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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 06:51 PM
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Krugman- He's Just Not that Into You
Where by “he” I mean Obama, and by “you” I mean Democrats, and everything they stand for:

Obama Offered To Raise Medicare Eligibility Age As Part Of Grand Debt Deal

Terrible policy, disastrous politics. Perfect!

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/11/hes-just-not-that-into-you/

July 11, 2011, 7:12 PM
Obama and the Capital Flow Fallacy

Obama’s press conference wasn’t as bad as it could have been; he actually more or less said that stimulus should be sustained, except it isn’t politically possible. But he also invoked the confidence fairy – and introduced another fallacy, showing that he and his advisers still don’t get the essence of macroeconomics in a liquidity trap:

I do think that if the country as a whole sees Washington act responsibly, compromises being made, the deficit and debt being dealt with for 10, 15, 20 years, that that will help with businesses feeling more confident about aggressively investing in this country, foreign investors saying America has got its act together and are willing to invest. And so it can have a positive impact in overall growth and employment.

OK, so that’s the confidence fairy at the beginning. But the “foreign investors” thing is actually worse.

Think about it: U.S. interest rates are low; there’s no crowding out going on; we are NOT suffering from a shortage of saving.

So if foreign investors decide they love us, what does it do? It drives up the value of the dollar, which reduces exports, which leads to fewer jobs.

more
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/11/obama-and-the-capital-flow-fallacy/
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 06:54 PM
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1. K & R !!!
:kick:
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 06:55 PM
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2. his advisors are the best he could find? ORLY?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 06:57 PM
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3. I am both baffled and astonished by his dangerous tone deafness.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 06:59 PM
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4. Some Democrats are just not into him any more
That could change if he tried doing what Democrats have always, up till now, stood for.
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SolutionisSolidarity Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 07:23 PM
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8. It's getting awful late for that.
I hoped there would be some 2012 push for infrastructure spending, to give him a something to campaign on if nothing else. Unfortunately, he's putting all of his remaining political capital into cutting social security/medicare, and that is a big hint as to the kind of campaign he intends to run. Pity.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 07:13 PM
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5. That's okay, the feeling is becoming more and more mutual.
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 07:19 PM
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6. kick
We really need a primary challenger.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 07:23 PM
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7. Yeah well, there's more than one dog that left the ranch when the meals were sparse.
I'm not much into Obama either. Becoming too hungry.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:22 PM
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9. K & R nt
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:08 PM
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10. So, who benefits from an increase in the value of a dollar? Employers of foreign workers...
"... It drives up the value of the dollar, which reduces exports, which leads to fewer jobs. ..."

Think about it... if I'm exchanging $50 for a foreign currency, then the $50 will buy more {pesos/rupees/yen/etc.}... and if I'm paying someone 5K rupees a month to do software work... it takes less $USD to amount to 5K rupees.

Maybe Obama & his crew understand all too well the effects of foreign investment—and that sound bite was very purposefully included in the speech...

:+
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:15 PM
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11. I'm baffled too. It's terrible politics for a Democrat to offer up cuts in SS and Medicare.
Isn't that something that should come from Republicans?

And why on Earth are we talking about cuts? Shouldn't we be talking about creating jobs? Cuts don't create jobs.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 11:14 PM
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12. He's Just Not that Into You -- until he needs donations.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:02 AM
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13. It's becoming clearer by the day that Obama is the antithesis of everything Democrats have stood for
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