Obama talks about the Democrats as if they're somebody else

[bananas]

He doesn't talk about the Democrats as if he's one of us.

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[DURHAM D]

2. He is not.

During the primary I told several people he was to the right of Richard Nixon. It made some mad and a few quit talking to me. They have all apologized.

[slay]

47. +1

he IS to the right of Nixon. fucking sad.

[Renew Deal]

3. He said "my own party"

So what are you talking about?

[Aerows]

10. Republicans, obviously

since he is on board with every Republican ideal. He's scared that somebody might suggest a tax cut on the 1% that own 35%, and that's unacceptable to President Obama. It's far better to yank the food out of the mouths of the 90%, since they don't matter.

[Qutzupalotl]

17. Except he proposed raising taxes on the rich.

But don't let that get in your way.

[Aerows]

24. How will deficits be lowered but by cuts

I want to see tax raising charged for hard, instead of cutting services to elderly people, who have been highlighted as on the chopping block.

All I see is "sacrifice" and "I'm not raising taxes on anyone".

How will any of that get paid for if not by cutting?

[Qutzupalotl]

32. You keep saying "I'm not raising taxes" but Obama begs to differ:

Obama: Raise taxes on the wealthy
resident Barack Obama coupled a call for $4 trillion in long-term deficit reductions with a blistering attack on Republican plans for taxes, Medicare and Medicaid on Wednesday, laying down markers for a roiling debate in Congress and the 2012 presidential campaign to come.

Obama's speech was salted with calls for bipartisanship, but it also bristled with attacks on Republicans. They want to "end Medicare as we know it," he said, and to extend tax cuts for the wealthy while demanding that seniors pay more for health care.

"That's not right, and it's not going to happen as long as I am president," he vowed. Medicare serves 47 million seniors and disabled people.
http://www.wtol.com/story/14997273/obama-addresses-the-nation


Obama: Cut Spending, Raise Taxes on the Wealthy
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/13/obama-cut-spending-raise-taxes-on-the-wealthy/

President Barack Obama called for cutting taxes on the middle class while raising taxes on the wealthy - whom he referred to as "jet owners" - as a means of raising revenue and paying down debt.
http://www.wbtv.com/story/14997273/obama-addresses-the-nation

Would you like to amend your statement?

[bobburgster]

48. I agree with you.

People tend to hear what validates their beliefs....myself included. I believe much of what is occurring now is political posturing, to a large degree, by both parties.

[indepat]

25. BHO said that but chose not to do so

;) :patriot:

[Qutzupalotl]

33. Bullshit.

[hfojvt]

39. Well that's a relief

I guess that means that last December was just a bad dream. http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/138

[cui bono]

50. When did he do it? He let the Bush tax cuts ride. n/t

[Qutzupalotl]

51. But was that his "choice" as the poster said?

Or did the Republicans threaten to cut off unemployment assistance for millions? I seem to recall the latter.

[cui bono]

54. It becomes his "choice" if he does NOTHING to fight for what he says he "believes". n/t

[Qutzupalotl]

56. Like this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4919035

[Vanje]

26. Lip service

I need to see some muscle behind it.

[Hydra]

29. He was also supportive of the Public option

Until he told us he NEVER supported the public option.

[bahrbearian]

11. He is playing one-up with Paul Ryan, so I'm assuming that he is one of them.

[Ragnarok]

4. I though I was being paranoid...

...to think that. My wife agrees. Primary him, there's still time since the Thugs can't seem to get anyone to run.

[NYC Liberal]

5. Is that so? Examples, please. nt

[scheming daemons]

6. Ah... the old "he is not one of us" canard.... worked so well for the RW..

...that those up to no good on LW sites are using it now.

[KittyWampus]

7. This is really just flame bait. Give us a few good examples. Otherwise this is just another thread

where DU can pile on and spout crap.

[Lisa D]

8. Exactly

Another post where Obama is portrayed as the "other". Gee, where have I heard that before? :freak:

[October]

35. Really. So tired of these thread baits.

In-fighting!

Accomplishes nothing and there seems to be a mighty effort to divide us here at DU

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[kentuck]

12. He is "post-partisan".

That is what it looks like.

[TheKentuckian]

14. Like Bob Dole sans pen in hand and a much nicer smile?

[QC]

23. But no erection. n/t

[Hawkowl]

18. Like the Poltiburo

You know, one party system.

[CoffeeCat]

13. He does not fight for us...

...he speaks about the people in his party--as children that he needs to tread lightly around
and please with the utmost of tender and delicate moves.

Maybe that's why he used the rhetoric, "Time for us to eat our peas".

Obama has done this before. Remember, during the healthcare legislation speeches? We were told that
we don't always get everything--as if Democrats were a bunch of spoiled brats in their fleece, footie
pajamas--pouting around the Christmas tree because we didn't get a Wii.

No, Mr. President--we just didn't like that the health-insurance industry WROTE the healthcare legislation
and that nothing but a few crumbs of reform were thrown into a ring that left big insurance and their
profit-centric model in place. Now that health-insurance costs are up 26 percent for most Americans
and health-insurance companies profits are skyrocketing--it's obvious we were not spoiled children. Just
Americans who are sick of the corporations screwing us over through corrupt politicians.

Don't mind us again--as you don't raise taxes on the millionaires and billionaires and instead cut
Social Security. We'll be "eating our peas" over at the card table--which is where you've relegated
your entire base to, while you dine at the big-people table with the lobbyists, neocons and Koch Brothers.

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[FiveGoodMen]

16. Bingo.

[tekisui]

19. They are someone else. He is a Demopublican.

[QC]

20. He's a grownup. We are petulant children who want ice cream but won't eat our vegetables.

It is only natural that he should look askance at us.

[girl gone mad]

21. Shut up, crawl under the bus and eat your catfood already.

Let the grownups do their big grownup stuff.

[QC]

22. Ya know, with a little ketchup it's not too bad.

[Bluebear]

28. Can we buy cat food with food stamps?

Or will another "Third Way/DLC" type post a poll here to ask if ketchup is a luxury that should not be allowed us poor folk?

[Art_from_Ark]

40. And Puss 'n Boots, Puss 'n Boots, Puss 'n Boots

is the best cat food, cat food
In the whole doggone world

http://wn.com/Puss_n_Boots_cat_food_commercial

[Bluebear]

42. yum!

[Art_from_Ark]

43. Puss 'n Boots will probably be a little pricey for me, though

That gourmet stuff can be a budget buster. I'll probably gravitate toward something cheaper, like Purina Cat Chow.

[QC]

44. A quality catfood like Puss 'n Boots will make your coat very shiny, though.

Maybe you should economize on the ketchup instead.

[Art_from_Ark]

53. At my age,

there's no longer much of a coat to worry about. However, the crunchy stuff can be hard on the teeth.

[yardwork]

31. That is the consistent tone, and it's not a winning one.

I'm old enough to remember when Jimmy Carter lost reelection by behaving in a somewhat similar fashion. Americans don't like being talked down to.

[Vanje]

27. Yes. He does.

and now, he is somebody else.

[AtomicKitten]

30. He acts like he's president but too often forgets he's also head of the Democratic Party.

I can understand how on the surface that frustrates and angers people.

I've been reading everything I can get my hands on regarding the current negotiations and have no clue what he's up to. I figure he's got some grand strategy that we're not privy to going on and I'm not subjecting myself to the E ticket ride of reacting to every bit of hysterical speculation that floats by.

If push comes to shove, I expect Congressional Dems to vote Hell No! on anything that doesn't preserve the social safety net including Medicaid, Social Security, and Medicare. If Democrats can hang together, that's the backstop. Easy peasy.

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[Bluebear]

37. 'pussies'??? Go away.

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[Honeycombe8]

41. Example, please. nt

[jtown1123]

45. Great Observation.

[Shagbark Hickory]

46. Now that he's been accepted at the cool kids' lunch table he's forgotten all about his old

nerdy friends.

[eilen]

49. I think he is the only man in the room.

Democrats and Republicans have exited the building.

[Vidar]

52. The Republicans appear to be a richer prom date than the one he came with.

[somone]

55. He didn't want to be embarrassed by the people who brung him