Bachmann signs vow that claims blacks were better off in slavery because there was no gay marriage

[Bjorn Against]

Michele Bachmann famously called America under President Obama a "nation of slaves."

Then she got into trouble for suggesting that the Founding Fathers "worked tirelessly to end slavery." (She meant John Quincy Adams, the abolitionist president who was 8 years old when the Declaration of Independence was signed.)

Now the Minnesota Republican has signed an Iowa Christian group's "Marriage Vow" that reads in part:

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President."

http://www.startribune.com/local/125249444.html

I am completely speechless, just when I don't think they can go any lower they prove me wrong every time. When the GOP endorses statements that are every bit as hateful as those preached by the KKK it is time that the Republican Party is officially labeled a hate group.

[Danger Mouse]

1. She makes Sarah Palin look reasonable in comparison.

God help us if that woman somehow makes it into the White House.

[RKP5637]

4. It would be the end of the US as we've known it as she would attempt to

usher in a draconian theocracy and a lot of quite weird stuff. Depending on the house/senate she could set this country back into the 19th century. It well might not survive the onslaught.

[sakabatou]

2. *jawdrop*

[Kaleva]

3. I think you are reading too much into it.

She's referring to the fact that many black children today are being raised in single parent families. Altough one could argue that many slave families were broken up as members of the family were bought and sold.

[Danger Mouse]

5. ...in which case it is simply racist.

[lunatica]

10. I wouldn't be so sure to know what she means when she says things

Her reasoning is idiotic at best.

[Kaleva]

17. I wouldn't argue with you there but the way I read the article,...

the statement that black children were somehow better off during slavery because there was no gay marriage is a misinterpretation of what was written in the article.

[Bjorn Against]

11. I think it is quite explicit that this is about gay marriage, just read their solution...

"The undersigned do solemnly vow to cherish, to defend and uphold, the institution of marriage as between one man and one woman."

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/The-Family-Leader-Presidential-Pledge.pdf

This pledge is clearly about gay marriage, it is very explicit.

[Kaleva]

14. They also pledge to reject Sharia Islam and to ban pornography

[Bjorn Against]

20. They may have added a couple other issues as well...

But when they decry that black children are not being raised by both a mother and a father and then call for marriage to be limited to one man and one woman it is an extremely loud dog whistle and they clearly intended the issue of slavery to be tied to gay marriage. The fact that they brought up a couple of other issues as well does not change that.

[Kaleva]

23. I see the statement to be more of an attack on President Obama

From your post:

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President."

You'll note that she doesn't mention that the percentage of black children being raised in single parent families was about the same when Bush was president as it is today. She's trying to imply that Obama being in office has had a serious impact on black families.

[Raschel]

26. Well then that would mean that Black folks do better under the White master than a Black president.

Any way you slice it, it's outrageous.

[Kaleva]

27. I agree that it's outrageous no matter how one looks at it.

[Raschel]

30. Hey Kaleva!

:fistbump:

[Kaleva]

33. Right back at you!

:toast:

[Bjorn Against]

12. I think it is quite explicit that this is about gay marriage, just read their solution...

"The undersigned do solemnly vow to cherish, to defend and uphold, the institution of marriage as between one man and one woman."

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/The-Family-Leader-Presidential-Pledge.pdf

This pledge is clearly about gay marriage, it is very explicit.

[Raschel]

24. There's not much to read into. She's saying slavery was a better family system for the 'coloreds'.

Kept them on the straight and narrow, ya know.

[Kaleva]

29. I think she's trying to argue that black families are worse off with Obama as President...

then they were when blacks (in the South) were slaves.

[provis99]

36. that's even worse.

[provis99]

35. there is exactly zero proof slaves were raised by their parents in two person families.

They just pulled that shit out of lala land.

[TheDebbieDee]

6. I can't wait to see the look on that 8itch's face when she finds out her husband has "teh ghay"!

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. Does it mention that slaves were forbidden to marry in most places? nt

[ashling]

8. In slavery days the kids had it so much better (sarcasm)

I've posted this elsewhere, but here is a poem by John Greenleaf Whittier which is one, if not the, most stirring things I ave ever read:

The Farewell of a Virginia Slave Mother

Gone, gone, - sold and gone
To the rice-swamp dank and lone.
Where the slave-whip ceaseless swings
Where the noisome insect stings
Where the fever demon strews
Poison with the falling dews
Where the sickly sunbeams glare
Through the hot and misty air;
Gone, gone, - sold and gone,
To the rice-swamp dank and lone,
From Virginia's hills and waters;
Woe is me, my stolen daughters!

Gone, gone, - sold and gone
To the rice-swamp dank and lone
There no mother's eye is near them,
There no mother's ear can hear them;
Never, when the torturing lash
Seams their back with many a gash
Shall a mother's kindness bless them
Or a mother's arms caress them.
Gone, gone, - sold and gone,
To the rice-swamp dank and lone,
From Virginia's hills and waters;
Woe is me, my stolen daughters!

Gone, gone, - sold and gone,
To the rice-swamp dank and lone,
Oh, when weary, sad, and slow,
From the fields at night they go
Faint with toil, and racked with pain
To their cheerless homes again,
There no brother's voice shall greet them
There no father's welcome meet them.
Gone, gone, - sold and gone,
To the rice-swamp dank and lone,
From Virginia's hills and waters;
Woe is me, my stolen daughters!

Gone, gone, - sold and gone,
To the rice-swamp dank and lone
From the tree whose shadow lay
On their childhood's place of play;
From the cool spring where they drank;
Rock, and hill, and rivulet bank;
From the solemn house of prayer,
And the holy counsels there;
Gone, gone, - sold and gone,
To the rice-swamp dank and lone,
From Virginia's hills and waters;
Woe is me, my stolen daughters!

Gone, gone, - sold and gone,
To the rice-swamp dank and lone;
Toiling through the weary day,
And at night the spoiler's prey.
Oh, that they had earlier died,
Sleeping calmly, side by side,
Where the tyrant's power is o'er
And the fetter galls no more!
Gone, gone, - sold and gone,
To the rice-swamp dank and lone;
From Virginia's hills and waters
Woe is me, my stolen daughters!

Gone, gone, - sold and gone,
To the rice-swamp dank and lone;
By the holy love He beareth;
By the bruised reed He spareth;
Oh, may He, to whom alone
All their cruel wrongs are known,
Still their hope and refuge prove,
With a more than mother's love.
Gone, gone, - sold and gone,
To the rice-swamp dank and lone,
From Virginia's hills and waters;
Woe is me, my stolen daughters!

[lunatica]

13. It's heartrending

I saw it where you posted it before. It's stark and dark and heart breaking. What a terrible life for the slaves! And Michele thinks they were well off. What a putrid soul she exhibits.

[ashling]

15. perfect description: putrid

:thumbsup:

[Raschel]

22. We just don' know how good we had it till it's gone.

[BeFree]

9. No wonder you are speechless

That is one sick position.

Next thing you know, them being so sick, she's gonna start with the the idea women were better off as well.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

16. Is she incredibly stupid, or incredibly evil, or both? nt

[Dept of Beer]

18. AHAHA HAHAHAH AHAHAH AHAHA HAH AHAHA HAHAH!

Those boys and girls had it so good in their two *parent 15-person crap shack that they got all the **love and ***attention that they could ever ****need.


*That is until one of their parents gets sold off.

**There was plenty of love to go around when the slave owners would come around for a little numnum every now and then.

***They had plenty of attention in the fields from the whip if they didn't move along and git that crop picked fast enough.

****They had plenty of everything except for freedom, a country of their own, enough to eat. Other than that they were real well off.

[annm4peace]

19. she just spew's evil.. and all the while with a wink and a smile

Even though we all know Bachman is history illiterate, signing this document is just another example of her evil racism and misogyny behavior by supporting such a document and her belief that most whites share her views as well as these un-Christlike so called Christian groups she surrounds herself with. It is typical of so many fundamentalist groups who try to use hate to protect them from what they fear.
As a white person she disgusts me, as a strong and proud woman she disgusts me, as a Christian she disgusts me, as a Minnesotan she disgusts me, and as an American she disgusts me.

And these hateful ignorant so called Christian groups who like to deny the horrific crimes and inhumane abuse done to other human beings do not reflect any where near a majority of Americans.

The arrogant, ignorant people might take a trip down to the Abraham Lincoln History Center and go through the exhibits and see what life was like for a person born in slavery and what was the percentage of young women who were "breed" with their owners, foremen, sons of their owners, male slaves, even though they might be in love with another man. And what percentage had their baby ripped from their arms as they were sold. Or had their child beat in front of them. And what percentage where ever able to find their child again after they gained their freedom, before or after the Civil war. Thousands of them tried to reunite with their children or their children would try to find them even though they had been sold 100's of miles away. Pick up a book of the life of Mary Todd LIncoln's dress maker, or of biographies of many of the women who lived in slavery. Yes, we know Bachman doesn't know history nor does she care, but we in MN know what an evil hateful person she is too, and America is finding out more and more.

[Raschel]

21. Slaves raised in a two parent family? Sure, Big Daddy was in the mansion & mom was in a slave house.

That's some two parent family.

Of course as mentioned there were the children ripped from moms and dads, etc.

[Hugabear]

25. When I think of loving, healthy families, antebellum slavery always comes to mind

What better family environment could you possibly ask for?

:sarcasm:

[Raschel]

31. She called slave quarters a "home". They were raised in a two parent "home".

:wtf:

[Le Taz Hot]

28. You just can't make this shit up.

To all those alarmist DUers who keep saying, "President Bachmann!" Could we get a grip, please?

[kath]

32. Bat. Shit. Crazy.

[chill_wind]

34. The mind reels. Astonishingly stupid and poisonous statements.

Unreal! :-(