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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:14 AM
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Bernie Sanders: Senators Have Told Me If Obama Sends A ‘Piece Of Crap’ Debt Deal To Us, We’ll Defeat
REPORTER: In your view, if this debt limit deal includes any changes in Social Security, are you convinced that that will not be able to pass the Senate?

SANDERS: Again, it’s hard for us to talk about 99 other people. But I think there really is a disconnect, and I think Sheldon made this point when he was speaking, between what the White House is doing and rest of the Senate. What I can say is that I have heard, including from people that you might not expect to hear it from, that if they bring from the Senate a piece of crap which really comes down heavy on working families, and the elderly, and the sick, and the children, and they expect me to matter of factly vote for it, they have another thing coming. So I think the White House is for a serious surpise if they think everybody in the Democratic caucus is going to willy nilly follow the President and vote for anything he brings forth.

Listen to it:

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/07/08/263936/sanders-piece-crap-defeat/

Yay, Sen. Sanders! :applause:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:17 AM
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1. Proud to be first K&R!
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:18 AM
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2. what a freakin Socialist
hooray. expect some love ($) next go round. It's not going to go to the DLC
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:20 AM
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3. But the president has worked so hard!
With House Republicans. And Senate Republicans. And Wall Street. And Alan Simpson. Are Democrats going to shitcan the brilliant proposal that these geniuses bring out just because they don't understand the 12th level Vulcan chess that's going on here? Goddam pony lovers.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:16 PM
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4. LOL!!..n/t
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:25 PM
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5. I'd like to believe they're all telling you the truth about what they'd do, Bernie
Edited on Sun Jul-10-11 08:26 PM by kenny blankenship
But I bet a lot of them aren't.

Most likely there will be one chance to pass something Obama has negotiated and approved, take it or leave it. If it's a "piece of crap" and you leave it - uh ohs! Default time. Insufficient Funds! Obama in trouble. But Democrats maybe in trouble as well, especially if they voted No. Who wants that?

So, I would wager that some of those people up there who tell you they stand shoulder to shoulder with you in defense of "working families, and the elderly, and the sick, and the children" don't really mean it. Or they think they mean it, but when push comes to shove it will be just like HCR: Oh my God it's an epic piece of shit! and we better pass it, or else Obama goes down in flames and we go down with him!
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