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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:38 PM
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WPost: Gabrielle Giffords shooting in Tucson: Did it stem from state of political discourse?
No information had yet been released about the man implicated in the mass shooting that wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) before pundits and activists across the political spectrum identified the culprit: The sad state of political discourse in America.

Liberals were quick to blame the tea party movement and the sometimes-militant rhetoric employed by its standard-bearers. On Twitter, activists repeatedly referred to the remarks of Sharron Angle (R), the unsuccessful Senate candidate in Nevada, who last year advocated "second-amendment remedies" to some of the nation's problems. And they noted the map posted by former Alaska governor Sarah Palin (R), who depicted crosshairs over the states where she hoped to oust Democratic incumbents.

As details emerged about the alleged gunman and his erratic views, however, the tea party responded.

"If we ever needed an official political obituary to political civility in this country, we've seen it," said Judson Phillips, founder of Tea Party Nation. "The facts weren't even out there, Rep. Giffords had been carted away in a stretcher, we didn't even know her condition, but the war had already started. The folks on the hard left were already out there blaming the tea party."

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(Tea Partier) Trent Humphries was headed to the local Safeway for some milk when he was stopped by a police barricade. It wasn't until later that he would find out that a congresswoman with whom he had often clashed politically had been shot there, along with more than a dozen others. A neighbor was among the dead.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/08/AR2011010803652.html?hpid=topnews
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:43 PM
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1. "The folks on the hard left were already out there blaming the tea party." ...
Why do you suppose that is?

We lefties are not the ones advocating "second-amendment remedies" and walking around with loaded guns at public events.

We on the hard left tend to be pacifists by nature can you say that about the hard right?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:43 PM
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:45 PM
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3. Bye bye.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:46 PM
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5. That was a good first (and last) post.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:49 PM
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9. So glad you came here to discuss
and with an open mind
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:51 PM
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12. Stinking with the best of your ilk are ya.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:55 PM
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20. I wish I could be more polite about this, but
you are an ignorant, fucking moron. There is no way to sugar coat it, and no easy way to fix such a hopeless degree of stupid.
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coti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:56 PM
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21. Why don't you go back to blaming all your problems on someone who picks
heads of lettuce for three bucks an hour over at FR?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:45 PM
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4.  already out there blaming the tea party."... damn straight. cause we blame you for the hate, fear
bigotry that you have been promoting ot your people all this time. damn straight we are angry. dont even give a fuck what comes out. palin, coulter, limbaugh call for dem kills.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:48 PM
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:50 PM
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11. angry = crosshairs adn kill em, grab you guns, ... to you? YOU are the problem. YOU
are not standing up to your party that advocated death to dems.

disgusting

sick
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:51 PM
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13. Where do you come up with these numbers
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:48 PM
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6. "The hard left were blaming the Tea Party" ...
Hmmm ... who had rallies where people proudly displayed loaded guns? The TEA PARTY

Whose candidates talked about Second Amendment remedies? The TEA PARTY

Who carried flags from the American Revolution "Don't Tread on Me"? The TEA PARTY

Who supports Sarah Palin and her crosshairs? the TEA PARTY

Add to that the connections to the right of the killer of the Pittsburgh police and the man who killed "the liberals" in a church service ...

It wasn't that hard a stretch to look first in that direction.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:48 PM
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7. Yup, it's all the fault of the lefties
for pointing out that the far right has been promoting murder as a tactic for a good long time. If only we'd STFU, everything would be peachy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:50 PM
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:51 PM
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14. you are a sick person. are you leading a cheer from your site? nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:53 PM
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:54 PM
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18. it is a teabagger, following palins instructions and the rest of the parties hate. nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:55 PM
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19. little people like you so very afraid. all the time afraid. afraid of women, blacks, gays
soooooo afraid.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:53 PM
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16. You better stay in your basement pig!
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:53 PM
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15. The Sheriff is one of the few people with more information about this man right now.
And he certainly had a bone to pick with the Tea Party during the press conference. I'm betting the information he's collected so far is what drove his comments during that conference.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:57 PM
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22. Any reasons giving to why she was shot
Was it random or political, Im readinjg different things on different websites, its hard to sort out the truth.
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