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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:01 AM
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Bible's 'Obey' Edict Snarls Bachmann Presidency
http://www.newser.com/story/123087/bible-obey-edict-raises-issue-for-bachmann-presidency.html

Newser) – "The Lord says be submissive. Wives, you are to be submissive to your husbands," Michele Bachmann has said. So if Bachmann believes wives should always obey their husbands, who would be in charge if she becomes president? Bachmann? Or hubby Marcus? That's what the Daily Beast wants to know. "There’s nothing unusual about a conservative evangelical woman quoting the biblical admonition," writes Jill Lawrence. "But it delivers quite a jolt when that woman is trying to become the leader of the free world." Did "Nancy Reagan's astrologer dictate hubby's schedule?" asks Lawrence.

Just how far Bachmann is willing to go to obey her husband is pretty radical. Before she ran for the House, Marcus told her to get a tax law degree. "Tax law! I hate taxes—why should I go and do something like that?" she said to an audience. But "I was going to be faithful to what I felt God was calling me to do through my husband." A Democratic pollster calls the words a “code to Christian audiences” and “completely uncharted terrain” in a presidential campaign. Click here to learn more about the man who might be in charge of the Oval Office if Bachmann winds up in the White House—and here for another quote that has landed Bachmann in hot water.


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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:04 AM
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1. To the faithful...
Gawd will sort out such pesky details without anyone having to worry their pretty little head about it.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:08 AM
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2. And if anyones dares to ask her this during a debate,
it will be labeled as "sexist." :crazy:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:41 AM
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8. No.. it will be labeled "anti-Xian".....
I refuse to label that bastardized form of extremism as anything remotely similar to Christianity. They left the tenets and philosphy of Jesus out of it long ago.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:02 AM
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11. There is at the least a legitimate security issue
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 09:07 AM by starroute
The president alone takes an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Their spouse does not. The presidential spouse also does not have a security clearance or access to daily presidential briefings.

This suggests that if Bachmann was president and let her husband make decisions for her on official matters, she would have to choose between following the advice of someone who did not have full information or violating security policies to clue him in.

I think it would be a reasonable question to ask her which one she would choose to do -- and whether she believes she would be violating her oath of office in either case.


On edit: Actually, you wouldn't want to pose it as an either/or. You'd want to say something like, "Suppose the US was involved in a major international crisis and your husband expressed an opinion on how it should be handled. Would you obey him, even if you had sensitive classified information that made it clear his course of action would lead to disaster?"

Then step back and wait for her to say, "But that couldn't happen because Marcus would know everything I knew."

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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:11 AM
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3. Creepy
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:15 AM
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4. Does that mean if you vote for Michele, you're really electing Marcus?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:36 AM
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14. Yup
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 09:38 AM by SpiralHawk
It is as plain as day, though most Kristiuns skip right over the, um, 'fine print' in the Eleven CommandMints

Thou Shalt Not Be NonSubmissive If Thou Art A Female Spousal Unit.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:23 AM
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5. That is downright freaky...
What else is in the Bible that she would need to "obey"??
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:39 AM
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6. I realize no "sane" person would support Bachmann, to begin with...
But certainly DUers must remember the furor over Hillary Clinton assuming a lead role in Pres. Clinton's health care task force and the RW going nuts that "she was not elected nor confirmed (and thus had no legal right to be asserting herself in policy in this way). Yet here we would have Bachmann as the puppet of her chubby cheeked homophobe husband. While we all assume Bush* was the puppet of Cheney et al., at least some of these folks were elected/confirmed and within the Presidential cabinet hierarchy.

Surely this would have to give some pause to at least some of the less extreme RETHUGS....

:puke: This kind of attitude just makes me ill...Patriarchy enshrined by a "threatened" Christian hierarchy (see Vatican) and a tactic used to rid the world of strong matriarchal cultures and Paganist religions. (See "When God was a Woman" --Merlin Stone).
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:41 AM
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7. What barbarians!
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:43 AM
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9. Hee, I keep thinking this article is talking about Dave Obey. And I'm like, wait, WHAT? They worked
together in the House on an edict? What the?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:51 AM
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10. I'm pretty sure that Michele is the husband in that family.
I don't see Marcus ordering her around, really. It's still an excellent point to raise with Bachmann, though. It should produce some interesting quotes.
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:11 AM
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12. It's perfectly ok.
Especially if you're an "a la carte" Christianist who gets to ignore the parts that you don't agree with like treating others as you would be treat yourself and giving all your shit away to the poor and loving thy neighbor and all those other inconvenient aspects of following Christ.

It's hard to fit all the love your supposed to have into your heart if you've already filled it with hate.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:34 AM
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13. See Sarah Palin
Dude Todd was her over-seer while she was in office. Same beliefs.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 01:02 PM
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15. This guy sounds like Todd Palin squared
I'm guessing no one will be calling HIM the "First Dude"
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 01:31 PM
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17. Yep, Todd Palin, as far as we know, doesn't hate himself for something he is and can't change. -nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 01:04 PM
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16. So her God speaks through her husband?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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