Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Krugman- Falling Wages

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 08:59 AM
Original message
Krugman- Falling Wages
July 8, 2011, 9:00 AM
Falling Wages

Ugh. That was a seriously ugly jobs report (pdf). Almost no job creation, with slow private-sector growth offset by falling public-sector employment; a falling employment-population ratio; and (I don’t know how many people have picked this up), an actual decline in wages, albeit a small one.

Let me emphasize that last point. My bottom line on the inflation-deflation issue has always been to look at wages; you can’t have a wage-price spiral if wages ain’t spiraling. And they aren’t, to say the least.

It’s important to realize, by the way, that stagnant wages are NOT good for recovery; all they do is ensure that the burden of debt relative to income remains high, keeping demand and employment down.

The situation cries out for aggressively expansionary monetary and fiscal policy. Instead, however, all the political push is in the opposite direction.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/08/falling-wages/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 09:02 AM
Response to Original message
1. the middle class is dying
aided and abetted by so-called "Democrats"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 09:04 AM
Response to Original message
2. Krugman is an ass. Inflation IS going up while wages are going down.
The two aren't linked anymore the way they were 30 years ago. Now inflation is tied to speculation, dwindling oil supplies, and the fed pumping trillions of new dollars into the market.

Yesterday I went to the supermarket and meat and potatoes (non-sale prices) were up significantly from last week. Oil prices have risen $9/barrel in the past WEEK.

Inflation is happening, whether wages are rising or falling.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. To have generalized inflation, normally it takes rising wages.
But yes, speculation throws a monkey wrench into the mix. But Krugman is not an ass because if you handle it like the problem is generalized inflation due to rising wages, you'll add harm to the economy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Krugman doesn't say what you imply.
He doesn't say there's no inflation. He says there's no wage-price spiral, and in that he's completely correct.

That's completely consistent with your point, that inflation can arise from causes other than a wage-price spiral.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 06:11 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC