UndertheOcean
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Fri Jul-08-11 06:40 AM
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What is the local analog of the Fourier Transform ? |
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Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 06:41 AM by UndertheOcean
Battling a hangover right now from yesterdays 6 beers with colleagues This question comes screaming into my mind :
We know that all periodic functions can be projected into the infinite dimensional but countable space with a basis of exp(i*w*t)
This is called the Fourier Series.
All L2 functions (non-periodic but finite energy so to speak) on the other hand can only be projected into an infinitely DENSE and infinite dimensional basis ==> this is the Fourier Transform.
Now let us switch to a local perspective :
In my mind I see the Taylor Series as an Analog to the Fourier series , only local.
What I can't figure out is what is the Analog of the Fourier Transform Locally.
BTW , I am no mathematician , and all this is very non rigorous , just thinking out loud , so geeks in the house , what are your 2 cents ?
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Fri Jul-08-11 06:43 AM
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1. Is this all part of the Random Thoughts II audition process? |
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Fri Jul-08-11 06:44 AM
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:rofl:
Although this actually sound more like a Boojatta thread..
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Fri Jul-08-11 06:50 AM
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3. Okay, okay, okay - your beer and travel money are on the way |
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but as for the 'various experiences,' we'll just have to check the synchronastic infundibillium.
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Fri Jul-08-11 06:53 AM
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4. I think you need to explain your usage of 'local', first (nt) |
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Fri Jul-08-11 06:59 AM
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6. My usage is kind of a non rigorous geometric imagining of the thing |
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The Taylor Series converges locally first , meaning the farther we are from the point where we are deriving the series the more terms are needed.
All differential equations are solved locally.
I guess it has something to do with infinite differentiation and smoothness.
While to my mind all spectrum seems to converge more uniformly , for example the Fourier series and the sequence of reimann sums of the fourier transform of a function with ever increasing terms.
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Fri Jul-08-11 10:53 AM
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You would seem to need 'fractional differentiation' - not the first differential, or the second, but the 'one-and-a-halfth', and many (all?) points in between. Which doesn't seem like a valid concept to me, but neither do various bits of higher mathematics that are beyond my comprehension. You've lost me with 'reimann sums', too.
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Fri Jul-08-11 09:59 AM
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Fri Jul-08-11 06:57 AM
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5. Use of tensor calculus may solve your di-lemma. |
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Triple integrate the transform, apply the mean-value theorem to the result.
Take two more sips and call it a day...
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Fri Jul-08-11 07:02 AM
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7. Problem here , I have to learn Tensor Calculus , hey , hope you are not sending me on a wild goose |
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Fri Jul-08-11 07:08 AM
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8. go right ahead and get back to me today... |
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Fri Jul-08-11 08:39 AM
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9. It is obvious from your post that you want to know why... |
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Republicans believe that 1+1=3 if they were to see that in the bible. I feel your pain in not understanding this fact. If you do find a solution to this, then please let me know.
* I wish I could actually help, but it has been ages since I took higher level mathematics.
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Fri Jul-08-11 09:43 AM
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So, what would be the "non-local" "analog" of the Taylor Series, i.e. the "Taylor Transform"? That would then seem to be related to Taylor Series in a way analogous to how the Fourier Series is related to the Fourier Transform.
It's been a very long time, but I do remember generalization of the Taylor Series into function spaces, and that is the direction I would start looking in.
YMMV.
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