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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:31 AM
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Nevada Skinheads on the Hunt for Native Americans.
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 08:33 AM by Cal33
Can you imagine, this is still happening in our country in this day an age!:

A group of skinheads stopped a Native American couple who were in their car,
forced them out, and beat them up with baseball bats. The wife was treated
in a hospital, but the husband was put into jail for days without treatment.

One of the young hooligans boasted that nothing would happen to them, because
his father was the county sheriff!

The above is just one example of something that occurs daily: bullying in
schools, teasing and hazing of people with physical and mental disabilities
... ad infinitum.

How come there is so much premeditated aggression in this country of ours?
There seems to be an over-abundance of sadists who simply enjoy making
other people suffer!

Is there something specific we are doing wrong as a nation?


http://rt.com/usa/news/nevada-bonta-family-lisa/

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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:40 AM
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1. This looks like a litmus test for us. Let's post til in hits MSM.
I for one have had enough of these Nazi wannabes getting away with crimes.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 05:37 PM
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11. Yes, let's keep on posting this.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:41 AM
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2. I can easily imagine that it is happening.
As for your final question, yes, we are doing something wrong as a nation. We're not tossing these racist bastards in prison for long prison terms. We're still tolerating racist, homophobic and ethnic-related violence in this country. We should not be doing that. We should be prosecuting such crimes vigorously in every jurisdiction in the US.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:05 AM
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6. Except that the slam ends up as networking for these assholes.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:09 AM
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7. So, what's your solution?
Several friends of mine gathered together as an impromptu softball team to provide something of a solution where I used to live when a group of teenaged skinheads beat up an old Jewish woman in a local park. I won't describe the details, but they stopped doing that stuff.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:10 AM
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18. I have no solution. I don't know if there is a solution...
baseball bats do work for a while, but that's not really a policy.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:19 AM
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19. You already mentioned the solution in your first response.
Lock the bastards up for a long time. They can network to their heart's content and it won't do them a damned bit of good if they're stuck in a prison for thirty years.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:14 AM
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8. I agree with you. I support the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). What they
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 09:15 AM by Cal33
do is take up cases of hate crimes, mainly of people who can't afford lawyers, and
sue the perpetrators for millions. Quite a few of the hate groups have already had
to close, because they had gone bankrupt.

But, as you say, we need laws with heavier penalties, such as, mandatory prison
sentences. Some states will never pass such laws. Perhaps some day it will become
a Federal law. (I think there might be such Federal laws already in existence. If
so, they are weak ones).
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:18 AM
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9. It's not just the violence itself...
that certainly should result in jail time but it is also the culture of hate and violence that is shown through words every day. Racist and hate speech are used every day on the airwaves. The Murdoch hate speech machine and all the hate mongers on radio spread this disease every single day in this country. We all have to work to make this unacceptable in public and on the public airwaves. When you hear hate speech, express the idea that it is not acceptable.

As long as we all stand silently and let it happen, it will continue to grow.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:28 AM
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10. Yes. We don't jail people for hate speech, but people can speak out
against hate and work to make such speech a cause for shunning and shame. Sadly, the very people who should be speaking out in that way are not speaking at all. Shame on them and the organizations they represent and belong to.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 06:09 PM
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12. I've just read that as far as racism goes, Nevada is the Mississippi of
the West. Jail time is hardly likely. Now, if it were made into
a Federal crime, things might be different.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:46 AM
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3. Wow. The sheriff should be jailed. nt
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:02 AM
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4. I hope the ACLU can help them n/t
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:02 AM
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5. kick
nt
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 06:50 PM
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13. this is a sick n/t
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 06:58 PM
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14. W set the tone & Cheney too, they're just following their leaders
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:48 PM
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15. Racism was high many years ago, then it came down, until, as you said,
W. and Cheney came along, and racial prejudice started going up again.
Today, the Neocons and Tea Partyers are the standard bearers. Whatever
the right-wingers do is wrong, dirty and harmful to others.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:45 PM
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23. yeah, & look at the 1970s-via old tv series, Three's Company, Bosom Buddies
Americans were more accepting of homosexuals, women's self-sovereignty, the earth we live on-until Reagan got in, then the U.S. seemed to backslide right over too much of that progress. Repeated again in the 1990s with Clinton & then W.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:54 PM
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16. for what its worth
This story was discussed elsewhere on DU in the last few days and apparently there were all sorts of witnesses who describe something totally different from what this one side of the story describes.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:31 PM
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17. Link? n/t
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:23 AM
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20. Also for what it's worth:
If there are any witnesses that will support this story, they sure won't be coming forward to testify against Boss Hogg's son lest they find themselves beaten and arrested for resisting arrest.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:35 PM
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22. I sometimes wonder if some of these law-enforcement officers
were on the wrong side, and should trade places with the inmates!
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:39 AM
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21. Someone should take them bowling
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