Just to be clear. The Democrats that I have defended, voted for, worked for,

[Horse with no Name]

repost: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Horse%20with%20no%20Name/62

and donated money to stood for the things that Democrats before us accomplished.

Things like:

8-hour workday

Social Security

Minimum Wage law

G.I. Bill of Rights

Marshall Plan

NATO

Peace Corps

Medicare

Medicaid

Operation Head Start

Civil Rights Act of 1964

Voting Rights Act of 1965

Water Quality Act

First Man on the Moon

Women's Suffrage Amendment

Worker's Compensation Act

Unemployment Compensation Act

Rural Electrification Act

FDIC

Securities and Exchange Act

Guaranteed Student Loan Program

FMLA

School Lunch Program

Motor Voter Act

Davis-Bacon Act

Yes, these are ACCOMPLISHMENTS that benefited the common person in this country. The ones that ELECTED Democrats fought for and achieved.

I am hereby drawing my line in the sand that ANY Democrat that seeks to dismantle, change, or otherwise corrupt the work that REAL Democrats before them achieved...will NOT get my vote.

I don't care how high of an office they are.

We have never been the party of tearing down...we have always been the party of building.

If you...as an elected Democrat feel the need to tear down rock solid Democratic values, please do us ALL a favor and cross the aisle and join your brethren who ONLY believe in the betterment of the corporations and give US our fucking party back so we can get the real work done and HELP...not HURT.

[slay]

1. K&R

same here

[somone]

2. Recommended

I do not vote for lying conniving backstabbers

[Bryn]

3. K&R

Thank you for your post.

[femrap]

4. I wish we still had

Glass-Steagall. Alas.

[Bluerthanblue]

5. change doesn't mean tearing down.

I'm in agreement with you on much of what you've said, but I can't say that "change" in any of the programs/ideals you list cannot happen.

Our party was in favor of slavery and against civil-rights for an uncomfortably long time. We changed for the better and are still trying to improve on our previous positions.

[Jackpine Radical]

25. Raising the SS age and cuts to Medicare are changes FOR THE BETTER?

Damn, I had the whole wrong idea on this stuff, but I see the light now.

[Bandit]

6. That list is sooo yesterday

Today it only matters if the wealthy/Corporations get tax cuts....

[UrbScotty]

7. We. Need. More. Primary. Challengers.

If a blue dog thinks they can get away with tarnishing our Party's name, we gotta show them the door in primaries.

[tcaudilllg]

18. No, not the door. They shouldn't be permitted to run in the primaries period.

[Jackpine Radical]

26. There's no legal way to stop them.

But the Party could choose to defund them.

[INdemo]

41. Agreed..But mainly we need to show Obama the door and take

our party back..Yes we can primary him and win

[WillyT]

8. HUGE K & R !!!

:patriot:

:kick:

[on point]

9. I will not vote for a repuke, even if they call themselves a dem

[The Big Vetolski]

12. Neither will I. I won't vote for a Democrat who acts like a Republican,

either. Period. I'll vote third party before I'll do that, write myself or my cat Gizmo in or, if that option is not available, won't vote. This lesser of two evilism bullshit has got to go.

[Raine]

13. Same here

I'm done with the lesser of two evils crap! :mad:

[kath]

19. Nor will I.

I guess you can't post here that you will write in someone else, or your post will get deleted. But I will not, repeat fucking NOT, vote for a Repug that calls him/herself a Dem - I will leave my ballot blank.
And that includes the Trojan horse at the top of the ticket.

[hay rick]

24. Voted for the Trojan horse in 2008.

I'll help open the damn gates to the city before I do that again in 2012.

[kath]

30. Yep, so did I - and I cried with joy on election night. But no way in hell am I doing it again.

[rhett o rick]

33. I cried at the inauguration. I was duped. nm

[defendandprotect]

36. +1 --

What's going to wake up these people ... 10 more years of war?

[BlueJazz]

10. Love your last 2 lines. So True! (Get the hell out-of-the-way)

:) :)

[kenfrequed]

11. Agreed

On all counts really!

[Raine]

14. EXACTLY! k&r nt

:kick: :thumbsup:

[Dawson Leery]

15. kick

[tclambert]

16. . . . and bring back Glass-Steagall!

It separated deposit banks from Wall Street investment firms. Allowing the merger of such firms led to the "Too Big To Fails" that we had to bail out in 2008. Other very beneficial parts of Glass-Steagall still exist, like the creation of the FDIC.

As for the Man on the Moon, we couldn't get there any more even with the Space Shuttle. And now the Space Shuttle is being retired, leaving us with no ride into space.

I'm with you. Democrats should not give away their proudest accomplishments. They should fight for MORE!

[defendandprotect]

37. +1 --

[Aerows]

17. K&R

Well said.

[me b zola]

20. K&R

[Hell Hath No Fury]

21. Lots to be proud of, in that list -

and why O chose to be Democrat back in the day. And O's term plus The Third Way movement has finally convinced me I am a liberal first and foremost. If the Party should ever head back to the left, I will consider "moving back home".

[ProfessionalLeftist]

22. Tell it to those making the decisions - telling it here is not helpful

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Phone Numbers

Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
FAX: [phone]

Plus your own senators and reps . . .

[I hate liars]

23. +++

[Faryn Balyncd]

27. K and R

:hi:


:kick:

[MissDeeds]

28. Excellent post, Horse

I also am drawing a line in the sand. I will never vote for a candidate who exemplifies less than "rock solid Democratic values". Never.

Highly recommended.

:kick:

[jerseyjack]

29. "Where else can they go?" That's the attitude of the Dem leadership to the progressive left.

They ain't gonna vote for a Republican. Well there is a third place they can go. Its called "home" and they can stay there on the 2nd Tues of November 2012. I know I will stay home if he signs weakening SS or the Medi's.

On top of that, he isn't even pressuring to remove the Bush tax cuts.

[defendandprotect]

38. +1 --

[larwdem]

31. wtf

billy joel needs to update the song we didn't start the fire

:wtf:

[defendandprotect]

42. Koch Bros. funding the DLC certainly started the fire -- in fact,

over 20 years of their infiltration of the party, they seem to have left

it only in condition to support a president who will undermine Social Security

and Medicare -- an anti-FDR and anti-Democratic party agenda!!

That certainly is CHANGE -- just the opposite of "the will of the people" -- !!

[OwnedByFerrets]

32. All but a couple of them are bought and paid for.

[defendandprotect]

39. +1 --

[rhett o rick]

34. I gave a rec, but want to comment that we must stop blaming the elected Democrats.

We elected them. We are responsible. We must do something different. We must only vote for progressives and let the chips fall where they may. Maybe a little civil disobedience is needed also. NO VIOLENCE.

[defendandprotect]

40. +1 ---

Unfortunately, you also have to do what the GOP did, in reverse . . . target your own

rightwing --


GOP radicalized the NRA to target not only liberals and moderates in the Democratic Party

but also in their own party -- thereby moving the Congress to the right.


This is a liberal nation -- despite the constant Goebbels' stype propaganda aimed at them.

[sad sally]

54. If only a bought-and-paid for politician wasn't so damned expensive

there might be a chance our votes actually mattered. Too bad no matter how good they sound in campaign ads and campaign speeches, once elected all bets are off.

Civil disobedience used to be possible. In today's police state America, it's risky business.

[defendandprotect]

35. error

[Horse with no Name]

43. self-delete. n/t

[defendandprotect]

45. My apologies .... my error --

Removed my post --

I agree with this --

If you...as an elected Democrat feel the need to tear down rock solid Democratic values, please do us ALL a favor and cross the aisle and join your brethren who ONLY believe in the betterment of the corporations and give US our fucking party back so we can get the real work done and HELP...not HURT.


and somehow in haste misread it --

Again -- my apololgies!!


:)

[Horse with no Name]

46. I figured it was something like that...

you are one of my favorite progressives here and I felt pretty sure you knew I was not an apologist!:hi:

[defendandprotect]

47. Sigh ... reading too fast -- but no excuse -- and thanks for letting me know it's OK ... !!!

I actually sent you a PM to be sure that you saw I removed the post --

embarrassing -- !!



:hi:

[ooglymoogly]

44. why not just say what is fuk'n common sense to anyone with two brain

cells to rub together: Its time to call a space a spade. Pugs are dangerous paranoid schizophrenics and on top of that, they are dangerously stupid and greedy enough to kill or destroy anyone who gets in their way.

We all know what is right and what is wrong. All we are doing is just joining the grand kabuki and playing the game on their ignorant terms.

FDR got it because he was brilliant and kind.

Reagan did not, because he was ignorant and stupid and greedy and vicious like most pugs.

Nuff said.

[noiretextatique]

well said eom

[noiretextatique]

49. well said eom

[Jakes Progress]

48. I agree. Don't vote for pretend Democrats.

[ooglymoogly]

56. +1

[SusanaMontana41]

50. You are so fanned and faved. :) n/t

[neverforget]

51. Those are the reasons why I am a Democrat! K n R!

[a2liberal]

52. K&R (n/t)

[erodriguez]

53. The POTUS will never do anything of the sort. No worries. I got this!

[snappyturtle]

55. BIG kick!

:kick: