FUCK the department of defense

[Taverner]

It's a waste of money

It gets people in other countries to hate us more

It is notorious for bloated budgets

There is no one who is trying to kill us

The DOD is a sacred cow that doesn't deserve its status as such

The Military is a welfare queen

Defense contractors are welfare queens

They all ride high on the hog while we suffer

Fuck it

Our military is a waste of everyone's time, money and attention

[CleanGreenFuture]

1. K & R.

[KamaAina]

2. There aren't enough condoms in the world.

Ewwwwww. :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Oceansaway]

3. k & r...nt

[polichick]

4. It's become another means to steal from voters for corporate welfare.

[pansypoo53219]

5. butbutbut

the JOBS!

[Ozymanithrax]

6. it is also the largest single employer in the United States.

providing jobs form several million people, both military and civilian.

[Taverner]

16. Too bad

If we're talking "shared sacrifices" then how about SHARING the sacrifices?

Besides, I doubt we'd have massive unemployment if we cut 25% of gross operating expenses

[Ozymanithrax]

17. PUtting another 25,000 or 30,000 won't hurt a bit.

And by the way, private companies that build weapons systems are not members of the DOD, and there are several million people working for them.

I agree that we need to change our priorities in this country. Republicans have acted stupidly in cutting tens of thousands of government employees in the states to save money. We should not advocate kicking more of them out of work because we don't like the DOD.

A massive change in foreign policy done quickly will devastate our economy which is already on very shaky ground. Someone should being a decade long policy to reduce the military and the DOD by at least half.

[21st Century FDR]

20. So let them build something that helps this country, rather than destroys it.

High speed rail and national broadband internet come to mind, in terms of bringing this country into the 21st century. And much needed repairs to the existing infrastructure for that matter.

How the fuck is a new bridge in California manufactured in communist China??? How is that NOT an outrage to Democrats and Republicans alike? A bridge, for fucks sake. It's bad enough that the crap that fills a shopping cart at WalMart is made there (and probably the cart too) but a goddamned bridge?

During WWII civilian industries shut down their product lines and converted to "war effort" manufacturing. It's now time to do exactly the opposite. Seize the assets of the criminal "defense" industry, and force them to work for something positive.

[Ozymanithrax]

21. You are talking about national priorities...

As long as empire is our national priority these companies will exist.

Bridges require a great deal of steel, and a lot of our steel making capacity is gone. China makes it cheap. Until our national policy changes from the pursuit of world power and money to the happiness of our citizens, this won't change.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

23. If the best defense you can concoct for an industry is ''it creates jobs''...

...then there's no defense.

[Hugabear]

26. Locking up casual pot smokers creates jobs in the prison industry

Guess that's a good thing eh?

[popsicle ricky]

27. saving jobs

Let's put those DOD people to work in Kucinich's 'Department of Peace'.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. But, it's aces at raising money and losing wars.

[RKP5637]

18. Yep, starts to sound gimmicky, doesn't it. Let's keep these wars going as

long as possible. Many are making big bucks off the MIC. Yep, war for corporate profit, that's what we've got.

[G_j]

8. & the nation's single largest consumer of oil nt

[obxhead]

9. Department of War.

They renamed it decades ago, but it's mission has never changed.

[LeftinOH]

10. But, but, but- we need lots of military bases in Europe to keep the Soviets in check, and

another base in Cuba to keep the island from turning communist. :sarcasm: Then there's Iraq.

[Erose999]

11. Rec'd.

[Scurrilous]

12. Strike Now!!1!

:o

[rdking647]

13. cut it 50%

thats 350B a year. over 10 years thats 3.5T in cuts.

But of course the rethugs wont have anything to do with that

[mopinko]

14. but who is going to fight the wars for the house of saud?

wish that were :sarcasm:

[Owl]

15. Exactly! K&R!

[sad sally]

19. Add to your list all the secret agencies that have been created to

spy on us, our friends and enemies around the world.

It's been reported (although it's a secret so maybe the numbers are larger) that there are over 1,200 government organizations and almost 2,000 private companies related to "homeland" security and intelligence programs in over 10,000 locations over the US. How many exist outside the US?

New buildings pop up like corn to house all this secret spy "stuff" It was reported on 60 minutes that a 90,000 square foot building in D.C. had been signed up for a 10 year lease but nobody had moved in, instead the spy agency built new digs closer to the Pentagon.

There is no oversight, questions, or examinations of taxpayer funds they get and what they do with the unknown mountains of cash.

We have no idea of what they do with the volumes of documents they collect on us and/or foreigners

Word is that over 850,000 people have top secret clearance to do and collect all this spy work. More people than live in Washington D.C.

Are we safer because of this? Is there redundancy? Is there anything that can slow this evil growth?

[Taverner]

22. Disband the Fatherland Security Gestapo...

And all of its bastard child agencies...

NSA, CIA, et all...ALL of them should be closed down.

[KamaAina]

24. With a pineapple.

Sideways.

[xiamiam]

25. + ten trillion

[tomp]

28. it's also misnamed, should be the department of offense. nt