How does 'nut' erase 'rightwing'?

[Warren Stupidity]

I understand why the mainstream media would like to erase the 'rightwing' part of this tragedy, but I do not quite understand why people here seem to be pushing the same line.

A rightwing nutjob shot 18 people in an attack on a Democratic Congresswoman. Nut or not, this was an act of political terrorism inspired by three years of relentlessly violent hate speech directed from the top of the Republican Party leadership.

[Ozymanithrax]

1. You are correct...

We should not attempt to just make this into another loon gone nuts.

[seabeyond]

2. thank you. i am having a bet of a problem with it too. we didnt say we were concerned with rational

hearing the hate talk, but the looneys hearing rw hate talk

[Spider Jerusalem]

3. Because thus far you can't really categorise his political insanities?

I don't think it'd necessarily be accurate to describe him as "right wing" based on what's known at this point; I can understand you may want to do so because a Democratic Congresswoman was shot, but you shouldn't let your personal political prejudices blind you to the facts either (and the facts of the case are not in and little known at this point; so far it seems evident that he is psychotic in the clinical and not colloquial sense of the word).

[cali]

4. because what I've read of writings present as someone in a state of frank psychosis.

this isn't about the colloquial use of the word "nuts". He may or may not have been influenced by right wing rhetoric, but from what I've seen of his ramblings, he's psychotic.

[johnnie]

5. Yup

Too many people making excuses. Here and on the msm crapalogs. Everyone is nuts to a degree, not everyone goes out shooting up political figures.

[LuvNewcastle]

6. I believe the man is insane,

judging from what I've read and seen of his works on the internet. I believe a psychiatrist will probably diagnose him as psychotic if it hasn't been done already. This is not "making excuses" for the man or the right wing in general. It's an acknowledgement that Loughner is not responsible for his actions and that what ever political theory he might embrace has at best a tangential relationship to those acts. Psychotic people don't think in a linear, logical way. And assigning blame to some third party because of some ugly things she said can backfire.

[Warren Stupidity]

8. yes and how does that erase 'rightwing'?

[LuvNewcastle]

10. Psychotic people don't really have ideologies.

They have conglomerates of ideas chosen from one tree, another kind of tree, and then a rose bush. I knew a maniac who went to church with my parents. He was fixated on abortion. Every time I saw him, he was raving about abortion. The Barnes and Noble had to kick him out of there because he wouldn't quit bothering people about abortion. Eventually the church also turned him away. Could you call that man a Republican? Hell no, because he knew nothing of economics, civil liberties, etc. His mind had fixated on abortion and, like a dog chasing his tail, he couldn't let go. That's what I'm talking about.

[Warren Stupidity]

13. Ted Kasinski

but I digress - you have diagnosed this person as psychotic?

[LuvNewcastle]

14. Of course not.

Read post 12. I just entertain all sorts of ideas and I think that it's a good possibility that Loughman is psychotic. I have misgivings about stating that, as I said below, because we have little knowledge about the crime right now and because of some holes in the theory which I also mentioned. I don't like this blame game we're playing with the right wing at this time. Our side has gone and attacked Sister Sarah and you can bet the Spinmeisters will be all over the talk shows in the morning. This is an ugly way for our country to exist -- one side blaming the other, no evidence needed. Let's see some more evidence before we start blaming third parties. That is all.

[Gamow]

9. At first I agreed, reading his rants...

but now that the FBI seems to think that he did not work alone, I believe that there had to be some sort of organized insanity driving the act. Teabaggers would be the first insane organization of people to consider.

[Warren Stupidity]

11. the whole insanity thing is falling apart

as I said, it is mostly irrelevant to the plain fact that this was an attempted political assassination, and now that it appears that more than one person was involved, we have an organized conspiracy to commit a political assassination. It is an act of political terrorism. The sanity of the actors does not really matter.

[LuvNewcastle]

12. It's early in the investigation and we could all

be wrong. The main thing my theory has going against it is probability. Unlike in the movies, psychotics aren't usually violent. For a psychotic person to commit such a deed, he would have to have more control over his actions than most psychotics do. I am critical about my theory, but I keep coming back to the fact that there is every indication that the man is disturbed. Whether he had help or whether he planned this is something we will have to wait and see.

[mix]

7. Few here are medically qualified to diagnose mental illness, yet

many trot out this right wing meme as if it were holy truth, based entirely on what they have read and heard.

It reminds me of Frist's diagnosis.