The debt ceiling is a matter of National Security.

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:P

[Solly Mack]

1. That would be handy. Classify all discussions/papers and never tell the people anything.

Not handy for "we the people", mind you....but handy for a government that is no longer interested in governing and instead wants to penalize its citizens for expecting a government that actually governs. Conditioning the people, so to speak, into obedience to the new normal...Over the people. Beyond the people. In spite of the people.

Oh... let me add

:P

There - that takes the sting out of it.

[shraby]

2. Yup, and the republicans threatening to not vote to raise

it makes them terrorists, plain and simple. They are not only threatening the United States, but threatening all the other countries with terrorism.
The old saying about "when America sneezes, the whole world catches cold" was true then and remains true now.