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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:47 AM
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Breaking: WaPo article claims SS to be cut, WH denies it, DU implodes.
Good to see that nothing changed during my week at the beach.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:51 AM
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1. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award
Special Achievement category!

:headbang:
rocktivity
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:55 AM
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2. Uh, telegram for you: WH admitted SS cuts ARE on the table:
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 10:56 AM by Poll_Blind
Per these two articles in my OP (MSNBC, Huffington Post)

Sourced from the White House. The White House.

PB

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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:04 AM
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3. Good reply
The OP is a perfect example of Icon protectors in action- throw out a bunch of smears, with no backing, and stir shit up. Each time Obama betrays the left, they go into action to try and keep people distracted until it is too late. The only thing that matters is that The Icon be beloved at all costs.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:05 PM
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12. Ordinarily I would let this go, but I respect you, so I will respond.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 02:12 PM by 11 Bravo
Please point out the "bunch of smears" in my OP. I made three statements, 1: I said that the Post claims that Obama may cut SS - I have the article in front of me and the sub-head reads "Cuts offered in debt talks", so that statement is a fact. 2: I said that the White House denies it - A WH spokesperson has issued a statement that any claim that the President approves of cuts to SS "overshoots the runway", so my second statement is also a fact. 3: I said that DU is imploding - the front page at the time of my OP was filled with back-and-forth flame wars regarding the topic in question - while you may debate whether or not my statement was a fact, it would require one Hell of a stretch to label it a "smear". 4. I said that it appears that some things never change at good old DU - do you seriously wish to dispute that?
So, there it is. That was my post for which you accused me of "throwing out a bunch of smears", and "stirring shit up". Will you agree that I didn't say a fucking thing to indicate where I come down on the issue? Your inferences are not my problem, but at least from this perspective, you have succumbed to the DU "Ready, fire, aim" disease. That saddens me, because, as I said, I respect you ... Hell, use the search feature, I'm pretty sure I have referred to you as a "DU treasure" on more than one occasion.
Oh, well, I'm pretty sure that my disappointment won't keep you awake tonight any more than your accusations will disturb my sleep.
I continue to look forward to your editorial cartoon compilations.

And for the noobs and others who hopped aboard with their "where are you" and "hit and run" bullshit; I have one son getting ready for college and another who had a baseball game today. That's where I've been, but I would have not have responded to you anyway. As I said, I respect n2doc, so I responded to that post. The rest of you just keep on doing what you do best ...

on edit: typo
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:51 PM
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28. I agree...another post worth of respect
Stir shit up is an art form built upon plausible deniability
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:07 AM
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4. Now what, OP?
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:06 PM
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13. See post # 12, the second paragraph is for you.
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:23 PM
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19. Mine was a serious question. And in no way whatsoever did I imply that you were a "hit and run".
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:38 PM
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22. Your "serious question" consisted of, "Now what, OP" . I hope you weren't overly burdened by ...
initiating that kind of thoughtful discourse. Also, I hope you can forgive me for misinterpreting your insightful and penetrating query as a sort of snarky, "Oh, YEAH, where are you NOW, OP" kind of a post.
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:40 PM
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23. I posted a mere 20 minutes after you posted you OP. But you go ahead and have your fit with me.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 02:50 PM by CleanGreenFuture
Just because you don't like the question or that I did not ask it correctly (for you) is no reason to accost me.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:07 PM
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14. People who are in denial will be pretty pissed when they find out their SS is cut
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:12 AM
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5. We have it right-Obama DID put SS and other entitlements ON THE TABLE!
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:19 AM
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6. OP apparently has become suddenly disinterested in their own thread.
:shrug:

Maybe it's the web of bullshit they just got caught in?

PB
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:07 PM
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15. Perhaps I was just disinterested in you. In any case ...
see post # 12, the second paragraph is for you.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:44 AM
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7. OP is apparently MIA. Perhaps candle-light vigil is in order?
:shrug:



PB
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:46 AM
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8. DU is not imploding
it's thinking for itself.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:23 PM
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18. I don't feel anything, do you?
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 02:23 PM by AsahinaKimi
maybe a bit of wind in the air.... summer breeze...
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:46 AM
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9. Hey come on back to the thread you started
Especially since your post was inaccurate.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:09 PM
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16. I'll say it once more ... see post # 12, and yes, the second paragraph is for you, too.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:12 PM
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25. See post #21
Bluenorthwest stated it best - I speak English, as well, and weasel wording is not a denial.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 12:00 PM
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10. If the WaPo is correct, DU might as well implode.
It will have no major party left around which to exist.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:14 PM
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27. Exactly
The cheerleaders here don't seem to get that, but those of us with a brain certainly do.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 12:25 PM
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11. Because, after all, we all know that WaPo never lies. Mueha-ha-ha!!
And Judy Miller had a tv show while she was a girl scout on SNL!!!

"It's the Judy Miller Show!"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:20 PM
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:24 PM
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20. Wrong!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:35 PM
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21. The White House did not deny it. I speak English, so drop the
word games. This issue is way too important for weasel worlds and spin. The WH issued more slippery Beltwayspeak. It did not deny as you claim, it tried to mitigate and distract. It would be easy for them to be clear as a bell, but they are muddled and vague instead.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:13 PM
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26. +1000
You speak for me, too. I speak English and I know weasel wording when I see it.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:43 PM
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24. What a bullshit post...I expected better from you.
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