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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:53 PM
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per murdochgate: video w/Nick Davis ... suggests was Cameron targeted in 2005
Nick Davis is the Guardian reporter who has covered this story for years. This video was posted on the Guardian website a couple of days ago. I missed it until today. Watched it... had to watch again - because the implications, if true, make Cameron's current role as PM ordering 2 independent inquiries into this scandal a little more interesting... esp given his hiring of Coulson as his communications director even after his office having been warned of problems (based on their investigation - I'll search up that link and post it below). This might have just gone from cover your butt action per PM Cameron to "this is personal." Or something else altogether (would love to read other folks reactions)

Link to the video with quick recaps up to the point of interest.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-nick-davies-rupert-murdoch-video

He first describes the key leads that got his/the Guardian's attention years ago. And the story that broke this week that got the implosion that follows.

After 1:30 minutes the general political reaction is focused upon. Followed by a detailed description of implications (such as - the organization that "self-polices" the press, the length and time of police massive mishandling of the case - until recently, etc.)

Buried in his description of the problem being not just reporters/press behaving badly - but the powerful colluding to keep things comfortable - is the shocking assertion - that comes at: 7:30 min. into the video.

Davis recounts a story covered in 2005 about George Osborn's involvement with a prostitute who took cocaine... Davis claims that at the same time the NoTW was looking into whether David Cameron ever used cocaine - but never concluded that he did. BUT... he (Davis) claims that he was told that Mulcaire (sp) hacked the phones of both Osborn and Cameron. Here is the thing - the police have warned Osborn that he had been targeted (presumably in the recent rounds of warning people who they have now found were targeted.) Davis - says he is waiting to learn if Cameron will also be warned that he too was targeted.

Sit on that for a second. If true could go a whole lot of different directions. Was he compromised by NoTW which explains Coulson's hire until it gets too hot? Or - as implied - did he have no idea (Davis reports that his sources found no indication and moved on) - and now learns that *he* was hacked and then took an inner circle member into his inner circle?

IMO, Either scenario could shape his role as the story unfolds. One might also have serious implications for his governance.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:00 PM
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1. The lies are slowly being exposed
This is going to be a massive scandal.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:02 PM
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2. kudos again to Snoutport for pulling our attention as the tipping point came and went.
This is far too sprawling (per how the revelations are pouring out) to be contained. Will be interesting to see what Rupert attempts to pull while in the UK.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:07 PM
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3. I'm sure he'll suggest the names of a few judges
to head the Inquiry - from the Power Elite :evilgrin:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:18 PM
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4. irony is: it was the ick factor that got the public attention and started the ball rolling
it was the power elite that led to the ineffectual reports that let the hacking, bribing and general powerplays of the murdoch media keeping gov officials cowering in the first place.

The story that is a small piece of the big puzzle and problem - is the same story that will keep the public hungry for each next reveal - that the Guardian will undoubtedly happily hand over. Keeping it in the lime-light - will keep it harder for the power elite to protect each other - lest they have to start protecting their own asses.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:30 PM
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6. The Independent has been right there also. nt
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 01:29 PM
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5. I found these 4 videos from RT, BBC, Channel 4 interview with
Hugh Grant about the hacking scandal. They were good. It is refreshing to watch news reporters reporting the news rather than trying to blame the victim.

http://www.maxkeiser.com/
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