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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:59 AM
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3 Months in Juvie For a MySpace Joke? For-Profit Prison Industry Locks Up More Each Year
http://www.alternet.org/story/151540/3_months_in_juvie_for_a_myspace_joke_how_the_for-profit_prison_industry_locks_up_more_people_each_year/


TruthOut.org / By Willam Fisher

3 Months in Juvie For a MySpace Joke? How the For-Profit Prison Industry Locks Up More People Each Year
Private prisons are marked by corruption, expense, abuses--and yet their reach is vast, and it's growing.

Seventeen-year-old Hillary Transue did what lots of 17-year-olds do: Got into mischief. Hillary's mischief was composing a MySpace page poking fun at the assistant principal of the high school she attended in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. Hillary was an honor student who'd never had any trouble with the law before. And her MySpace page stated clearly that the page was a joke. But despite all that, Hilary found herself charged with harassment. She stood before a judge and heard him sentence her to three months in a juvenile detention facility.

What she expected was perhaps a stern lecture. What she got was a perp walk - being led away in handcuffs as her stunned parents stood by helplessly. Hillary told The New York Times, "I felt like I had been thrown into some surreal sort of nightmare. All I wanted to know was how this could be fair and why the judge would do such a thing."

It wasn't until two years later that she found out why. In Scranton, Pennsylvania, two judges pleaded guilty to operating a kickback scheme involving juvenile offenders. The judges, Mark Ciavarella Jr. and Michael Conahan, took more than $2.6 million in kickbacks from a private prison company to send teenagers to two privately run youth detention centers. Since 2003, Ciaverella had sentenced an estimated 5,000 juveniles. Conahan was accused of setting up the contracts. Many of the youngsters shipped off to the detention centers were first-time offenders.

PA Child Care is a juvenile detention center in Pittston Township, Pennsylvania. It was opened in February 2003. It has a sister company, Western PA Child Care, in Butler County, Pennsylvania. Treatment at both facilities is provided by Mid Atlantic Youth Services. Gregory Zappala took sole ownership of the company when he purchased co-owner Robert Powell's share in June 2008.



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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:00 AM
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1. she knew it was wrong, expected punishment and did it anyway. meh. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:05 AM
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:11 AM
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7. +1.
Will be deleted but is factually correct.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:15 AM
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10. Sometimes
You have to take the delete because it is simply morally wrong to allow such comments to go unanswered.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:21 AM
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16. I don't fully agree with the poster you are responding to
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 11:23 AM by RZM
But your post is far, far worse. You are leveling an inaccurate smear and breaking the rules simply because another poster expressed an opinion that differs from your own. Shame.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:29 AM
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:36 AM
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22. so they can waylay any serious discussion of the actual issue at hand...
n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:43 AM
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24. i am a disruptor because i believe our teens are more than "just a teen" and capable of being
responsible. and knowing they are doing something wrong, chosing to do it, and then mad because consequence is more than what they want to pay

makes me a disruptor?

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:47 AM
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25. So you believe that no punishment is to strong for a crime, no matter how small
Are you Nancy Grace?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:48 AM
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27. i did not read further after .... just a teen and i knew i would be punished, BUT
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 11:48 AM by seabeyond
i am impatient with that whine
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:51 AM
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30. If you look at the thread, almost everyone is responding to you and not the OP.
That's disruption in my book. Write your own OP.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:52 AM
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31.  nt
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 11:56 AM by seabeyond
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:06 PM
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65. No, she is Javert...
n/t
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:49 AM
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28. Your response missed the point of the OP. People are being punished, not to change their behavior
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 11:49 AM by rhett o rick
but for profits of the Republicans. You tried to change the focus of the OP.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:53 AM
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33. edited. got to the update message. nt
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 11:55 AM by seabeyond
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:49 AM
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29. The consequence is a result of bribe
It is so unbelievable to read that someone doesn't have a problem with a punishment that was a result from a judge getting bribe. Another thing that is unbelievable is it is 3-month sentence over a Myspace page. I'm not a teen but if I made fun of Skinner on my Myspace page and he found out about it I would be banned, that's it. I would never be in fucking court over it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:54 AM
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34. repeating.... i stopped reading at, just a teen, and i knew i would be in trouble BUT
i did not read about the corruption. i am impatient with excusing.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #34
52. I'm sorry. But that's still nuts.
So it's a teen. That means no punishment is too harsh? Not getting it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 03:04 PM
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53. mischief, poking fun, a joke. do you know what the myspace was?
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 03:34 PM by seabeyond
i dont. just being a teen.

whatever it was, and i looked 3 pgs into the story and there is nothing there, just about the corruption showing the story is all about that, this teens mischief, joke, poking fun was offensive enough, mean spirited, ugly??? that she knew she was going to get in trouble for it. offensive enough that someone reported it, maybe the one being "poked fun" at.

i dont often discuss the penalties we should apply to behavior because i dont know.

my issue is the dismissiveness of what the teen did knowingly and then using excuses such as just a joke, and just a teen.

that is what i am addressing or was. that is why i stopped at that point.

we have seen bullying on the net, and heavy duty repercussions.... where one would say, just being boys, a joke. and end in a death.

i have no way of knowing how offensive this joke was.... nor does anyone else. they made light of it to draw attention to the issue, judicial corruption.

the 17 yr old knew what she was doing was wrong. and chose to do it anyway.

punishment fit the crime? not really something i put thought into. i was more bothered with the poor little girl, just being a teen making a joke.... at anothers expense.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 06:50 PM
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54. Well, I don't make a habit of endorsing punishments when I don't even know what the crime was.
That hardly makes sense, even if you believe in the half baked notion that teens are the same as adults, which I don't. :shrug:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:24 PM
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67. meh... is hardly an endorsement. but this is where my issue is
17, she is not capable of grasping being ugly to another? beyond her? i would think not. she clarified a joke and knew she would get in trouble. her poking at, had to be severe enough, in her own mind, to make those two statements.

you would prefer to shrug and say teen.

i dont do that.

is that endorsing punishment? i already clarified, though you ignored the intent of the post.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 06:51 PM
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55. (people are impatient with you jumping down their throats when you don't read articles. repeatedly.)
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 06:56 PM by AlabamaLibrul
n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:59 PM
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63.  she knew it was wrong, expected punishment and did it anyway. meh.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 08:01 PM by seabeyond
you define that as "jumping down their throats"?

really?

hm
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 12:57 PM
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37. Prison for a prank My Space page? The teen should never have been brought up on charges.
Fuck the police state.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #37
60. Not prison. Juvie.
Totally different thing.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:40 PM
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61. Oh well, then. Never mind.
:sarcasm:

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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:47 PM
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62. Facts matter. eom
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #10
47. I get you, bro.
:thumbsup:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:18 AM
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12. +2
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:39 AM
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23. a nazi? if that is your conclusion what does any kind of intellectual discussion back and forth do
and what does that make you, lol.

nazi.

bah hahah
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:06 AM
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5. So the fraud doesn't bother you?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #1
6. Wow.
Juat wow.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:18 AM
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11. ...
:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:19 AM
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13. That Doesn't Excuse Being Sent to Prison for Profit
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 11:22 AM by NashVegas
The punishment should fit the crime.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:19 AM
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14. -1000
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:20 AM
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15. uhhh...wow.
you are dead to me.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:23 AM
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17. Come On Now
Your kids have NEVER pulled a prank on someone? Not ever? Never performed a slightly michevous joke?

I mean, I hear you reference your boys on DU a lot. From what you've said, they're very well behaved and mannered young men but I have a hard time believing they've NEVER pulled a prank or been involved in a practical joke.

Do you really think one of them should go to prison for three months over a joke that didn't hurt anyone?

But lets take this one step further. Lets play a little what if. What if one of your boys egged a house, or TP'ed a house and got caught. Wouldn't you rather be under the assumption that the judge standing over the case wsa going to make a punishment decision based on what fit the crime, and NOT how much money he/she was going to get for unjustly sending your child to juviee or prison?
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #17
59. "From what you've said, they're very well behaved "
Somehow I doubt that from a borderline illiterate punishment fetishist.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:16 PM
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66. Somehow I doubt that from a borderline illiterate punishment fetishist.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 08:18 PM by seabeyond
what you won't find my children doing is responding to another in this manner. even in disagreement. they simply are not this immature, even at 13.

which is kinda my issue with the dismissal of this 17 yr old feeling the right to "poke fun" at another without repercussion. a society of crass and ugly without civility.

when the kids play these jokes and the repercussion is suicide there is outrage with the bullying. but because this article diminishes the serverity of her actions to stress the corruption of the justices, people conveniently overlook it to then be outraged where they are pointed towards.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:25 PM
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68. Yes, because there is an epidemic of Principals committing suicide over being harpooned on myspace.
Admit it. Fess up. You are OK with jail time for this kid's myspace page.


You should look up "bullying" in the dictionary.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #68
69. whoooosh, right over your head. nt
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #69
70. LOL. From someone not literate enough to figure out the OP.
You had a point?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:23 AM
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18. You are just trying to start a fight with that RW kinda talk. nm
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:25 AM
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19. But three months locked up for expressing an opinion???
Surely, you are mistaken.

It's been proven that this judge was corrupt and had been taking kickbacks in order to
sentence children, when they didn't deserve it.

How in the hell can anyone justify this...at all?

That's f'n scary.
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:30 AM
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21. If you're ok with 3 months prison for a Myspace spoof page and judicial bribery by the prison...
then I have to ask: are you SURE you're a progressive?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:47 AM
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26. UPDATE.... my bad. really, i stopped reading after i knew i would be punished BUT
went back and re read the part of judicial corruption.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:52 AM
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32. Thanks. Cant say I havent done the same. nm
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:01 PM
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39. Good for you!
Thanks for going back and reading it... The story was really about judicial corruption, and the for-profit prison system.

It's rare to see someone acknowledge an error rather than digging in their heels, so again, I say Good for you!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:10 PM
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Hum.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:01 PM
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40. Next time, read the whole article before you post something similarly stupid.
nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:06 PM
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:11 PM
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44. You can't spell ''correct assessment'' without ''ass.''
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:12 PM
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45. Congratulations, you apparently read the whole post.
Nice work!
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shoutinfreud Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:38 PM
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50. Are you a fucking idiot? Three months for a myspace page?
Everyone involved in this should be thrown in prison and stripped of their positions.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:28 PM
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:10 AM
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71. Stupidest fucking thing I've read in months
Just staggering, monumental ignorance of the article itself, the surrounding judicial corruption, and our legal system in general.

3 months for a myspace joke? I suppose we should cut off the legs of jaywalkers, right? Death penalty for speeding?
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:33 AM
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72. Disgusting. Shame on you.
I wish I were surprised anymore by the horrible things people post on DU, but I'm not. File this one with "why the fuck are you on a progressive website if you believe such things????"
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:01 AM
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2. In keeping with the spirit of your avatar,
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 11:02 AM by Uncle Joe
it seems the for profit prison industry is a racket as well.

Thanks for the thread, G_j.

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:14 AM
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8. we have the MIC & the PIC
and a few more giant parasitic monsters
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 12:02 PM
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35. And the stronger the for profit prison industry becomes, the more resources
allowed to them for bribing/lobbying politicians and judges to pass ridiculous, unjust laws or to give draconian sentences having nothing to with the severity of the crime, government can only become more corrupt and disconnected from the use of such a system.

I'm just amazed that more people can't make the connection on how totally destructive and dysfunctional a for profit prison system is to a free society!:shrug:
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:03 AM
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3. I believe that facility was featured in Michael Moore's 'Capitalism, a Love Story'.
It's a private detention facility, and there is profit to be made with each person locked up.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:14 AM
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9. The American Indians
made decisions unto the seventh generation. They thought long-term.

Welcome to your very own America Inc.: Fast-tracking our children, (and adults) into a profitable, punitive system.

Statistically, we are Prisoner's R Us. Those who find that uncomfortable will paint another layer on their bubble of delusion and ... back to our regularly scheduled, manufactured reality. There is one thing we still make here.

Nobody is knocking on your door ... yet.
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 12:53 PM
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36. The American Gulag is inventing ways to increase profits.
The MIC/PIC want a generation of medicated zombies brainwashed on the new revisionist 'education'. Convert or --let the punishments begin.

I hope I live long enough to witness the revolution that is coming.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 12:57 PM
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38. Unrec'd
Please describe the known link between judicial rulings in criminal cases and for-profit prisons.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:10 PM
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43. It was in the OP..
In Scranton, Pennsylvania, two judges pleaded guilty to operating a kickback scheme involving juvenile offenders. The judges, Mark Ciavarella Jr. and Michael Conahan, took more than $2.6 million in kickbacks from a private prison company to send teenagers to two privately run youth detention centers. Since 2003, Ciaverella had sentenced an estimated 5,000 juveniles. Conahan was accused of setting up the contracts. Many of the youngsters shipped off to the detention centers were first-time offenders.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:13 PM
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46. Ooops, thanks for reminding me. I almost forgot to recommend. -nt
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:04 PM
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41. The Kochs have their dirty fingers in this pie as well
"For example, it claims, the Reason Foundation, a strong proponent of prison privatization, has received funding from private prison firms. The American Correctional Association (ACA) receives sponsorship money from CCA, GEO, and other private prison companies for its biannual conferences."

http://www.alternet.org/story/151540/3_months_in_juvie_for_a_myspace_joke_how_the_for-profit_prison_industry_locks_up_more_people_each_year?page=2

Surprise, surprise, surprise.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:27 PM
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48. This is kidnapping - the judges and prison officials conspired to kidnap these kids. nt
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:27 PM
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49. This is kidnapping - the judges and prison officials conspired to kidnap these kids. nt
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:42 PM
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51. There was a Law & Order: SVU episode about just that
where they finally figured out the judge was up to something like this. In the end, the SVU squad conducts a mock trial and she falls into their trap. She was getting kickbacks from a facility in some other state and was colluding with a clerk of court.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:31 PM
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57. Those judges should be drawn and quartered for what they did. n/t
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:31 PM
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58. God bless America!
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:03 PM
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64. ARRRRGGGHH! Some days you just feel like screaming.
And it seems those days are coming at increasingly frequent intervals.

We REALLY need to do something about the creeping fascism overtaking this country. Before it's too late.
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