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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:09 PM
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Republican wants 51st state from southern CA that excludes LA, Santa Barbara, Ventura
'South California' for 51st state?

Fed up with Sacramento, a Riverside County politician seeks to break 13 counties away to form a state called South California

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Supervisor Jeff Stone, a Republican pharmacist from Temecula, called California an "ungovernable'' financial catastrophe from which businesses are fleeing and where taxpayers are being crushed by the burden of caring for welfare recipients and illegal immigrants.

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Along with Riverside, the counties in Stone's South California would be Fresno, Imperial, Inyo, Kern, Kings, Madera, Mariposa, Mono, Orange, San Bernardino, San Diego and Tulare.

Combined, those counties are home to about 13 million people. Republicans account for the majority of registered voters in all of those counties except San Bernardino and Imperial.

Noticeably absent from Stone's vision of an independent South California is Los Angeles County, the state's largest by population and a Democratic stronghold. Ventura and Santa Barbara counties also failed to make the cut.

"Los Angeles is purposely excluded because they have the same liberal policies that Sacramento does. The last thing I want to do is create a state that's a carbon copy of what we have now,'' Stone said. "Los Angeles just enacted a ban on plastic grocery bags. That put three or four manufacturers out of business.''

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-south-california-20110711,0,2846870.story
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:13 PM
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1. Sounds more like East California
But I bet they won't want that name because it sounds too much like East LA and I bet they don't like East LA.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:13 PM
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2. I know the feeling - I'd love to live in a country without conservatives.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:14 PM
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3. Sorry . . . no room on the flag.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:15 PM
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4. Sure would take a redesign!
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:15 PM
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5. heh, heh, heh
so that means:

LA: Don't want no Hispanics in my new state!
Ventura: Don't want no hippies in my new state!
Santa Barbara: Don't want no progressive librul types in my new state!

Eat shit and die, Stone.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:17 PM
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6. Idiot. Conservative tax policies ruined California.
How fucking stupid does this guy have to be?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:24 PM
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8. Conservatives are unable to connect the dots - actually there was a study about this...
...how they fail reasoning sections on tests because they literally cannot put several steps together in thinking things through.
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dissidentboomer Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:17 PM
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7. Ah, yes, and Paris Hilton and her little rat dog
could be governor!
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TDale313 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:28 PM
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9. As a Bay Area gal...
Born and raised, I say fine, let 'em go. Especially if we get to keep LA. But fair warning: We're keeping the water. Enjoy your desert.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:32 PM
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10. They'd get the agricultural land
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:34 PM
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11. Good then give DC full voting rights
The two new states would equal things out when it comes to senators.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:35 PM
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12. Rotsa ruck.
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 12:35 PM by KamaAina
There is exactly ONE road, I-15 (or "the 15" :-) ), that connects the noerthern and southern halves of this "state".

Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties are part of the L.A. media market as well as having many commuters. Would "South California" continue to support Metrolink rail?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:35 PM
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13. Translation . He wants a republican paradise.
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 12:36 PM by nadinbrzezinski
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:39 PM
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14. Herd this shit up here, too.
Take Northern Wisconsin and Upper Michigan, merge them and cut them off from Southern Wisconsin (Madison and Milwaukee) and Lower Michigan.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:53 PM
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15. It will never happen. Upper Michigan has been trying for
years and years to separate from Lower Michigan, mostly because the tax monies sent to Lansing never comes back any higher than to Midland, Michigan. The upper part of lower and the peninsula are the poor sections of the state.
Upper Michigan has an even stronger case to separate than in California.
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:59 PM
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16. Even if they did seperate from CA, they wouldn't automatically be the 51st state.
They'd be a territory similar to Guam or Puerto Rico until congress admits them into the union as a state.
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