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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:56 PM
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What follows is SPECULATION... so please take it with the
necessary grain of salt.

Over the last eight days we have had two bombs in Maryland... one actually went off in the mail room. One bomb in the DC processing station, adressed to the DHS secretary, and of course today.

Now these are the facts.

What follows is speculation.

The elections in November did NOT go the way the extreme right wanted... no, they did not take both houses, and they will still have resistance from the Senate, and crazee liberal Communists policies, from their pov of course.

What we have seen, quite possibly, are cells activated to start operations inside the United States. Remember all those calls to overthrow the government, whether that is R. Lee Armey, Governor Perry, or Angle... that is exactly what had. So what we may be seeing is exactly that. No, R. Lee Armey is not organizing the revolt. Neither is Angle, but people took them seriously.

I expect the media to keep telling us that this will be a single shooter, or at most two crazee and unrelated ones. But truthfully a few folks in law enforcement are most likely looking at this aright now. Suffice it to say, the next few days will tell us a lot of where this is going. Suffice it to say that this was a shock to the system. And the question will be if we see a ratcheting down in the language from the usual quarters. If we don't... expect this to accelerate.

Suffice it to say that in the 1990s I did a lot of readying into the militia movement, for a novel... which came to a screeching halt the moment Columbine happened. This has all the indicators of that... but like McVeigh, I do not expect law enforcement to really go there... and partially it is hard to prove... see cell movement and cell activation. Partly there might be that fear of actually getting that fire across the plain that they cannot contain.

Anyhoo... this is just sheer speculation on my part. And the only facts we have is that the violence has ratcheted out. Those are the ONLY facts.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 10:57 PM
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1. The nuts are afoot.
Edited on Sat Jan-08-11 10:58 PM by Odin2005
Enacting their "2nd Amendment solutions".
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:01 PM
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2. Yeah but lone nuts are one thing
cells are a whole different matter.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:02 PM
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3. It's becoming more clear that Obama is going to be reelected.
Their worst nightmare.

I don't know what's going to happen, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried. Stay frosty Secret Service.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:19 PM
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13. I'd be very surprised if there was not an attempt made
to try and get to Obama, especially when he goes on the campaign trail. I don't say this hoping it will happen but everyday the right wingers get more and more extreme.
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Duwamish Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:55 PM
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18. That thought frightens me
If not him, one of his children or another member of the family or staff. Scary times.
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Saokymo Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:03 PM
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4. I don't think it's organized (yet)
But a lot of crazed individuals acting out all at once. That's not to say it can't or won't become an organized movement at some point in the future, if it isn't going that way already.

It's all fueled by the same thing -- the constant media message of hate, fear and violence. The kettle has finally reached its boiling point.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:06 PM
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7. That is the worry to me, that it is actually organized
and what we saw are at minimum two cells. One for the bombs, the other today.
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Saokymo Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:10 PM
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11. My worry isn't that the violence is organized at this point
--- but that it could become organized at the drop of a hat. There's a lot of very angry people out there looking to lash out at anyone they think is responsible for the mess we're all in.

Right now we're seeing the first fringes -- lone nuts acting on their own. It's the fools who become inspired by these murderous acts that we really have to watch out for.
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nenagh Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:07 PM
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9. I agree....and no MSM types will ever say..
that the 'constant media message of hate, fear and violence' buys votes and more votes for the Repubs.

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:04 PM
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5. The Secret Service are being kept very busy, and I would imagine
are doing a lot of hiring...Anyone?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:09 PM
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10. The SS does hiring all the time
So unless it really ratches up... I mean, their main job is NOT VIP protection actually, but currency protection.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:05 PM
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6. Your speculation is interesting, nad. I hadn't put the events together -- hmmm.
Bears consideration.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:07 PM
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8. It is the years of working in Emergency Services
of course it is pure speculation at this point, and should be taken in that light
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:43 PM
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15. Understood, but it should not be thoughtlessly ruled out, either. nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:14 PM
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12. It will be interesting to see how the RW talking heads will handle all of this ... if
they will tone it down or continue with their bigotry and hatred. They constantly feed the fires of bigotry and hatred in this country - they keep violence on the edge, eventually crap is going to happen. To me, the RW talking heads, and we know who they all are, are the real terrorists. IMO they do not have the right to pump their bigotry and hatred out on the air waves and cable 7x24. To me, free speech needs to come with some measure of responsibility for ones mouth and frankly the incitement of violence.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:24 PM
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14. This is why Monday will be critical
and let's see what the Speaker finally says tomorrow as he finds a camera. Yes I know he did the written statement, but should have found a camera TODAY.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:57 PM
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19. I was more than a little surprised he stayed in seclusion today. A real
leader would have been out in front of this immediately, denouncing the act.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:51 PM
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16. Facts? We don't need no stinking facts! Speculation is much more fun. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:54 PM
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17. So do tell me, since you are obviously laughing
you think law enforcement will NOT play with this and not look for any connections? Given all the events I pointed to are now under FEDERAL jurisdiction, you truly believe nobody in the FBI is having these thoughts?

You do know how cells work and why I am offering this as speculation? If not, I suggest you find out what cells are.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-11 11:59 PM
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20. I had a question along those lines..
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