The President is about to speak...

[kentuck]

Anybody expect anything new?

[Erose999]

1. No, my expectations are pretty low.

[polmaven]

6. Surprise, surprise!

:wow:

[gkhouston]

2. No, but we'll know soon enough. n/t

[Renew Deal]

3. We have found evidence of alien life forms.

:wow:


:D

[Erose999]

16. Let me guess, little orange men? That smell like liquor and cigarettes, and cry a lot? Send them

back to their home planet! Do not want!

[Renew Deal]

49. lol

:rofl:

[Poll_Blind]

4. So I tuned into White House Live feed....will he be covered on there?

There's some roundtable discussion going on there, but I'm not sure what it's about- hate crimes maybe?

PB

[woo me with science]

13. C-SPAN plans to cut away when he arrives. Here is the link:

http://c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/

[catabryna]

17. Whitehouse.gov link...

Just the gaggle right now.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/president-obama-speaks-status-efforts-find-balanced-approach-deficit-reduction-0

[Poll_Blind]

33. Thanks!

PB

[still_one]

5. Will it be a press conference? /nt

[Yupster]

7. No, but he's done something quite masterful

Everyone knows everyone knows the entitlements have to be changed, but anyone who suggests a special change gets killed politically.

He's managed to get credit for having the guts to cut entitlements without proposing a specific change he wants to make.

That's pretty impressive.

[Erose999]

14. I'll be sure to give him kudos when my dad is eating catfood.

[Yupster]

23. There won't be any cuts to social security

He never intends to propose any.

But he's getting credit from the press people for having proposed some.

If he had proposed a plan don't you think the Republicans would have leaked it by now?

[MannyGoldstein]

8. Make no mistake: we all need to make sacrifices?

But we can all agree that Social Security benefits need to be cut.

[kentuck]

9. And..

"we need to work together"?

[LaurenG]

10. But we can all agree that SS benefits need to be cut or did you mean

don't need to be cut? Because I'm going to say that he wouldn't DARE say they need to be cut after the backlash from last week.

Edit: added the last sentence

[MannyGoldstein]

19. He'll keep pushing for cuts

It's his nature.

[LaurenG]

29. Well its sounds like you're right. Damn nt

[still_one]

15. No. We have paid into that system, it is OUR money. That Congress and others have stolen that

money for other purposes means they should pay it back

[kentuck]

18. They didn't steal it.

They borrowed it. Their problem is that they see difficulties in paying it back.

[obxhead]

21. Taking a loan with zero intent to repay is theft not borrowing. nt

[woo me with science]

22. The people need to apply some consequences for the default. nt

[MannyGoldstein]

20. I agree that it's our money

It was borrowed to cut taxes on the wealthiest.

[still_one]

37. ok /nt

[Eddie Haskell]

50. I agree.

They wouldn't think of not paying off what they borrowed from the rich, but the poor ...
I say every last representative that votes cuts should see prison time.

[DURHAM D]

30. From the beginning Obama let us know he wanted to make WAR

on Boomers, not Republicans.

Remember this from January of 2007?

"SHUSHING THE BABY BOOMERS"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/weekinreview/21broder.html

"The time has come, Senator Barack Obama says, for the baby boomers to get over themselves."

“I sometimes felt as if I were watching the psychodrama of the baby boom generation — a tale rooted in old grudges and revenge plots hatched on a handful of college campuses long ago — played out on the national stage.”

"The historian and Kennedy aide Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr. said Mr. Obama had to offer more than a repudiation of the previous generation’s actions. “It depends on what the policies are,” Mr. Schlesinger said. “The New Frontier was the development of the insights of the New Deal.”



He just doesn't give a shit about the middle class.

[KoKo]

75. He mentioned "Progressives taking hits" at least three times but nothing about the Tea Baggers...

I am sick and tired of his trashing his fellow Democrats and the Progressive Wing of the party. He is a Republican who is captured by Wall St. and Big Business. His performance today is absolute proof. He's lifted the veil and revealed what he's about. He doesn't even sound like the same person who ran for the President. He lectures and scolds. And he seems to be a know it all as he trashes both parties as not having HIS infinite wisdom about what America needs going forward. Power has gone to his head.

[DURHAM D]

77. He sounds exactly like the person who ran for President.

Did you read the 4 year old article?

[MineralMan]

11. I expect to hear the current state of things.

That's more than enough to expect from these remarks.

[Shagbark Hickory]

12. I used to drop everything and tune in for every word the man said.

Anybody else do the same?

[woo me with science]

24. Here we go....

[WinkyDink]

25. Wrong emphasis, wrong time.

[myrna minx]

26. "Fair and balanced".

:puke:

[JuniperLea]

48. Grab a foot ladder...

eom

[lib2DaBone]

66. K/R LOL.. thanks... I needed that...

.. and grab a pair of wading boots while you're at it... gonna get deep...

[woo me with science]

27. "Make the government 'leaner and meaner...'"

That was an interesting choice of words.

[WinkyDink]

28. Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look.

[woo me with science]

70. We will soon have many Shakespearean grandmas. nt

[woo me with science]

68. GHW Bush: "Compassionate conservatism." Obama: "Leaner, meaner government."

[woo me with science]

31. "Now is the time to pull off the band-aid. Eat our peas."

"I will not sign a 30, 60, or 90 day expansion."

"I'm prepared to take on significant heat from my party to get things done."

[woo me with science]

34. ...or our cat food. nt

[originalpckelly]

36. Yep.

[Liberalynn]

72. Cat food isn't that affordable now a days either.

Guess we will have to dig worms out of the ground.

[originalpckelly]

35. Beware those who "get things done"

If the means are unjust, so are the ends.

[woo me with science]

65. We've GOT to cut SS and Medicare, or we won't get anything done.

How right you are.

[obxhead]

32. Obama: "I'm prepared to take significant heat from my own party,

lets get it done"

That says quite a lot to me.

[WinkyDink]

39. BFD!! It isn't "my Party" he should speak about with braggadocio; he should care about PEOPLE.

[NorthCarolina]

43. Like...... Bye Bye Social Security and Medicare. Change you can BELIEVE in!

:cry: This country is doomed.

[obxhead]

46. I think the ship is sinking and Obama

is trying to plug the holes using nothing but a hatchet.

[woo me with science]

38. He believes John Boehner is sincere... nt

[originalpckelly]

40. And I've got some land to sell him.

[woo me with science]

41. The public doesn't pay attention.....They shouldn't.

We're the ones paid to pay attention to these things.

[originalpckelly]

42. Pay no attention to the man behind the podium.

[Liberalynn]

71. Yeah and we are too dimwitted to understand anything anyway

We should just let the benevolent President and his friend, the "good man" Mr. Boner do all the "thinking" for us.

[Name removed]

44. Deleted message

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[woo me with science]

45. The vast majority of Democrats would prefer not to have to do anything about entitlements....

If you look at the numbers, Medicare, in particular, will run out of money.

...It's not an option to sit by and do nothing.

"We're gonna have a sales job. This is not pleasant. It is hard to persuade people to do hard stuff that entails trimming benefits and increasing revenue."

[newspeak]

67. I am so tired of this shite!

we've had over ten years of the wealthiest in this country paying less money in years, while the disparity gap widens even further. I remember when Little Boot's sickeningly chuckled not once but many about hitting the trifecta. See now he could raid the SS box. Now Obama talks about how everyone needs to sacrifice-nothing about raising the cap on the wealthy, but "trimming benefits" to the most vulnerable.

The majority of the people in this country have been sacrificed to the global corporate market, and we are the ones who are paying. If he makes government more "lean and mean" like those repuke governors there will be even less jobs, especially decent jobs.

Capitol Hill is either delusional or they just don't care about americans and the infrastructure. I see most of them having the greed, power sickness, big time sociopaths.

[WinkyDink]

47. Stopped listening. This is the flag up the flag-pole, and the rich are saluting. EOS.

[JuniperLea]

51. That's pretty base...

And really wrong.

[WinkyDink]

53. What, pray, is in error? Please, enumerate. See, e.g., Post #54 below.

[JuniperLea]

57. I get it

You aren't interested in doing the right thing. You think the goverment should be run on purely Dem party lines... you don't get that there are more than one stripe of person in the world.

It must get lonely.

[Maven]

81. Yes, how sensible.

Good luck getting a Republican to be the "president of everyone." :eyes:

[Name removed]

55. Deleted message

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[Yupster]

52. He made one mistake

He said he'd rather be talking about new programs.

Republican congresscritters will read that as see, he's not reliable. As soon as this deal's done, he'll start raising spending again.

That's the one line they'll be talking about when they get together.

[Liberalynn]

73. Just One?

:spray: :rofl:

[woo me with science]

54. "It is hard to persuade people to do hard stuff that entails trimming benefits..."

"...That's what compromise entails."

[WinkyDink]

56. FGS. He mentioned "teachers losing jobs"!! HELLO, ARNE?!

[woo me with science]

58. Like the kid who shoots his parents and then pleads he is an orphan. nt

[woo me with science]

59. "John Boehner...is a good man who wants to do right by the country.

We assume the good intentions and patriotism of the other side."

[Enrique]

60. and a scratch golfer n/t

[Liberalynn]

61. He came right out and said "trim social security"

not "strengthening!" "TRIMMING "(yeah right more like slashing it with a machete)


So explain that one apologists: What's your argument and defense for him now, that your "its made up press crap" has been blown out of the water?

Was some evil unknown person, using an immitator's voice behind the curtain running talking over the real Obama's speach? Did they replace Obama with a Stepford Robot?" "Or he is just bluffing right?"

And he admitted he is not out to raise taxes on the rich. He's just going to be "closing loopholes." Yeah right he is not doing a damn thing to the rich.

He is nothing but a RAYGUN disciple.

PRIMARY HIM SOMEONE ANYONE PLEASE

[KoKo]

74. He called it a "Sacred Cow" of the Democrats...

He mentioned "Progressives" having to take hits at least three times, but never mentioned the Tea Party... Interesting that. Also kind of made fun of Sam Stein when he questioned him about exactly what cuts SS/Medicaid would have to take.

That Presser was a real eye-opener about where our President's vision of America is taking him. I'm glad I watched the whole thing. It was rough going though...

[Liberalynn]

76. I turned it off once he said he was "trimming SS."

I couldn't take any more of the manure that was being spread about "shared sacrafice."

[KoKo]

82. It wasn't his best moment if one is a Progressive and put self out there in Red States to vote for

him. He needs to do better than this Presser.. He needs to do better to get the votes he had in 2008.

Just MHO

[woo me with science]

62. Question re: sacrifices by the minorities, poor, the elderly.....

This recession has been hard on everybody, but obviously it's harder on folks who've got less, and, the thing that I am obsessed with...is all those families out there who are doing the right thing every single day...who are struggling to keep up and just feel they are falling behind no matter how hard they work (tells personal anecdote) and there are just hundreds of thousands of folks out there who really have seen just as tough an economy as we have seen in our lifetime.

We took very serious steps to ...stabilize the economy...

This unemployment rate has been really stubborn. There are a couple ways we can solve that

1. Make steps that people have money in their pockets
2. Make steps so businesses can invest
3. Work to make sure that training programs are out there for folks who have to shift from one job to another
4. Put forward proposals to make sure that unnecessary regulations are examined

So we've been looking aat the whole menu of steps that can be taken. We are now in a situation that, because the economy has moved slower than we wanted...taking an approach that costs trillions of dollars is not an option.

What we can do is solve this underlying debt and deficit program for a long time, so that ... we have solved this problem...and everybody feels the ground is stable under our feet...{then we can think about whether there are] strategies that will result in targeted job growth, ....like infrastructure projects.

I can imagine a very aggressive program like that. But we can't even have that conversation if people don't even feel like we have our fiscal house in order.

So let's get this problem off the table (the deficit), and then with some firm footing, we will then be in a position to make investments....

[woo me with science]

63. We can't think about infrastructure or targeted job programs until the deficit is addressed

and "everybody feels the ground is stable under our feet."

Everybody? Really? Not the people whose livelihoods will be slashed.

[Liberalynn]

64. So what a few old people and disabled people

can't afford food,medicine,housing, clothes etc RIGHT NOW. Its more important that we appease the wealthy so they can create mythical jobs sometime in the MYTHOLOGICAL future, and that we protect a future generation that may not even exist because we are messing up the planet with radiation leaks, wars etc. If the current old and the disabled DIE because they can't afford to do anything else in the meantime waiting for the wonderous Obama to pull a rabbit out of his arse so what? :sarcasm:


That plan you can keep Mr. President. I am keeping my SOUL thank you very much.

[newspeak]

69. and meanwhile, the MIC gets carte blanche

Goldstein is the enemy, we've always been at war with _________(fill in the blank).

[woo me with science]

79. +1 nt

[woo me with science]

78. Kick. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

80. How many ways can he say, "Suck it up"?