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Sat Jul-09-11 07:43 PM
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What could Obama do to stimulate the economy |
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that wouldn't require Republican approval?
He was able to release some oil before, but obviously there's a limit to that. Is there more he can do with Treasuries? Anything else?
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Sat Jul-09-11 07:45 PM
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pnwmom
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Sat Jul-09-11 07:47 PM
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2. That would just make us hit a new debt ceiling even faster. |
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In previous wars, the Government always raised taxes AND debt ceilings. Bush never raised the taxes to pay for the wars we have; and he got the debt ceiling raised 7 times. That won't be possible for Obama, though.
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Sat Jul-09-11 07:49 PM
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3. Do you seriously believe people on DU want to |
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have a serious or constructive conversation filled with ideas and positive exchanges on what WE could do to help our country ?
Get over yourself !
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:05 PM
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10. Yeah, that would be insane, wouldn't it? |
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Griping gets so much more accomplished.
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Sat Jul-09-11 09:17 PM
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17. These last few days I'm beginning to wonder if we've been overrun by republicons |
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I mean every post that tries to even suggest the problems Obama faces is shot down by so many that I'm not even sure I want to continue reading this bullshit. DU is definitely needing to get a grip or there won't be anyone worth reading left. A little constructive criticism is one thing but this place has jumped the shark here lately. The fact of the matter is there isn't much he can do with out some support from us out here. He's not getting that support here thats for sure.
Go ahead and flame away I've got my asbestos undies on.
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Sat Jul-09-11 07:50 PM
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4. In one respect it's too late. He had to do it during his 1st two years. |
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Now the best he can do is prevent it from getting worse. One thing that might help, though, is to stop adopting the R's mentality. Reject deficit and debt reduction as something that will help the economy, because they won't, and at least publicly advocate increased spending. At the very least it will put him in a better negotiating position than giving up ahead of time, which is what he in fact has done. Simply put, go on the offensive instead of simply trying to mitigate the damage the Rs are causing.
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Sat Jul-09-11 07:58 PM
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6. When did this become a requirement .... |
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Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 07:59 PM by jaysunb
He had to do it during his 1st two years
I've lived through 13 Presidents so this is news to me. But then again,this is the first one to be polled daily or to have the next election season begin the after he was ELECTED, not even inaugurated.
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Sat Jul-09-11 09:43 PM
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19. I've lived through 12 and thats news to me too |
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Sun Jul-10-11 05:39 PM
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22. I guess you did not see the 2010 election results. nt |
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Sat Jul-09-11 07:55 PM
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stop the wars on the people of,
Libya Afghanistan Yemen Columbia Pakistan
etc
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:01 PM
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8. I agree he should do that. But I'm talking about ways he could stimulate |
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the economy. By law, he couldn't just take that money and put it into a jobs program, or build up our infrastructure, or whatever. And the Rethugs seem determined to stop him from doing anything to help the economy.
I'm just wondering if there are measures he could take on his own.
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Sat Jul-09-11 09:34 PM
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18. the servicemem would spend money in the US ... |
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paying state and local taxes buying local products
everybody wins
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Sat Jul-09-11 09:50 PM
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20. He needs to do what FDR did |
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A massive public works program to bring the infrastructure of this country into the 21st century.
Roads. Bridges. High Speed Rail. Broadband Internet. Green Energy. etc.
And if the Repukes want to bitch and whine about it, just remind them that plenty of private sector jobs come along with it, because the materials and equipment to do such projects have to be made somewhere, and it damn well better not be China.
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:01 PM
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7. He could push through lots of common sense bills if he "worked it" |
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Make work projects or low cost loans or even rebates earmarked so that they could only be used for mortgage, rent or home improvements would save people from losing homes and act as stimulants.
He could get them done by going directly to the people through strong advocacy as many presidents have done in the past. It is an effective way of pressuring the congress to follow the will of the people.
If he advocated as strongly for such things as strongly as he intends to campaign with his 2 billion dollar 2012 campaign, he could get it done.
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:03 PM
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9. I don't think so. No President has ever been up against the crazies |
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that we're up against now.
I never remember a party in the past that was willing to ruin the whole country in order to prevent any credit from going to the sitting President. But that's what Obama is facing.
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:20 PM
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11. But how many real crazies are there? |
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I suspect much fewer than it appears but their voices have been magnified by the media.
It is vital that our party and president show that they are small in number and non-representative of the country at large.
This can only be done by the POTUS. He needs to find his mojo or whatever...if, that is, he has the goals I am describing.
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:30 PM
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12. Agreed...mostly, but, |
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I've always thought he could get together w/ some of the super wealthy and create a government/private sector project like, coast to coast high speed rail system, and maybe the same w/ wind & solar energy.
These projects may not be shovel ready at announcement time, but the perception that money is getting ready to made will be too much for the fat cats that are holding on to it right now.
And as dumb as it may sound, I believe Obama could partner w/ some blue state governors and private sector groups to create make work jobs throughout the country. It would not only shame a lot of folks out into the open, but the response would be a lot like Roosevelt's WPA and other initiatives.
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Sun Jul-10-11 05:56 PM
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24. I know right? FDR only faced a coup and certain assassination while Obama is up against |
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astroturf with lipton tea bags hanging from revolutionary war period headgear. Those angry seniors are terrifying I tells ya.
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:52 PM
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13. kill the bush tax cuts. |
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rescind his agreement to extend them.
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:56 PM
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15. but wouldn't that take the Republicans? |
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:53 PM
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14. Nothing before January 2013, but... |
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If he were re-elected with a real democratic majority, then he could be the progressive he says he is. It seems the 2nd term is when Presidents make a real mark. If he doesn't, then possible we will get a real progressive Democrat in 2016 by then if America still stands, and we haven't had a "French Revolution" of our own (poor overturning the rich).
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Sat Jul-09-11 09:10 PM
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....large pentagon weapon systems and take the money allocated and hire ten of thousands of civilians to landscape the hundreds of military bases we have in the US....every base should be a beautiful garden showpiece....every base should be in the Guinness Book of World Records as a unique thing of military gardening beauty....
....the sooner we put money in peoples' pockets, the sooner this depression will end....
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Sun Jul-10-11 12:00 PM
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21. Like FDR, use the bully pulpit |
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Teach people about what we need to do, so they'll force their elected representatives to do it.
Like how the Lend-Lease Act was passed.
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Sun Jul-10-11 05:49 PM
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23. Put Repukes in a stoning pit and charge us five dollars a rock |
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That'd be $1,280 from me alone. }(
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