Activism From MoveON... "If Obama cuts Social Security..."

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--- Paul Wellstone

[sabrina 1]

1. That is the line in the sand for many people.

However, I'm sure Moveon will be told that this is a 'retarded idea' before too long. This time I hope they do not back down.

[damntexdem]

4. It is for me. And I will become eligible for full Social Security in ... 2012.

And I just signed up for Medicare.

So, it's not just political, it's also personal.

[defendandprotect]

36. Obama has already cut Social Security -- he cut the COLA's which keep it from becoming poverty wage

It wasn't W Bush who did that -- it was Obama --

The CPI has been gimmicked, as well -- and if Obama doesn't know that he

isn't fit to be president.

[LoisB]

44. In the same boat

Signed up for Medicare Part A last month; full retirement 2012 (66 years old) and NOW they tell me tough patootie??!!

[Warpy]

6. It's my line in the sand because it's dishonest and unnecessary

I already refuse to give to the DCCC, targeting my donations to pols who sound like they might be on my side (and Pelosi's getting some of my ill gotten cash this time).

I won't give one dime to Obama if he backs down on this. Since so much of his 2008 war chest was from small donors like me, he needs to think about this one long and hard.

I'm delighted the GOP has decided to close a few loopholes, don't get me wrong, although I strongly suspect they were targeted to wealthy individuals who have since died and whose heirs have better sense. However, the only thing that will work is rolling back Stupid's tax cuts, all of them, even the ones I got. That's shared sacrifice, right there, in a nutshell and nothing else will do.

[dbonds]

8. I'm out of sand.

My line was crossed so many times there is no sand left.

[Vinnie From Indy]

10. And, my finger hurts from drawing so many

I would have just used a stick had I known how many lines I would drawing. I think I will get some concrete and make this a permanent and final line.

[Dappleganger]

14. +10000

[WCGreen]

17. That, my friend, is priceless....

[gkhouston]

26. I drank my sand.

Still in the desert.

[FiveGoodMen]

2. Another dime? I won't give him another vote.

He'll get plenty of money from the folks he's really serving.

[LynneSin]

9. So if what was posted from Daily Kos is true - that our SS would be affected by 13 cents

you still won't vote for Obama

EVEN if that 13 cent cut means we finally end those damn tax cuts to the rich?

[Marr]

19. What makes you think the Bush Tax Cuts are part of the discussion?

[whosinpower]

23. explain how 13 cents somehow equals trillions.....

And also - explain how 13 cents strengthens social security - or even saves it.

Very fuzzy math which simply does not add up.

[FiveGoodMen]

28. If it only comes to 13 cents, I'll take back what I said.

If and when...

[amborin]

3. k and r, and here, too, a petition:

http://act.boldprogressives.org/survey/survey_obamamedicaress/?source=bp

[defendandprotect]

37. Granted DU'ers gave Obama $280,000 or more -- but corporate $$ is what he's after now ....

and it's been corporate $$ which has dictated his decision making --

20 years of Koch Bros/DLC infiltration and distortion of the party and

its one time values has been turned around now to make it the party of

Anti-New Deal and Anti-FDR corporate values!!

[ThomWV]

5. Who can argue with that?

[kenny blankenship]

7. "I won't give his campaign another dime"?

Pretty mild wouldn't you say - and completely toothless, seeing as how he's got the $$$ coming in from Wall St. and other enemies of the American people.

Dude digs a hole to bury the New Deal in it forever and all you can say is well I'm not giving him any more money? MoveOn.org should change its name to PissOnMyFaceAndTellMeItsRainingOn.org.

[FiveGoodMen]

29. Piss On My Face And Tell Me Its Raining.org

:rofl: :toast: :applause: :spank:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

11. Done.

:applause:

[Maven]

12. Not to worry. Barack already has millions lined up from his true constituents

That would be Wall Street billionaires.

[Bozita]

15. Yup, and MoveOn mentions some of them on another poster ...

[Bluebear]

31. sad but true

[defendandprotect]

38. Exactly .... this is now the anti-FDR and anti-New Deal party --

[Dappleganger]

13. Not a penny, not a vote.

[Bluenorthwest]

16. Cutting Social Security, defending Sacraments, waging wars.

Not the sort of thing I fund at all, no dime, no time.

[slipslidingaway]

18. Why no mention of possible cuts to Medicaid and Medicare :( n/t

[indepat]

20. The Bush tax cuts have expired: these are BHO's tax cuts who reportedly is willing to cut social

security in the wake of those tax cuts. If so, this would suggest, imnsho, that BHO is further to the right, again imnsho, than any other president in the nation's history, bar none. Hopefully I'm wrong and that BHO will prove my thesis wholly fallacious by demonstrating that he is not blinded by the right or willing to cower to them and will not sign into law any legislation not progressive. :patriot:

[femrap]

21. thankfully I didn't give him a damn

thing but my vote in '08. Lesser of 2 evils.

I say we should have a new candidate on ALL BALLOTS..........NONE OF THE ABOVE!

[kath]

22. Not one fuckin' penny, and NO vote.

[jimmyflint]

24. Um.....yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with them. n/t

[gkhouston]

25. The "to pay for the Bush tax cuts" clause sort of implies that

some people might continue to give Obama money if he cuts Social Security for other reasons. :crazy:

[Karmadillo]

27. K&R

nt

[RagAss]

30. Not a Dime or a minute of my time...and I don't care who wins in 2012...

The more fascists we get the closer we are to the showdown we need.

Fear the people who see themselves as already dead !

[dflprincess]

32. Even if he backs off this now - how can we vote for him in 2012?

Once he doesn't have to worry about reelection how can we trust him not to dismantle the system completely?

[laugle]

50. That's exactly what I was thinking!!

I'm so tired of people saying they will vote for him no matter what, since they have no alternative. THERE'S ALWAYS AN ALTERNATIVE--IT'S CALLED PLAN B'!!

[neverforget]

33. Extending the Bush tax cuts already did it for me

[we can do it]

34. Not a Penny, Not a Minute of My Time

[defendandprotect]

35. This is the result of Koch Bros/DLC control over the party for 20 years ...

Why would it make sense to finance any more of that agenda?

Keep in mind that the anti-FDR and anti-New Deal agenda won't be the end of it --

They are after everything --

[Rex]

39. But he doesn't need money from The People.

He can get all 1 billion dollars from corporations that are on his agenda. See, the POTUS no longer needs Our money - thank you SCOTUS. :sarcasm:

[laugle]

52. I always said

"he was the best candidate that money could buy," with a little bit of help from the media of course!

He spent the better part of this year campaigning/fund raising......nothing much on the economy/jobs.......

[defendandprotect]

40. Wellstone's picture is a reminder of the courage we all now need -- !!!

[SidDithers]

41. Imagine a MoveOn where...nt

Sid

[Babel_17]

42. K&R (nt)

[neoralme]

43. No money. No time. No vote. He puts my relatives into the street, and

I'm gonna vote for him?... Get serious.

[fascisthunter]

45. an Idiot Right Winger COmmented on that page accusing Obama of being a Socialist

how fucking uneducated and stupid can one be...

[obxhead]

46. A dime, my time, or my vote.

He'll get nothing from me.

[saras]

47. The Patriot Act was the line for me, the bailout was rubbing my face in it... it's far too late now

Obama is being guided by the Project for a New American Century. Whether he knows he's being guided is another question, and one that I don't have important information about. But as far as large-scale policy accomplishments

He made Bush's wholesale violation of the Constitution permanent - NO indications of dismantling the terror state.
He handed America's wealth, or what was left of it, over to a pack of criminals, with no investigation or prosecution of significance.
He's putting all the balls in place for someone (not him, conveniently) to destroy the most successful pension program in America ever.

That's MY personal trifecta.

[drpepper67]

48. Since President Obama didn't repeal the Bush tax cuts

Aren't they his now? I mean how long are they going to be Bush's Tax cuts?

When President Obama is re-elected to a second term and he still doesn't repeal these tax cuts, then will we stop calling them "Bush" tax cuts?

Or because he started them they will be forever known as the Bush tax cuts?

[Moostache]

49. K&R with a heavy heart...its already over, the only question is how much?

Captain Cave-man is not just a bad cartoon character any longer....he is the POTUS and that just makes me sad more than anything else at the moment.

[MsPithy]

51. Forget not supporting Obama for reelection!

It is time for President Obama to step aside and let a Democrat run for the office of the Presidency in 2012.

[laugle]

53. Amen to that! When do

we sign the draft_______petition!!

Suggestions: Wes Clark, Al Gore, John Kerry, Russ Feingold, Hillary Clinton

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!

[LongTomH]

54. Need to kick this again!

:kick: