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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:50 AM
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Greenwald: It's clear Obama, not the Republicans, is the driving force behind entitlement cuts.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/07/social_security/index.html

Thursday, Jul 7, 2011 08:08 ET
Reports: Obama pushing for cuts to Social Security, Medicare
By Glenn Greenwald

For months, the standard narrative among progressive commentators was that Republicans were outrageously exploiting the debt ceiling deadline to impose drastic entitlement cuts on a resisting and victimized Democratic President (he's weak in negotiations!), but The Post article makes clear that the driving force behind these cuts is the President himself, who is pushing for even larger spending cuts than the GOP was ready to accept:

President Obama is pressing congressional leaders to consider a far-reaching debt-reduction plan that would force Democrats to accept major changes to Social Security and Medicare in exchange for Republican support for fresh tax revenue. . . . As part of his pitch, Obama is proposing significant reductions in Medicare spending and for the first time is offering to tackle the rising cost of Social Security, according to people in both parties with knowledge of the proposal. The move marks a major shift for the White House and could present a direct challenge to Democratic lawmakers who have vowed to protect health and retirement benefits from the assault on government spending.

This morning's New York Times article similarly makes clear that it is the President who is demanding an even larger "deficit reduction" package than has previously been discussed. Headlined "Obama to Push for Wider Deal With G.O.P. on Deficit Cuts," the article reports that "President Obama has raised his sights and wants to strike a far-reaching agreement on cutting the federal deficit" and that he "wants to move well beyond the $2 trillion in savings sought in earlier negotiations and seek perhaps twice as much over the next decade." This is all in pursuit of "an agreement that ma substantial spending cuts, including in such social programs as Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security -- programs that had been off the table." The President, as part of the package, is reportedly seeking some elimination of modest tax "loopholes" that benefit wealthy Americans to claim, absurdly, that there is "balanced" sacrifice.

It's true that these articles rely upon anonymous sources, though multiple such sources close to the negotiations -- from both parties -- are cited in consensus about what is taking place, and there are numerous other reports entirely consistent with these. It's been bleedingly obvious for some time that the bipartisan D.C. political class and the economic factions that own it have been intent on massive cuts to Social Security and Medicare -- see George Carlin's 2007 video explanation below -- but the combination of deficit hysteria (repeatedly bolstered by Obama) and the manufactured debt ceiling deadline has, by design, created the perfect pretext to enable this now. As one "Democratic official" told the Post: "These moments come along at most once a decade. And it would be a real mistake if we let it pass us by." Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine is not a GOP-exclusive dynamic.

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Hand_With_Eyes Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:52 AM
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1. Please dont be true
Because if it is true, Obama is finished.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:21 AM
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8. I don't know. The media will lionize him for his courage and my guess is our Corporate Masters will
be happy to reward him with campaign contributions for his service. Maybe that will be enough to make a "lesser of two evils" campaign work for him.
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Hand_With_Eyes Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:59 AM
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11. If he guts SS and Medicare
The whole country will abandon him. The left will have had enough. The independents will see him as a weakling, and the GOP hate him no matter what.

It's a lose, lose situation for Obama and everybody else, except the GOP who will be dancing in the streets.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:52 AM
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2. Yep. K&R nt
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:53 AM
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3. of course, and look at his catfood commission, whose members he selected
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:54 AM
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4. I can no longer even force myself to believe
that this is not the case.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:55 AM
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5. Exactly. Who created the catfood commission
and named it The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform?


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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:59 AM
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6. I am going to wait until I know what is "on
the table" before I douse myself with lighter fluid and strike a match.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:00 AM
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7. Shhhh - too much truthiness is dangerous...
That said, this became very obvious when the WH adopted Republican framing regarding the deficit - if it wasn't already obvious by his choices for the dept commission and his comments in the sotu.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:48 AM
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9. Greenwald clearly has never played pan-galactic hyper chess
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:53 AM
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10. +1
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:38 PM
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12. Kick
nt
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:58 PM
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13. Sheila Jackson Lee said the heat should remain on Republicans who want to take down Social Security,
Medicare and Medicaid -- not on the president ...

"We should not let them define the agenda," she told HuffPost. "The president has done something heroic to convene everybody. ... We don't want to get into a mish-mash with the president of the United States when he is clearly on the side of the most vulnerable."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/progressive-dems-social-security-cuts_n_892210.html
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:25 PM
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14. That's based on her being unsure what Obama will propose. If the OP is correct & Obama is
the driving force behind the cuts, the heat definitely should be on the president and I'm betting Jackson Lee will be there for her constituents helping to put it on him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/progressive-dems-social-security-cuts_n_892210.html

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Jackson Lee said the heat should remain on Republicans who want to take down Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid -- not on the president, because they are still unsure of what changes he will propose.

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 06:30 PM
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15. k and r
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 06:30 PM
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16. k & r
Either he doesn't know the first thing about economics, or he really hates the working class.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:38 PM
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17. Obama enthusiastically embraces Hooverism!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:42 PM
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18. China AND Sister Souljah.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:44 PM
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19. K & R !!!
:kick:
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:11 AM
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20. Damn. I should have voted Hillary. We were all duped.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:29 AM
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21. I wish I had.
Supporting Obama over Hillary was the worst voting mistake I ever made. To think I actually believed Obama. :blush:
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 01:27 PM
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22. Maybe Hillary would have been better at this economic crisis and Obama later when things are easier.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 03:35 PM
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23. Both work for the same puppeteers.
I also believed that Obama would clean house because he is such a convincing and sophisticated liar - he's one in a hundred million. Truly, a rare find for the PTB. But I lost faith early on when he appointed Geithner and Summers to guard the Treasury against anyone who would effectively stop the looting, and there are many good candidates who would have exactly done that, such as William K. Black.

Check him out:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k-black/the-two-documents-everyon_b_169813.html
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 03:50 PM
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24. That's an absurd analysis that isn't supported by Greenwald's source.
What the article suggests is that Obama wants to use this opportunity to forge a long-term debt reduction compromise. It doesn't even remotely suggest that Obama is the "driving force" behind entitlement cuts. Instead, it suggests that Obama is proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare so as to get the Republicans to agree to tax increases; i.e., they want to reduce the deficit by cutting social spending and he doesn't, he wants to reduce the deficit by raising taxes and they don't, so he wants to draw an extensive, long-term compromise that involves two-sided concessions to reduce the deficit.

Now, this political strategy is stupid: Obama never seems to realize that the way to get Republican concessions is to fight them, not to give them what they want, which only encourages the sort of dangerous brinkmanship epitomized in this debt ceiling crisis. But it simply does not amount to Obama secretly desiring to destroy Social Security and Medicare. Glenn Greenwald is very bent on seeing the world his way, but quite routinely, the facts do not accord with that perspective.
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