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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:13 PM
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Don't be surprised if we eventually find out ...
Murdock's hackers were assisted by the Bush administration.

I have no proof, I'm just saying. It would seem like something they would do together.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:21 PM
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1. And vice versa.
Without a doubt.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:26 PM
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3. It just seems hard to imagine that a paper the size of News of the World would have had
the resources to hack as many people they did. And does anybody believe they weren't pulling the same thing here.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:24 PM
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2. Of course he was in cahoots. Doesn't Murdock have something to do with Fox and other
American news media? I'm sure he's been involved with more than one of the Dem scandals.

However, now HE, Murdock, is the scandal. Good, I say! About time! His empire needs to land in the gutter.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:28 PM
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5. Murdoch and the Saudis (R) own Fox Propaganda (R)
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 02:57 PM by SpiralHawk
Why republicons, Freepers, and TeaBaggers choose to listen to Saudi owned propaganda is a great mystery.

Sort of like the mystery of how 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi, but then Commander AWOL Bush and Dickie 'Five-Military-Deferments' Cheney (R) kiss Saudi ass, get them special flying rights, and then tell a pack of whopping WMD lies to go invade Iran and its oil reserves while ASSUMING THE POSITION for their Saudi intimates.

What's up wit all da weird Republicon shit?

Caption: George AWOL Bush (R) show obescience with his sword toward his intimate Saudi cronies
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:41 PM
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11. Because Republicans have no country. They're sociopaths, authoritarians, they pretend patriotism
In reality, they are carcasses who carry around greed, pretend-religion, love to mete out hatred and punishment, and run their organizations like authoritarian hierarchies.

They have no country. They only pretend to have one, but the truth is they would sell it for the scrap heap for ten cents.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:27 PM
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4. I'm sure all that "warrantless wiretapping" was for a reason...and it clearly
wasn't to keep us safe.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:29 PM
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6. Murdock scratched their back many a time.
It's not hard to believe they didn't return the favor.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 03:22 PM
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14. Murdoch was a fairly strong supporter of Hilary Clinton in her 2006 election...
...so clearly SHE assisted with phone hacking as well, right?
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:38 PM
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7. Based on what logic?
The NOTW hacking had -nothing- to do with politics, British or American. It had to do with get juicy tidbits about salacious news stories. I fail to see any potential connection at all./
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:40 PM
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10. I'm betting you're wrong
Hacking Gordon Brown's infant's medical records was for what again?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:49 PM
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12. The wiretapping included politicians and the Royals.

Finally, what do we know the private investigators under contract to Murdoch's News of the World were actually doing? Among others, they wiretapped politicians and public figures, including members of the British Royal Family: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/glenn-mulcaire-in-his-own-words-private-detective-at-heart-of-phonetapping-scandal-2073177.html

(T)he findings of Mr Justice Gross, the judge who sentenced (NOTW investigator) Glenn Mulcaire at the Old Bailey in January 2007, who said that he was satisfied that Mulcaire has dealt with "others at News International" beyond Goodman when he listened to the voicemails of public figures including Max Clifford, the Lib Dem MP Simon Hughes and supermodel Elle Macpherson.

In a sample chapter titled "The Approach", Mulcaire recounts receiving the telephone call which instructed him to tap the phones of members of the Royal Family. He writes: "It was just one of those normal calls. I'd get around 10 or 20 each year. 'We've got information we want you to look at, get yourself here as soon as you can.' It was from the News of the World. Never the politest of people. But I was under contract so there was little choice to get over there..."

In the following chapter, "The Operation", Mulcaire adds: "I didn't want to do the assignment. Anything that involves the Royals or the Establishment has me twitchy straight away, but I was under contract and you just have to switch off about the specifics and be professional. That's what you have to be to be a good private investigator and I considered myself to be among the best."

Mulcaire's phone-tapping exploits began to unravel in November 2005 after the publication of a News of the World story, written by Goodman, which revealed that Prince William had "pulled a tendon in his knee" – something only a handful of people knew.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:01 AM
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18. Then you're really not looking very hard.
Neither Bush or Murdock were into politics for politics sake. It's all about making money and helping each other make money. One hand washes the other.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:38 PM
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8. To quote the Hangover: "Quid pro quo, douchebags."
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:39 PM
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9. Please ,please, please
Please!! :popcorn:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 02:50 PM
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13. Right.
I agree.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 03:24 PM
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15. if true, then prosecution is probably off the table
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 05:58 PM
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16. GOP/FOX are tight enough, alright
Without FOX, the GOP would lose what little credibility they currently have.

Therefore, FOX MUST DIE!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 06:00 PM
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17. I am convinced Murdoch helped Bush hack Kerry's commuinication
During that election, everything seemed too perfect...
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:01 PM
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19. The Patriot Act came in handy
no doubt.
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