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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-06-11 11:21 PM
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ALERT: The private insurers are taking over!
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2011/july/alert-the-private-insurers-are-taking-over

Managed Care Enters The Exam Room As Insurers Buy Doctor Groups

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2011/July/01/unitedhealth-insurers-buy-doctors-groups.aspx

"Even if UnitedHealth Group isn't your insurance company, there’s a good chance it touches you in some way. The $100 billion behemoth sells technology to hospitals and other insurers, distributes drugs, manages clinical trials and offers continuing medical education, among other things, through the growing web of firms it owns.

Now, that touch could get a lot more personal. United's health services wing is quietly taking control of doctors who treat patients covered by United plans in several areas of the country -- buying medical groups and launching physician management companies, for example.

It's the latest sign that the barrier between companies that provide health coverage and those that actually provide care to patients is crumbling. Other large insurers, including Humana and WellPoint, have announced deals involving doctors in recent months, part of a strategy to curb rising health costs that could cut into profits and to weather new challenges to their business arising from the federal health law. But United is the biggest insurer by revenue, making the trend much more significant.

Many patients insured by these companies are going to see much tighter management of their care.


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By Don McCanne, MD

http://www.pnhp.org/news/2011/july/alert-the-private-insurers-are-taking-over

"... Think back on how health care reform played out. Hospitals and physicians meekly supported the process mostly out of fear that their lot would be much worse off if they weren't there during the process. But who was placed in control, with representatives actually writing the Affordable Care Act? The insurance industry! Everyone will be required to purchase their products, Medicaid is being converted to managed care organizations, and Medicare Advantage private health plans have been expanding. The private insurers are being given control of much of our national health care spending.

Look what the insurers are doing with that control. In the full version of the article provided at the link above and in many other information resources, you will see that the insurers are very busy trying to buy up enough of the health care delivery system to gain control of the health care markets. They will not only be the money managers for health care, but they will replace the current owners of the health care delivery system. In the worst possible outcome imaginable, they will be the actual providers of our health care!

Karen Ignagni of Americas Health Insurance Plans stated repeatedly during the reform process that the measure must provide effective mechanisms of controlling costs. It doesn't. But now that the insurers are gaining total control, they will be able to bring us cost containment, but on their terms. How? As the CFO of WellPoint states, by owning the delivery system, they will be able to "manage care at the front end." They will use their own doctors to prevent "overuse" and "protect their profits."

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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:07 AM
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1. k and r
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:54 PM
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6. Thanks :) n/t
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:15 AM
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2. OMG. I never dreamed this could happen.
Y'all know the ACA of 2010 prevents DOCTORS from starting up their own hospitals and clinics. But INSURANCE COMPANIES CAN? Please...
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:03 PM
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7. Thanks, looking for links on ownership allowed under the ACA ...
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:22 AM
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3. Now THIS is a big fucking deal.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:06 PM
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8. We'll wake up ten years later and wonder what happened :( n/t
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:31 AM
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4. The "individual mandate" is FAR RW policy.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:07 PM
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9. Yes and put in place by a Democratic administration. :( n/t
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 06:21 PM
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19. Exactly. And some of us have been screaming this all along nt
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:07 PM
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10. Exactly, using the coercion of Govt to force ppl to pay rent to cartel = fascist economics
Sorry Volks, that's exactly what it is.
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One Voice Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 12:44 PM
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5. K&R...
Disgusting.

Thanks for the info though!







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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:11 PM
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11. You're welcome, better to be aware of what is coming. n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:23 PM
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12. kick nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 05:42 PM
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13. Look, the real term for the "US Health Care System" is EXTORTION.
Plain and simple.

Always was, and apparently always will be.


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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 06:10 PM
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15. And mandated now :( n/t
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 05:46 PM
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14. Yes, yes. You wouldn't want anything to get between you and your doctor.
Except, of course, the almighty dollar.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 06:13 PM
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17. Most doctors just want to do their jobs, not try and manage care
based on one's insurance plan.

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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 06:12 PM
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16. Who could have known?!
:dunce:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 06:15 PM
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18. We hear that same phrase too many times ...
some needs to anticipate. Now boomers will be straining Medicare costs, who could have known.

:)

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