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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:58 AM
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The lack of empathy is the central reason for our predicament(s)

"Empathy", from Merriam Webster- The action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner; also : the capacity for this


When President Obama nominated Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court, we saw an attack by Republicans against the concept of empathy when he stated that it would be a desirable trait for a judge. Think of that - they openly admitted that what basically equals "walk a mile in my shoes", being able to relate to another's physical or emotional distress, had no place in the dialogue. That would amount to just another forehead-slapper for the repubs, but their sentiment runs deep in our culture and appears to have grown worse since, well, who would have guessed it - the Reagan years:

from the January 2011 Scientific American :

What, Me Care? Young Are Less Empathetic

Humans are unlikely to win the animal kingdom’s prize for fastest, strongest or largest, but we are world champions at understanding one another. This interpersonal prowess is fueled, at least in part, by empathy: our tendency to care about and share other people’s emotional experiences. Empathy is a cornerstone of human behavior and has long been considered innate. A forthcoming study, however, challenges this assumption by demonstrating that empathy levels have been declining over the past 30 years.

The research, led by Sara H. Konrath of the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor and published online in August in Personality and Social Psychology Review, found that college students’ self-reported empathy has declined since 1980, with an especially steep drop in the past 10 years. To make matters worse, during this same period students’ self-reported narcissism has reached new heights, according to research by Jean M. Twenge, a psychologist at San Diego State University.


Behind almost any issue you can name lies the simple fact that the perpetrators of bad behavior aren't concerned that the consequences of their actions cause very real harm to real people. And not only do they not care about those they have harmed, they display confusion or petulance when it is suggested that they should care.

I can think of numerous issues which ultimately are the result of unempathetic thinking:

1 - The protection of the rich against any and all attempts to get them involved with paying a fair share.
2 - The theft of trillions from the American people by Wall Street banksters and the refusal by our government to hold them responsible under the rule of law.
3 - The illegal conduct of a war that resulted in hundreds of thousands dead, a country destroyed, and a massive chunk of American taxpapyer money spent on military hardware and pallet-loads of disappearing cash. Again, all with the refusal by our government to hold those responsible under the rule of law.
4 - The conduct of illegal detainment and torture as a result of those wars and a broadly executed "War on Terror". See - 'refusal to hold accountable' above.
5 - The continued use of drone strikes when it has been shown, time and again, to result in the deaths of innocent civilians including women and children.
6 - The fight against environmental issues such as mountaintop removal coal mining, fracking for natural gas, and climate change and clean energy in general.
7 - The ongoing prejudice and bigotry against entire groups of people including, but not limited to: women, minorities, LGBT, Muslims, atheists and other non-Christians, and the poor.
8 - The attack by Republican leaders and many of their rightwing followers against public employees (educators in particular), unions, and the American worker.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:01 AM
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1. Rec'd. Though, the young are always going to be less empathetic
That goes with the territory. We could take advantage of having a lot of older people with the baby boomers getting old.



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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:11 AM
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5. The University of Michigan study seemed to point to a cultural reason
Konrath cites the increase in social isolation, which has coincided with the drop in empathy. In the past 30 years Americans have become more likely to live alone and less likely to join groups—ranging from PTAs to political parties to casual sports teams. Several studies hint that this type of isolation can take a toll on people’s attitudes toward others.


If there's any truth to that, than the trend of late for more people sharing a common living space may actually result in a reversal of the decline in empathy. Now if we could only get politicians, bankers, CEO's and lobbyists to dorm with the dispossessed of our society...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:14 AM
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8. I've actually posted several times on DU that families being forced to live together.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:18 AM
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10. I remember reading a book "a Nation of Strangers"
in the 80s or 90s. Which did make that point.

Though the internet seems to have some effect and we might be starting to be able to reverse that. We may not care about our immediate neighbors but are more likely to have some ties to people far away.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:30 AM
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16. I think that electronically mediated communication has a lot to do with it as well.
Cell phones and the Internet, in other words.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:12 AM
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6. Children are extremely empathetic. I'd say once the sex hormones start kicking in, we
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 09:21 AM by KittyWampus
tend to become self-interested and much more beholding to the zero sum fallacy.

A lot has to do with cultural conditioning.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:20 AM
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13. Yes. And our culture is especially atomizing
Individualism and all that. Other countries seem to feel more ties to their country. People will refer to "my" country, but here is seems people use "this" country.

Children unlearn a natural empathy! I agree about children. They are naturally empathetic.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:06 AM
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2. Hmm. I would call it sociopathy on the part of CEO's
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 09:08 AM by ananda
and elected officials.

On edit, I should include "compassionate conservative" judges as well.

It's as though "conservatives" are bratty selfish children acting out
as far as society will let them go, and nowadays that's a very extreme
behavior.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:07 AM
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3. It isn't a lack of empathy, It's a hostility towards empathy.
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 09:08 AM by lumberjack_jeff
Look at the economy. You work because someone - a consumer - has bought a widget and thus has hired you to make it. The businesses in between that transaction are only middlemen. That cycle has one clear starting point; "someone".

Without someone with a $100 bill in his hand willing to spend it on a widget, no hiring will occur, no matter how much cash the busineses have. The only real influence government has over kickstarting an economy is getting $100 bills into the hands of consumers.

Our open hostility towards empathy precludes government from doing that. We don't have policy, we have an attitude.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:09 AM
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4. they have no conscience = psychopaths
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 09:10 AM by ProfessionalLeftist
Maybe not all of them, but I'd bet a good number of them are. Slap their pea brains on an fMRI and let's see. That should be required testing for anyone running for public office anyway, along with other independent, public psychiatric eval. By public I mean the results are reported publicly - before they are allowed to run for office. I'd love to see Robert Hare (or someone he trained) eval every one. IMO - it ought to be the law.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:14 AM
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7. I just saw an admonition to "talk rationally" about chained CPI.
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 09:15 AM by woo me with science
Funny how we are never advised to think about the senior who will be shifting from chicken to bologna, or from bologna to oatmeal.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:20 AM
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12. I'd be happy to talk rationally about it but whoever suggested that wouldn't like it a bit.
Because the rational conversation would involve telling the smug fuck to off themselves for the betterment of humanity.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:47 AM
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18. The predictable shift is happening.
We are moving from "Obama won't cut benefits" to a defense of the policy.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:11 AM
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20. Yes, that is the usual process, isn't it?
1. Obama would NEVER do that!
2. I'm so glad Obama is going to do that, because it is the wisest decision anyone has ever made, and besides, he doesn't have a magic wand and you never really loved him anyway.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:26 AM
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14. I have to admit I'm not overly familiar with the concept
But it sounds like, in a nutshell: if Granny can get the minimal daily calorie content from a can and a half of catfood instead of day-old bread, her cost of living hasn't really increased.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:48 AM
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19. Yes, you've got it just about right.
It's grainy, but it has some nutrients.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:06 AM
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25. ya know, the odd thing about empathy is that
at it's best, it is applied to "those" who we may not really like very much.

Like those who think differently than us. We like to pat ourselves on the back and claim that the people we empathize with are more deserving/in need of our attention or thoughts than those we find it difficult to empathize with, but what do we accomplish with that?

If we can put ourselves in the place of those we see as our 'enemy' maybe we can actually respond to the issue in a way that actually helps the vulnerable in the long run?

I can't articulate this the way I wish, but the idea of posting about empathy and then condemning a suggestion that people "talk rationally" about something we feel strongly about seems almost laughable- if it weren't so sad.


:shrug:

oh well
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:16 AM
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9. That's what decades of "Compassionate Conservatism" does.
It kills.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:19 AM
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11. true, and getting truer

people over the years have learned to forget putting themselves in others' shoes

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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:29 AM
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15. Ask any teacher--there really is something to this.
Our current crop of students is just not very good at reading faces and tone of voice, which is making classroom discipline more difficult.

You can no longer assume that giving someone "the look" will get him to stop disrupting the class. "The look" means nothing to someone whose main means of communication is his cell phone. Same with sharpening your tone of voice: that means nothing to a person who is most attuned to U R HOTT C U LTR.

To make things worse, our current students tend to act like the teacher at the front of the room is someone on TV, not an actual living, breathing person who would like to be treated with at least a modicum of respect. Consequently, they engage in all kinds of casual rudeness, but their inability to read facial expressions and tone of voice means that you can't be subtle: you have to stop the class and deal with them. That works...until the next class.

Bear in mind that I am teaching college students. I can't imagine what my K12 colleagues are dealing with.
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fivepennies Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:36 AM
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17. People, in general
have been turned into gladiators scrabbling in the arena for the last scrap of green paper while the elites clap and cheer from the stands. Watching us fight each other is their entertainment. It is the dollar bill and its shrinking value that has ruined empathy. And in many cases, decency.

jmo
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:16 AM
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21. The difference between Dems & Rethugs...
comes down to two letters. The Democrats are empathetic, whereas the Republicans are just pathetic.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:41 AM
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22. lack of critical thinking
"The critical habit of thought, if usual in society, will pervade all its mores, because it is a way of taking up the problems of life. Men educated in it cannot be stampeded by stump orators ... They are slow to believe. They can hold things as possible or probable in all degrees, without certainty and without pain. They can wait for evidence and weigh evidence, uninfluenced by the emphasis or confidence with which assertions are made on one side or the other. They can resist appeals to their dearest prejudices and all kinds of cajolery. Education in the critical faculty is the only education of which it can be truly said that it makes good citizens."
~ William Graham Sumner, Folkways, 1906


desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.

~ Francis Bacon (1605)



http://www.criticalthinking.org/
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:54 AM
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23. if we are honest with ourselves, we need to apply this to
those we see as our 'enemies' as well.

How much 'empathy' is being shown Pres. Obama?

It's easy to get all caught up in our own personal concerns- and suffering. It's easy to say that only "we" are empathetic, and point to "them" as the problem.

But where is our empathy then? I confess my biggest distress at the hostility and division that sometimes flares here on DU is because I somehow think 'we' Democrats/Progressives/Liberals should be 'better' than that. But in the end, the reality is, we are all imperfect human beings, and our poop smells too.


fwiw.

:shrug:

I hope those who have read the OP also read the OP about "Sympathy for Obama", and most especially the replies.

eyeopening.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:54 AM
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24. K&R - Wish I could 10000 times
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iemitsu Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:25 AM
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26. capitalism and empathy don't work well together.
when one glorifies competition another's handicap is a blessing.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:12 PM
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27. I have mine. Fuck the rest of you. n/t
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ben_thayer Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:16 PM
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28. I still believe that
overpopulation is a huge factor.

:shrug:
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:16 AM
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29. A dearth of empathy and an excess of psychopathy.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:22 AM
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30. in other words, we are being ruled by sociopaths. nt
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