Michael Moore's "There's Plenty of Money" Act of 2012 - - How do we get this passed?

[Taverner]

Well, its actually by David Swanson

But am I the only one who thinks we should take this bill SERIOUSLY and try to get it passed?

Of course, strip out the comedy, but keep the meaningful parts

If we had a government FOR the people, BY the people, this would already have been passed

For those who haven't read it:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/the-theres-plenty-of-money-act-of-2012

112th CONGRESS
1st Session
To highly resolve that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the United States of America.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
July 12, 2011
A BILL

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the Start Doing Our Damn Jobs Act of 2012.

SEC. 2. STOP KILLING PEOPLE

(a) The combined appropriations of the Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Veterans Affairs, and all military appropriations made through the Department of State, the Department of Energy, and all other military appropriations shall never be more than twice the funding, in absolute dollars, spent on its military in the previous year by the highest military-spending nation on earth other than the United States of America.

(b) The Department of Defense will be audited annually by the United States Congress.

(c) The Central Intelligence Agency will cease to exist. Its buildings will be sold at public auction.

(d) The National Security Agency will cease to exist. Its buildings will be sold at public auction.

(e) No dollars will be appropriated by the United States government for any secret budgets or any agencies engaged in any secret operations.

(f) No slush fund will exist which might permit a president to launch a war without Congressional declaration thereof.

(g) The U.S. military, within 90 days of passage of this bill, will cease all operations in and withdraw all personnel from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and every other area of earth outside the 50 states of these United States. This covers every human being in the direct or indirect employ of the United States of America in a military capacity of any sort, and includes every nation and territory in which U.S. personnel are located.

(h) The United States will not use the services of any other nation to imprison any human being. The right to habeas corpus and the rights enshrined in the United States Constitution will apply to every person our government has any contact with.

(i) Employees of the United States military will not be employed through any private contractor, but directly by the military.

(j) Violation of this Section shall be considered an impeachable offense. The House Committee on the Judiciary shall hold public hearings on the question of whether to ask the full House of Representatives to impeach any president, vice president, or other officer of the U.S. government who appears to have engaged in such a violation.

(k) Violation of this Section shall be punishable by the forfeiture of all worldly possessions and one month in jail.

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[MineralMan]

1. You can't get that passed.

You can't even get that introduced.

[Taverner]

2. Why not?

Last I heard we still had one friend in Congress, and he's in a lame duck session

[MineralMan]

3. Bernie Sanders would not touch that unconstitutional piece of

crap. Not a chance. Did you even read it in terms of the Constitution? Really?

[Taverner]

4. Look - like I said, strip out the comedy stuff

The "all worldly possessions and one month of jail" bit and the "write 500 times" bits, but keep the serious parts: the "eliminate the NSA, CIA, audit the DOD" parts

It was originally written as a joke

[badtoworse]

5. It still is a joke - nt

[Taverner]

6. So you think we should keep the wars without end, NSA, CIA, Black Budgets, etc...

Got it...

[MineralMan]

8. Your statement doesn't follow at all.

Tossing a worthless piece of fantasy does not mean agreement with those things.

[MineralMan]

7. It remains a joke. We don't need jokes. We need stuff that

makes sense. We need stuff that can be done in reality. Go find some stuff like that, OK? Michael Moore is a filmmaker. He's not competent to write legislation.

[Taverner]

9. What a sensible woodchuck you are!

Who's a good woodchuck?

[MineralMan]

10. I assume you mean to insult me. That's OK.

I don't mind such attempts at all. You have failed to do that, however. I want our military reduced by at least 75%. We can do that by ending these wars, either immediately or over time, and by closing all of our bases in foreign countries where we are not actively meeting some crucial defensive mission. How's that. Now, all we have to do is elect people who agree in numbers large enough to accomplish that. That's what I'm working on. What are you working on? What is Michael Moore working on?

You make incorrect assumptions, however. The Michael Moore thing you posted is a joke. It could never become law. If we want to get rid of the military, then we have to do it in a way that can work, not by making jokes about it.

As for the woodchuck thing, that is tired and irrelevant. Have a nice day.

[EFerrari]

11. Any legislation that starts off with "Stop Killing People" is fine by me.

lol

I was wondering this morning, do other cultures re-enact killing each other in their Civil Wars or is it just us? :)

[Overseas]

12. There is a lot in there I'd like to see passed too.

Deprivatizing US military is a big one.

Restoring habeas corpus is another.