Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Obama Admin. OK's Shooting Wolves on Sight in Wyoming

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
Cattledog Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:29 PM
Original message
Obama Admin. OK's Shooting Wolves on Sight in Wyoming
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and new Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dan Ashe announced details of Wyoming's wolf management plan that would allow wolves to be shot on sight across most of the state.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:29 PM
Response to Original message
1. So hopeful! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:31 PM
Response to Original message
2. and as soon as I can find the link I can have more to say
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:32 PM
Response to Original message
3. i'm so angry i don't know what to say.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:32 PM
Response to Original message
4. Cause there are so many of them.
Oh. Well.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
5. Cause there are so many of them.
Oh. Well.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
digitaln3rd Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:34 PM
Response to Original message
6. Palin must be proud.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 04:34 PM by digitaln3rd
That's kind of an odd name for something where killing is the goal: "Wolf management program"? Maybe we should start calling death row a human management program, then.

So what's the difference between Republicans and Democrats again*?

(Not all Democrats, of course, but the majority)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:34 PM
Response to Original message
7. please call Fish & Game to oppose: 1-800-344-WILD (9453)
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 04:35 PM by amborin
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. they are closed but I sent an email
contact2@fws.gov
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:39 PM
Response to Original message
8. The REAL American way: Call in some predator drones on the wolves.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 04:41 PM by originalpckelly
Let them eat hellfires.
Then "accidentally" kill some of the livestock that you were trying to protect and call it collateral damage. Even if it was a young animal.
Hey, it beats shooting them from a helicopter. The wolves might attack you in a helicopter, right?
Have you seen wolves man a 50 caliber? It's not a pretty sight.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:39 PM
Response to Original message
9. Got a link for that?
I rather suspect you're engaging in hyperbole and leaving some parts out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. here is one
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. Go find an article and you'll quickly find out that you're wrong. (NT)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Uh, no. I'm not.
The article says nothing like what the OP claims.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Yeah it does...when wolves are left unprotected in any area, shooting
on sight is allowed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. No. wyoming agreed to maintain a population of 100. Thus can't have "shoot on sight"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Keep reading...there are areas where they will be left unprotected...
As long as they keep that 100, which is a pathetically ridiculous number, those animals can be killed there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. But the killing will have to be regulated in order to maintain that number.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #17
22. No, that statement is patently false.
They must maintain a protected population of at least 100 outside of Yellowstone.

There are several protected areas, which increase in the winter.

To maintain the population of wolves, hunting has to be regulated and kept to a relative minimum.

That's hardly the "Shoot all wolves on sight!!!one" policy that the OP describes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #9
18. Yes, some parts were indeed left out. Unrecced.
Wyoming would be required to maintain a wolf population of 100, which includes 30 breeding pairs, outside of Yellowstone National Park. A "flex area" (exact boundary of such to be determined) in Sublette and Lincoln counties south of Yellowstone National Park would be created and be an area in which cannot be hunted during the winter months.

In order to maintain a population of 100 wolves in the state outside of Yellowstone, "shoot on sight" would not be allowed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #9
23. Here ya go
CHEYENNE - U.S. and state officials said Thursday they were close to reaching a deal over how to end federal protections for wolves in Wyoming.

However, environmental groups criticized the proposal that would allow wolves to be shot on sight in most of the state. They also said a pending congressional proposal to exempt the plan from court review promises to undermine the Endangered Species Act.

Wyoming is the last state in the Northern Rockies where the federal government still manages the wolf population.

Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar said the wolf population clearly has recovered in the region and he expects to publish a rule by the end of September detailing how to turn over management of Wyoming wolves to the state.

Read more: http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/article_08b97118-a8f2-11e0-9f72-001cc4c03286.html#ixzz1RSyKmteS
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:40 PM
Response to Original message
10. Well of course they do.
Not animal friendly--this administration.

Bruce Babbit, the Interior Secretary under the Clinton administration, introduces the wolves, while Salazar (fake Democratic Interior Secretary) wants to destroy them. :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

I just love the thought of nursing wolf pups starving cause their mother was shot on sight.:sarcasm: :mad:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:10 PM
Response to Original message
11. The Starks of Winterfell will not like this one bit, but
the Lannisters of King's Landing, DC, are toasting the new moves by the administration. :puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:13 PM
Response to Original message
12. Don't give Cheney an excuse to fire a weapon.



Not unless you want to reduce the lawyer population.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 06:50 PM
Response to Original message
24. Just when I thought I couldn't be more disappointed in this WH. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 06:52 PM
Response to Original message
25. It just gets worse, doesn't it?
*face palm*

I remember when the wolves were introduced to restore the balance of nature. We as a species are doomed if we can't figure out that we have a mandate to protect all the species of the earth and not mess with the balance.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. One could let nature do the balancing if there no humans there
With prey plentiful, the wolf population will increase and their range expands. When there's many wolves, the prey population will of course decrease which then leads very hungry wolves either starving to death or to look for other sources of food such as cattle and pets.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 01:11 AM
Response to Reply #27
28. Not true. During lean times wolves stop breeding to
keep their numbers down.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tyrs WolfDaemon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:39 PM
Response to Original message
26. While I will continue to call and e-mail and donate to causes that aide my brother and sister wolves
I will also pray

I will pray that Geri and Freki (Odin's wolves) will haunt these peoples' every waking moment.
Then haunt their sleep and afterlife

I also hope that they will be the prey for the Wild Hunt once they pass over and when they
ask their god why, that he/she reminds them of what they have done to the wolves.

These people make me sick.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:04 AM
Response to Original message
29. Who the fuck does he think he is ... Sarah Fucking Palin???
:mad: :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC