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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:04 AM
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Michele Bachmann's clinics try to "cure" homosexuality. I hate her more and more every day!!!
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 09:44 AM by backscatter712
http://www.thenation.com/article/161883/%E2%80%98god-has-created-you-heterosexuality%E2%80%99-clinics-owned-michele-bachmann%E2%80%99s-husband-practi

‘God Has Created You for Heterosexuality’: Clinics Owned by Michele Bachmann’s Husband Practice Ex-Gay Therapy

In the summer of 2004, Andrew Ramirez, who was just about to enter his senior year of high school, worked up the nerve to tell his family he was gay. His mother took the news in stride, but his stepfather, a conservative Christian, was outraged. “He said it was wrong, an abomination, that it was something he would not tolerate in his house,” Ramirez recalls. A few weeks later, his parents marched him into the office of Bachmann & Associates, a Christian counseling center in Lake Elmo, Minnesota, which is owned by Michele Bachmann’s husband, Marcus. From the outset, Ramirez says, his therapist—one of roughly twenty employed at the Lake Elmo clinic—made it clear that renouncing his sexual orientation was the only moral choice. “He basically said being gay was not an acceptable lifestyle in God’s eyes,” Ramirez recalls. According to Ramirez, his therapist then set about trying to “cure” him. Among other things, he urged Ramirez to pray and read the Bible, particularly verses that cast homosexuality as an abomination, and referred him to a local church for people who had given up the “gay lifestyle.” He even offered to set Ramirez up with an ex-lesbian mentor.

Ramirez was not impressed. After his second appointment, he resolved not to go back, despite the turmoil it might cause in his family. “I didn’t feel it was something that I wanted to change, and I didn’t think it could be changed,” he says. “I was OK with who I was.”

As Republican presidential contender Michele Bachmann has surged in the polls, the spotlight has turned on her husband and main political adviser, Marcus Bachmann, who has a PhD in clinical psychology and owns two Christian counseling centers in Minnesota. There has been a great deal of speculation that his clinics, which have received $161,000 in state and federal funding, try to cure homosexuality—and the chatter has only grown louder since his comments likening gays to “barbarians” who “need to be educated” and “disciplined” surfaced in the blogosphere last week. Marcus Bachmann has denied these allegations. “That’s a false statement,” he replied when the Minneapolis City Pages asked if his clinic tried to cure gays. And until now there was no firm evidence to back these allegations up. But information obtained by The Nation suggests that Bachmann & Associates therapists do, in fact, try to change sexual orientation. It also sheds new light on the Bachmanns’ embrace of the controversial ex-gay movement and related psychological approaches, which portray homosexuality as a disease to be rooted out.

Some of the most potent material was provided by Truth Wins Out, a gay-rights group that opposes the ex-gay movement. In late June, a Truth Wins Out activist named John Becker donned two hidden cameras—one embedded in a wristwatch—and attended five treatment sessions at Bachmann’s Lake Elmo clinic. Becker, who is openly gay, presented himself as a committed Christian who was struggling with homosexuality. The video he collected seems to confirm Ramirez’s allegations that staff members at Bachmann & Associates try to change sexual orientation. Becker’s therapist (another of Marcus Bachmann’s employees) repeatedly assured him that homosexuality could be overcome. “At the core value…in terms of how God created us, we’re all heterosexual,” he explained, according to the footage. “God has created you for heterosexuality.” The therapist also mined Becker’s personal history for traumatic experiences that might have turned him gay. To curb Becker’s gay impulses, the therapist urged him to pray and read Scripture and suggested Becker “develop” his masculinity. He also encouraged him to find a “heterosexual guy” to act as act as an AA-type sponsor. Later, he referred Becker to Outpost Ministries, a church that helps “the sexually and relationally broken”—in other words, homosexuals—“find healing and restoration through relationship with Jesus Christ.”


EDIT: Adding second article about undercover investigation of Bachmann's clinic:

http://www.truthwinsout.org/pressreleases/2011/07/17519/?print

I Received ‘Ex-Gay’ Therapy at Marcus Bachmann’s Clinic
Posted July 8th, 2011 by John M. Becker

TWO Exclusive Investigative Report by John M. Becker

The date was Thursday, June 30, 2011. I turned on the television and listened half-heartedly to the commercials as I busied about doing other things. All of a sudden I heard a voice saying, “Over the past few days, NBC News has learned how Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann and her family have benefited from the very government programs she denounces.”

At the mention of Bachmann’s name I stopped what I was doing and looked up. The speaker was the Rev. Al Sharpton, who was guest hosting The Ed Show. Rev. Sharpton continued talking about the counseling clinic run by Bachmann’s husband: “As the Minnesota Independent reports, the clinic has been previously accused of engaging in reparative therapy, or treatment aimed at changing one’s sexual orientation. Dr. Marcus Bachmann denies this…”

I chuckled when Rev. Sharpton said this. He won’t be able to deny it for much longer, I thought. After all, I was watching this broadcast from a basement in Eden Prairie, Minnesota, having spent the previous eight days undercover in the Twin Cities receiving reparative therapy sessions at Marcus Bachmann’s clinic.

The organization I work for, Truth Wins Out (TWO), fights anti-LGBT religious extremism and the “ex-gay” myth. We’d been receiving questions about the Bachmann clinic and reparative therapy for months, and they only grew more intense after the June 13 GOP presidential debate in New Hampshire. Like everyone else, we were aware of the rumors and that no one had yet been able to independently verify them. TWO Executive Director Wayne Besen decided that we were going to obtain that verification: I was to go undercover to Bachmann & Associates in Lake Elmo, MN posing as someone seeking counseling for homosexuality, schedule as many appointments as I could, and document what went on during my appointments with hidden cameras.


In other words, Michele Bachmann's vaunted clinics are QUACK clinics. They ignore everything that's been documented in psychological research about homosexuality; that it's biological in origin, and that attempting to change sexual orientation through psychotherapy is harmful, in favor of bigoted Bronze Age mythological nonsense.
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:13 AM
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1. And it's part of that faith based nonsense that Obama has been peddling.
He hangs around with the ex-gay types too much.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:21 AM
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2. At least we can work with Obama. Not always smoothly, but we can work with him.
Of course we don't see eye-to-eye on everything, but we can make progress with him - the repeal of DADT has been signed into law, it's only a matter of time before it goes away completely.

Michele Bachmann is just completely fucknuts crazy. She actually hears voices in her head and thinks Jesus talks to her. If you ask me, she should be institutionalized. Do you think she's going to even try to find common ground with the GLBT community and tolerate actual civil rights for them? No, she's going to fight tooth and nail, all the way to Uganda-style death-penalty-for-gays laws.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:27 AM
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3. I wonder if we can cure people of fundamentalist religion?
Maybe use cult deprogramming techniques?

I definitely think that religious extremism should be classified as a mental disorder...
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:37 AM
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4. MORE DIRT!!! Undercover activist attends "ex-gay" reparative therapy sessions at Bachmann clinic!
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 09:45 AM by backscatter712
http://www.truthwinsout.org/pressreleases/2011/07/17519/?print

I Received ‘Ex-Gay’ Therapy at Marcus Bachmann’s Clinic
Posted July 8th, 2011 by John M. Becker

TWO Exclusive Investigative Report by John M. Becker

The date was Thursday, June 30, 2011. I turned on the television and listened half-heartedly to the commercials as I busied about doing other things. All of a sudden I heard a voice saying, “Over the past few days, NBC News has learned how Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann and her family have benefited from the very government programs she denounces.”

At the mention of Bachmann’s name I stopped what I was doing and looked up. The speaker was the Rev. Al Sharpton, who was guest hosting The Ed Show. Rev. Sharpton continued talking about the counseling clinic run by Bachmann’s husband: “As the Minnesota Independent reports, the clinic has been previously accused of engaging in reparative therapy, or treatment aimed at changing one’s sexual orientation. Dr. Marcus Bachmann denies this…”

I chuckled when Rev. Sharpton said this. He won’t be able to deny it for much longer, I thought. After all, I was watching this broadcast from a basement in Eden Prairie, Minnesota, having spent the previous eight days undercover in the Twin Cities receiving reparative therapy sessions at Marcus Bachmann’s clinic.

The organization I work for, Truth Wins Out (TWO), fights anti-LGBT religious extremism and the “ex-gay” myth. We’d been receiving questions about the Bachmann clinic and reparative therapy for months, and they only grew more intense after the June 13 GOP presidential debate in New Hampshire. Like everyone else, we were aware of the rumors and that no one had yet been able to independently verify them. TWO Executive Director Wayne Besen decided that we were going to obtain that verification: I was to go undercover to Bachmann & Associates in Lake Elmo, MN posing as someone seeking counseling for homosexuality, schedule as many appointments as I could, and document what went on during my appointments with hidden cameras.


EDIT: I copied this into my OP.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:09 AM
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5. Shameless self-kick... I do think this story's gonna get legs. n/t
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 11:09 AM by backscatter712
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