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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:21 PM Original message |
Obama refused to speak to Democratic Caucus - Dems learn of Obama-GOP SS-cut deal thru press |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Source? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Who knows. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. TPM has something on it. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Deleted message |
gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
59. I hate it when people call others apologists, |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. Fred on the corner who over heard it from a guy he |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. There's a direct quote from Mikulski in the OP - that indicates |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. “We would have preferred to hear it from the president instead of from the press,” |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. Crickets.... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Stupid move that will hurt the party next year. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. one stupid move after another -- but hey, he's got all the $$$ he needs from Wall Street |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. IT is as IF he already has the 1 billion he needs to run again. |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Link? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. WaPo article first appeared last night. Here's the link: |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
60. But I don't think the WaPo article had a direct quote, nor mentioned |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Uh, he was sitting in a meeting with the leadership of both |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Today's issue of The Washington Post was printed last night, MM |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Yes. And the NYT did a long story on the meeting today. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Apparently, someone at the WH leaked this. Or, are you saying it was Congressional sources? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. I don't think it's all that apparent. Unnamed sources can be |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
67. Amen. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. And this news broke 24 hours before. From The Hill: |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. cuts to SS *as has always been the case* -- this is why he met IN PRIVATE with the GOP |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. When did Obama have his meeting with Boner? Was it yesterday? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Thnx. Can that be any clearer? "Pelosi was not informed in advance." |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. Keep it up, Barack. You're going to be truly reviled, particularly by those who worked hardest to . |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
7. I think that link was posted just before his meeting |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. no, actually -- he refused to meet with Dems |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. What's the source for a "refusal to meet", or is that circumstantial? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. the Democratic Caucus requested a meeting and he refused. pretty straight forward. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Please, what is the source for that specific piece of information? Anyone? |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. Roll Call- Reid last week asked for a meeting same as Gophers did. Gophers got an answer. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Thanks. That's the Senate side, what about the House? Anyone got that article? |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. The Hill |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Article doesn't say that a meeting was refused, exactly, but does report secret meeting with boner. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I have no idea what Pelosi's aides are up to on the House side. It's pretty evident |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. A new summary: met Boner Sun., Reid & McConnell Mon, w/ Pelosi and 3 others (bipart) next Fri. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Yup. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 06:47 AM Response to Reply #57 |
70. good summation (pecking order) |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. So what's your point? Everything is peachy? nm |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Er, Nancy just came out of the meeting. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. this is not about Pelosi, it's about the Caucus learning of the OBAMA-GOP deal to cut SS in the NYTs |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
9. Let him run as a Republican - he'd be happier. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. Piffle. nt |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. "Fool me once, shame on you.." |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
16. Cuts to SS are the equivalent of turning to piracy ala Somalia, they're WAY beyond "last resort" |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. They played the same game last December. Obama administration apparently likes calling the... |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. Won't work this time. They'll all be out of jobs next year if they touch SS. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. amen to that. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
74. I remember both Nancy and Reid complaing about the HCR bill and the President |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
25. When did he do that before? |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Yep, and a LOT we learned from that... Or did we?... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
28. The news organizations |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Sorry "ProSense" -- but you only get to "hear it from the press" for the first time once |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. If I had to |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
78. Don't they have phones at the WH? Why is everyones |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #33 |
76. Oh, is she still here? |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
29. I guess we're getting the "change" |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
38. Is it against the rules to suggest that the prez has engaged in assholery? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. only if you say you won't vote for those engaged in said assholery |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Oh, good. :) |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
63. :) |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
39. Yep. Even the Gophers at least merited an "I decline to attend" response. |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
40. "That's some cold shit served with a side of fuck you", |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. looks like we're going to have Republican in the White House regardless of who wins in 2012 |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
42. secret meeting with Bohner, too, which WH denied |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
64. It's just more of that fearsome chess, that's all. n/t |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
65. Why the secret meetings? Guess his era of openess ended, or did it ever start? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
75. Didn't he play golf with Boner couple weekends ago to "work out a deal?" |
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N7Shepard (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
44. Sanders should fillibuster this |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. one can only hope -- btw, Bernie's twitter feed is one of the best out there. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
49. Sounds like some of the same reaction to the WaPo flamebait. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. b/c there's nothing about cutting SS that should upset any of you guys |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. But to be fair, Mikulski is quoted (which indicates to me it's |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:07 AM Response to Reply #49 |
77. The WaPo flamebait that Obama confirmed today? |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
62. So, we know what the "deal" was, right? |
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peace4ever (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
66. they are getting the nader treatment |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
69. Tell us the details of this "deal". I'm sure you know exactly what was "cut", right? |
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