Whether there's a direct connection between the shooter and Palin is beside the point....

[Junkdrawer]

Palin ran a campaign that put crosshairs over 20 Democrats and one of them just got a bullet through her brain.



It was and is an appalling lack of judgment. Period.

[tularetom]

1. Is Palin an accessory to the murder of a Federal judge?

That's a capital offense, I think.

[kestrel91316]

14. Most definitely, IMHO.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

2. and Bachman's 'armed and dangerous'... and Angle's

"Second Amendment Solution"

[ThomCat]

25. Yes, they have all been telling followers repeatedly of a need for homicide

but they will, of course, claim to be entirely innocent and say they had no part of any of this. They will claim that they had no responsibility for some crazy person's actions now that someone actually listened and did what they have been repeatedly asking their followers to do.

:grr:

Just like the so called "right to life" movement always calls for the death of doctors and staff who are courageous enough to still perform abortions, and claims to be innocent when one of their members assassinates one of those doctors or blows up one of the medical offices. They still distribute the names, home addresses, and pictures of the doctors and nurses and everyone on staff. But when one of their members meticulously plans out an assassination with the help of other members, after repeatedly hearing their calls for assassination ad nauseum, Oh No, they claim, they can't possibly have any responsibility for what that person did.

People in Every movement have to take responsibility for what they advocate. If you advocate violence, and people do what you tell them to do, then you are responsible for that violence!

:cry:

I hope this really tears the right wing apart and destroys a lot of their careers.

Somehow I doubt it though.

The media will no doubt do damage control. People on the right can't be held responsible for what "some whacko" did. But if he had been a lefty, you can bet your last dollar that the media would be indicting the entire movement he belonged to and everyone on the left.

That double standard isn't just in the media either. Tim McVeigh, the right to lifers, this guy, the tea-baggers that brought guns openly to town hall meetings last year, and yet despite real violence and real threats of violence from the right, what is the FBI targeting? The FBI is rounding up nonviolent anti-war activists and holding them without charges indefinitely. Peaceful people who want peace are the ones the FBI thinks are somehow the biggest threat to America.

[Countdown_3_2_1]

3. Sorry but that doesn't count as a threat.

Its just political rhetoric.

[TBF]

7. It's only political "rhetoric" until you kill a Federal Judge. nt

[PeaceNikki]

8. Rhetoric doesn't kill people,

not so thinly veiled references to murdering those you disagree with on ideological grounds misinterpreted by mouth-breathing slobs kill people.

[gatorboy]

11. And Mein Kampf was just a book.

[lunatica]

13. Tell that to the teabaggers

I'm sure they'll agree that them's just innocent political, reto..., retorr..., uh..., dang it words.

[RichGirl]

24. As a public figure you have a responsibility to think before you talk.

Anyone with half a brain knows there are a lot of crazy, violent people out there and you can't say anything to give them the impression that killing is okay. Or act as if gun and killing references are clever.

I'm all for freedom of speech. But it's wrong to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre and what Palin, Bachman and Angle do is the same thing. If they were wise and intelligent they would calm and reassure people, not rile them up. The problem is that there isn't a half a brain between the three of them and not a trace of a heart.

[cbdo2007]

4. Right!!! When was the last time there was an assassination attempt on a member of congress??

This is too coincidental for it not to mean something. If we had something like this every few years...that would be one thing, but for this attack to be against someone who JUST HAPPENED to be on SP's list of people that need to be killed, is just too much of a coincidence for there to NOT be a connection. There is definitely a connection and I truly believe SP will be held responsible in some way.

[bbinacan]

21. Leo Ryan

at Jonestown.

[Cleita]

5. What are the odds, 20 to one?

I'm just speculating. It seems like she lacked security and there was an opportunity to make an attempt on her life. However, why her and not some other Congressperson or Senator? Perhaps because she was on the list?

[The Wielding Truth]

6. It is irresponsible for her to elude to shootings when and unstable mind can take it

as marching orders.

[Wickerman]

9. +1

great articulation of the issue.

[Glimmer of Hope]

15. Exactly. CBS just showed a clip of Gifford saying pretty much the same thing.

[Junkdrawer]

18. CBS has picked up that aspect of the story?

Palin is toast.

[Glimmer of Hope]

23. Yep. Showed the target map.

[onecent]

10. K & R n/t

[lifesbeautifulmagic]

12. the statements, the books, the blog posts, the radio show hosts,

the cable news hosts, Ted Nugent screaming for Pelosi and Obama "to suck on this" while waiving a automatic rifle in the air, it just goes on, all of the conservative right wing repub base is guilty.

[malaise]

16. That simple

She's history. Bubye accessory to murder. Fuck you Sarah Palin.

[killbotfactory]

17. The media has let them get away with this trash since 2008

All of their veiled threats, and overheated rhetoric about violent revolution dismissed with a nudge and a wink. This kind of crap coming from a group that has shown traits of racism and promoted a willingness to use armed violence towards political opponents, piled on to economic strife, and a minority president who has received more death threats than any others, are inexcusable. They should have been called out on this crap long ago, instead they just made excuses because it was good political theater. This isn't the first incident of violence towards a democrat, just the worst so far.

To hell with all of these shameless frauds.

[Gormy Cuss]

19. An appalling lack of good judgment -- absolutely agree with you.

If Palin had one ounce of decency she'd apologize for that graphic and promise to tone down the rhetoric that suggests killing people who disagree with her politics.

I won't be holding breath waiting for her to take responsibility here.

[Ohio Joe]

20. Lack of judgment?

I call bullshit on that concept, it was a call to violence, plain and simple. If it had been lack of judgment it would have been scrubbed right away, instead she stood by it and claimed innocence with her shitty wink and smile.

[Junkdrawer]

22. It's at LEAST an inexcusable lack of judgment....

It's probably more, but that will need additional facts. And you're right, her refusal to back down is evidence.

[Junkdrawer]

26. Kick

:kick:

[bigwillq]

27. I agree.

K and R