction of things that can save them from wage slavery - the tax code, government oversight, organized labor, and individual rights. They are extremely skilled at making others seem like villians and at making economic policies that are directly contrary to the interests of the nation and the great majority of people seem perfectly logical and reasonable. They are now attacking what is just about the last strong plank that maintains a democracy - higher education. They have supported policies that have ensured that it is financially out of reach for all but the wealthy and, in a few years, some of the wealthy might have a hard time financing higher education. In addition, major chairs and professorships at most colleges and universities are funded by.... you guessed it.... major corporations who ensure that those with very conservative Chicago school economic and social views fill the chairs and professorships. They are closing us out.
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Thu Jul-07-11 11:03 AM
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14. wish I could believe that- It seems like he only taught them |
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that if they stick together, they will win.
The power struggle has been ongoing throughout our history.
The murders of JFK, MLK and RFK weren't just lone-wolves imo.
Reading about Pres. Eisenhowers cautions about the MIC, is telling- they don't seem like the words or thoughts of any "republican" who could ever be elected today.
The world has gone places that aren't good.
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Wed Jul-06-11 09:09 PM
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2. Yest, it's a sad day when Nixon looks good. |
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Wed Jul-06-11 09:27 PM
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5. Ever since Nixon they have been out for blood. And they are not stopping. |
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Wed Jul-06-11 09:37 PM
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7. I was working the evening shift a lot of the time that the watergate hearing were going on |
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so I got to watch a lot of the hearings. You're right Nixon didn't have shit on this crew we have today. Nixon was a low life but these bastids today are lower than whale shit where Nixon was only as low as a snake in comparison.
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Stuart G
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Wed Jul-06-11 09:45 PM
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8. I know how I felt then , and I know how I feel now.. |
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Nixon was awful, I felt it but he got his, sort of.
These assholes get away with, and are getting away with worse. NO IRAQ LYING COMMITTEE. No IN DEPTH CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS ON TORTURE... so much more..very very sad.
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Thu Jul-07-11 10:41 AM
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11. Yeah, "Tricky Dick" looks pretty good now. |
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He was the tragedy, this is the farce.
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Thu Jul-07-11 10:45 AM
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12. Nixon ended the draft* |
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which is why there was little protest at shrub's actions... someone else's kids are getting killed. I was 18 in 1970, and hated Nixon, in part, for endangering my life for a needless war.
*please correct me if I'm wrong
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Thu Jul-07-11 10:51 AM
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13. Agreed, and I came of age watching Watergate unfold. |
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The difference is apparent. Richard Nixon was a paranoid and insecure man who thought the "Eastern Ivy League Establishment" was out to get him. His demons were personal ones that led him to do the awful things he did. For Nixon the battle was personal: himself against his perceived enemies.
Modern repigs are conscious agents of a capitalist/MIC cabal dedicated to establish the modern feudalism that is the endgame of the financial overlords, who didn't exist in anything like today's form when Nixon was around. This is not a personal battle for modern repigs. They are, to ironically use a Marxist term, the vanguard of fascism and plutocracy. This is all out war against the bottom 95% for them. And they will probably win it, with the active cooperation of Democrats who are either coopted by the same forces or lack the guts to stand up to them.
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