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discocrisco01 Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:36 PM
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Mad at Obama
The reality is that we need to accept that Obama is going to be the next leader of the Dems. There is nobody is who willing to do a primary challenge of Obama and so Obama goes on unopposed.

The reality is that Sciala and Kennedy could resign between in 2012-2016 and therefore, one of the supreme court seats goes to a liberal. And that is end of the Citizens United as we know it. A liberal court will wipe out Citizens United and return the court back to sanity.

Obama has selected judges that are constantly with the liberal left positions and therefore, I that is why I support him his reelection. I do not see a primary challenger that cannot him out and so my support needs to go Obama
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:39 PM
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1. You're right - I don't think anybody is willing to primary him. Even
some Republicans are sitting this one out because they think his reelection is a given (although they keep trying!)
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:44 PM
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2. Um...
too many factual errors here to refute them all. I'll pick one:

Obama appointed one moderate and a centrist Democratic partisan to SCOTUS, both Democrats but both judicially-conservative. Neither one is a liberal. Seeing as that's what he did with the best shots he'd going to get to change the court to be more liberal, I see no reason to think he won't go to the right of Sotomayor to replace both Scalia and Kennedy.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:49 PM
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3. NO. You mean neither one is "Progressive!" A centrist
democrat is fine with me simply b/c I know a progressive WILL NEVER GET ELECTED PRESIDENT!!!!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:52 PM
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4. That's what's missing in the SCOTUS scare meme.
Lagan & sotomayor are progressive.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:58 PM
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5. Do you mean K-a-g-a-n? Are you ever WRONG! Kagan is
nowhere near progressive. You need to read her profile.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:02 PM
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8. Name 1 big decision you disagree with her on.
Run along...
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:07 PM
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9. She hasn't made any "big decisions" Einstein. Thus far,
she has recused herself from most of the cases that have come before SCOTUS since she's been there!!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:08 PM
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10. It's OK to admit you don't know.
;)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:09 PM
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:16 PM
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12. lol
Name 1 minor decision you disagree with her on.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:01 PM
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6. Ummmm......
You might want to talk to Texas Dems about court appointments.

Seems he rejected their recommendations for judicial appointments and instead appointed those approved by the Pukes.

Based on his appointments to date I have little confidence that he is going to appoint progressives to the court.

That said, his appointments likely will be significantly better than Puke appointments.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:01 PM
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7. They won't resign, but Scalia and Kennedy are both 75
And will be 80 in 2016.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:26 PM
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14. And in 2016, hopefully Cuomo will run as President Obama finishes his second
and last term. I would like to see Cuomo run for President in 2016 because I know he'll be a formidable presidential candidate who can easily take on Jeb Bush and Chris Christie (and I believe those two will run in 2016).

We can't afford to put more CONservativeCorporatists on SCOTUS. It's imperitive we vote in Democratic presidents until SCOTUS is ripped out of Justice Roberts claws.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:50 PM
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16. Cuomo may be more of a corportist than Obama
Given Obama's recent appointments in Texas, I don't know if the "what about the Court" meme works any more & I sure wouldn't trust Cuomo to do any better.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:59 PM
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17. Are you joking? Have you looked at Cuomo's entire record?
Supports fracking, tax cuts for the wealthy, bashes the unions, etc...

When it comes to fiscal policy, he is to the right of Obama.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:18 PM
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13. Typical. Fuck 'em till they bleed, then offer up "but what about the Judges".....
:puke:
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:28 PM
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15. It's what the GOP, and their stupid sheep, completely understand
and that was why they NEEDED Duh-bya to win in 2000 - no matter what it took.

The SCOTUS is everything, as we've seen with their decision against class action law suits and Citizens United.
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The Hitman Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:06 PM
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18. Ginsburg
That is the real issue. Kennedy might be a "swing vote" (not really), but a GOP president in 2012 will likely replace Ruthie's seat.

Lets hope it doesnt come to that.
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