Right now, is as good a time as any, to work towards a DEM Congressional super majority

[MrScorpio]

With the Great GOP Overreach of 2011, we've got a chance to hit 'em where it hurts.

If your Republican voting friends and family members aren't happy in general, reach out a hand.

Let them know that the reason that things are the way they are today is precisely because the GOP usually gets what they want, in one way or the other, and the only thing that that does is makes things worse. (Hey! Overreach over here!)

Reality should be settling in by now.

So, help them understand and be a friend….

[AlinPA]

1. Thank you, a very timely and welcome post. nt

[tekisui]

2. I agree. I would hate to see how Obama negotiates with both

houses held by repukes. It would be a dismal nightmare.

[leveymg]

3. I applaud the sentiment, but it's unlikely that the party that traded away SS and Medicare will hold

onto the Senate, and now seems to be willing to give up the White House to carry out Wall Street's agenda of restructuring U.S. Debt.

[Wind Dancer]

18. Exactly!

I am wondering if Obama is truly a Democrat at this point.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

4. DU too busy beating up on Obama and forgetting who the real enemies are.

THE REPUBLICANS!!

We need to work get a progressive majority in the House or we're doomed.

[kath]

8. Uh, we've got at most 5-10 real Democrats in both houses - so it'll be pretty fuckin' hard to get a

real progressive majority.

[MineralMan]

9. -10

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

13. NO!! You get off your ass and work to get more progressives elected.

You are in no position to bitch, otherwise!

Forget Obama!! Work for progressives at the local, state and congressional level.

Don't give up without a fight!

[sabrina 1]

21. Anyone who worked hard to get them a majority in both houses

and the WH in 2008 has every right to bitch and to be skeptical that having a majority will make any difference.

Things have changed since those days, and the best way to deal with it now, is NOT to use the old strategy of cowering in a corner and simply accepting the old 'better of two evils' nonsense. That was done, it failed.

Now, the only Democrats I will support are those who are real Democrats. Democrats who stand up for the principles of this party, for the people.

I think it's time for the PEOPLE to develop a strategy and that strategy has to throw out the old failed 'we have nowhere else to go' routine. Everyone is sick to death of that. Look where it got us. A failed strategy, similar to the one used by this administration towards Republicans which got us an extension of the Bush tax cuts, eg.

They need to know their jobs are on the line IF they are not there working for the people. All those who have shown tendencies towards corporate influence, need to be challenged by real Democrats, progressive Democrats.

We know the Party Leadership will not back progressives when they have a DLCer to back. That means donating directly to the candidate, not to pacs which use the donations to back candidates we do not support. Let them get their funding from the friends on Wall St. but not from people they could not care less about.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

23. I'm working to get progressive Democrats elected. I don't know about anyone else.

I can only speak for self.

Working throughout the weekend and thereafter. If anyone wants to join me, I'm down.

Again, I'm not going to sit here on a forum brooding over which I have no control. I'd rather keep fighting; and if I/we lose in the end, so be it. At least I can look myself in the mirror and be proud that I did all I could.

I live in MD. I am lucky and don't really have to worry about this state going RED any time soon. I worry about my sister states to the West (PA), North (Jersey) and South (VA).

I can make much use of my time traveling to those states to work and not worrying myself to sickness.

[Dawgs]

5. We gave them a large majority in 2008 and they threw it away.

Why would it be any different next time?

A super majority of "DEMS" could be filled with a bunch of Liebermans. No thanks.

We need a super majority of Progressives (don't care if they are Democrats or not).

[MineralMan]

7. If you're not going to help, please step out of the way.

Thanks very much.

[Dawgs]

11. Step out of the way and get more of the same. No fucking thanks.

Your approach will give us another center right DINO.

Mine will get us a new group of progressive leaders that won't compromise from the middle.

[MineralMan]

12. Will it? My approach helped elect Al Franken and Betty McCollum.

Are they DINOs? I don't think so. You don't know what my approach is, apparently. More's the pity.

[sabrina 1]

30. + 1,000 n/t

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

15. +1,000,000,000,000,000!!! People are just going to whine and bitch because they're

mad at Obama. And yet, they still come to DU posing as Democrats.

Well, if you don't want to implement solutions, then move out of the way because we got work to do!

[sabrina 1]

24. I don't see anyone saying they are 'not going to help'.

I do see people saying they will not help elect fake Democrats anymore. There IS a difference. And considering that these are the same people who actually helped Dems get a majority, I imagine that now that they know just electing 'democrats' is not enough, OUR strategy will be very, very different this time.

It would help not to misinterpret what people are saying. Times like these have changed the course of history in the past. This may be the beginning of such a time. I can assure you that we will be helping, but NOT anyone who is not standing up for the people.

Corporate America has enough help, from far too many elected officials, many elected based on fear. But the fear factor has worn itself out.

And that's a good thing. NOW we can work FOR something. True Democratic values and bringing this party back to its prinicples. The charade is over.

[MineralMan]

25. You know, I can read what people are writing as well as you

can. You can attempt to tell me what to do and say and what not to do or say, but you will not succeed in either. I am not a stupid man. I can read what people write here. When I read that someone says that if a candidate does not meet their personal standards for what a Democrat should be, they'll abandon that candidate and not vote or vote senselessly for a third party candidate who cannot win, I know exactly what they're saying. They're saying that they'd prefer that the Republican won.

I do not accept that. That is the difference between you and me. There is not a single Republican in the Congress or in my state legislature who I trust to vote on a single issue. There are Democrats who I do not trust to vote correctly on every issue, but they will vote correctly on most issues. The difference is obvious. I will never vote for a Republican.

I work in the trenches here in Minnesota, starting with the very basic political organization, at the precinct level. I chair my precinct caucus for the DFL party. I try my best to nominate or endorse the very best possible candidate for each office. Sometimes my choice of candidates gets our endorsement. Occasionally he or she does not. When my choice does not get the endorsement or nomination, I do not turn to Republicans or futile third party candidates. I help the nominee of the party win the election. I know what the alternative is.

You write to me as if I am a child. I have been a political activist since 1965. You overreach. I do not need instruction from you on how to work for progressive principles. I will do as I see fit, and what I will do is work to elect the very best candidate for each office who can win that election. That will be the Democrat, in virtually every case.

You may do as you see fit. I don't care. Just stay out of my way in my precinct, my district, and my state. I will not tolerate destructive forces who would destroy the country to make a point. Never. You think you can change history? Good luck with that. Martin Luther King helped to change history, and died in the process. I walked with that man. I drove, at the age of 19, across the country just to hear him speak. The anti-war protestors in the 60s helped to change history. I stood, in 1969, outside of the Pentagon in my USAF uniform to protest that war. Do not presume to tell me about politics. You do not have the credentials to do so.

If you will not help, then stand aside.

You may want to put me on ignore, because what I write is going to annoy the crap out of you for the next year or so. As 2012 progresses, I am going to become more and more offensive to you, I'm sure.

[sabrina 1]

26. Why would you assume that what you write would annoy 'the crap

out of me'??? How silly. Disagreement does not translate in having the 'crap bothered out of' one. It simply means disagreeing. This is a discussion board. I would not bother with it if I were to put everyone I disagree with on ignore.

As for your 'orders' to me to 'get out of your way'? Are you serious? If I were to live in the same precinct as you, I would do what I think is right, regardless of your assumption that you can tell people to 'get out of your way'. Sorry, we are in a democracy and while you may do what you think is right, and while I may not agree with it, I would never presume to tell you to 'get out of my way'. Interesting!

You speak to people as if they were children, perhaps that's why you get the responses you get from them.

You know nothing about my credentials btw, or anyone else's here.

You may want to put ME on ignore, as it seems my not agreeing with everything you say, is disturbing to you. You can say whatever you like, I assure you it will not bother me at all, but I will respond to anyone on this board to state my opinion, and if that bothers you so much, then it's best that you do use the ignore function. People are NOT going to agree with every word you say, sorry.

[MineralMan]

27. No, you do not live in my precinct or my state.

Do as you please. I will do the same.

[sabrina 1]

28. Well, I'm glad you cleared that up.

You may do as you see fit. I don't care. Just stay out of my way in my precinct, my district, and my state. I will not tolerate destructive forces who would destroy the country to make a point. Never.

That sounded like a warning not to think about moving to 'your precinct, your district, your state'. That would be silly, in a democracy.

To state to another DUer that you intend to become more offensive to them? Is this how you win people over for the Democratic Party?

I doubt you could become any more offensive, if I were worried about that, than you have already. Calling someone a 'destructive force' might generally be considered pretty offensive and although 'carefully worded' :eyes: seems to me to border on a violation of the rules here. Fortunately, I have a pretty thick skin. But others might not, just fyi.

Now, I have some phone calls to make to members of Congress ~

[MineralMan]

6. It is, indeed. Tomorrow may be too late.

2012 will be here before we know it, and it's time to begin working.

[elleng]

10. Yes, and a bit of an understatement, not 'as good a time as any'

but probably won't get any better, ever, considering chaos in the repug overrun states, actions of Congressional repugs re: taxes/deficit which are counter to actions THE PEOPLE want, according to polling, AND total absense of ANY repug sponsored jobs legislation.

[Bluerthanblue]

14. amen!!

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[21st Century FDR]

16. You mean like the "supermajority" that gave us Romneycare on bad steroids?

What's REALLY better...

67 people in the Senate who CALL themselves "Democrats" and then vote for unending wars and predatory capitalism.

or

51 people in the Senate who actually vote for FDR New Deal Democracy?

[DocMac]

17. States with Republican Governors are learning

that there are consequences for that. Big time!

[sabrina 1]

31. Actually those states have resulted in some extraordinarily

good reactions, a revival eg, of the Labor Movement, a recall of many Repubs with some great Progressive new candidates likely to win a few seats they might have otherwise.

Had Dems won those governorships, the people might not have wakened up so fast, so what SEEMED like a bad thing, has turned out to be a very much needed awakening and the start of a movement against the far right, and a more progressive movement ready to fight against both the far right, and phony Dems who are a huge part of the problems we have right now.

[slay]

19. I don't see much difference between the two parties these days

both very pro-corporate - pro-rich - pro-war. i'm sick of both of um.

[Blue Owl]

20. The GOP is already a super minority

Shouldn't be that difficult, it's the M$M's distorted, fucked-up coverage that will be the biggest obstacle. They'll just make the tea party appear even bigger.

[damntexdem]

22. If it's Dem, not DINO, not Third Way.

If it's the latter, forget it.

[Vanje]

29. Yeah?

Well, we had one recently. Remember? Shortly after 2008?
Hell of a lot of good it did us.

Fuck it.