Really? We have a chance to try to do something about 30 and 50 year debt and

[RB TexLa]

people here are screaming "Jobs, jobs, jobs!! Fuck the future!! I want now!!"

[Drale]

1. "I want it now" is one of the reasons we are so fucked at this moment

American's no longer have the ability to take the long view of things and its kill us as a society. While jobs are important, the future is far more important.

[theophilus]

9. In the long run....we'll all be dead. Sooner if we don't have jobs. n/t

[gateley]

2. It's not that they're not concerned about the future, it's that they're

concerned about paying next month's rent.

A more pressing priority, and understandable.

[CoffeeCat]

3. I have no problem doing something about the debt...

...but for anyone to suggest that senior citizens, disabled people, the poor and
other vulnerable groups need to shoulder that responsibility--has an agenda.

Balance the budget. Be fiscally responsible. I've always been for that. But
please don't suggest that cutting assistance for senior citizens and the disabled
is a way to do that.

If any politician is serious about our debt, they would be slashing the billions of
waste at the NSA, the Pentagon and they would also end these endless, unnecessary
wars that waste trillions!! But no...they want grandpa and grandma to sacrifice
it all.

That's ridiculous, inhumane and incredibly nonsensical.

I haven't met ONE politician who really seems serious about debt reduction. They USE
the debt as a social-engineering device--to cut and destroy the programs and
policies that they've always wanted "drown in the bathtub".

[MadHound]

4. LOL! Yeah, let's toss the unemployed overboard,

We've moved on to other things, like cutting SS and Medicare.

Oh, and if you honestly think that anything done today, this year is going to effect our debt level thirty or fifty years from now, well, you obviously don't know your history.

Outside of something radical, like slashing defense in half, or raising tax rates back to Nixonian levels, nothing that is being "negotiated" at this time is going matter fuck all about the debt three decades from now.

Now it will effect people drastically in the short run, but not the debt. In fact what is going on now will determine people's level of pain for years to come, much like being unemployed does.

Just toss the unemployed and elderly overboard so this administration can pretend it is doing something about thirty year debt:eyes:

[Zenlitened]

5. Do you really believe that jobs now have no connection to future fiscal well-being?

[Skittles]

6. it's the latest meme from the completely delusional, Zenlitened

GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!!

[Zenlitened]

14. Well, we can't give ponies to poor people. They'd just eat them!

:crazy: :silly: :crazy: :silly: :crazy:

[awoke_in_2003]

20. mmmmm...

barbecued pony.

[Skittles]

21. SCHEDULING Zenlitened AND awoke_in_2003 FOR ASS KICKINGS

*EGREGIOUS* :rofl:

[awoke_in_2003]

22. I like it...

when you talk dirty :rofl:

[Union Scribe]

7. Yeah, what's survival anyway?

The unemployed, poor and old should really stop being so damn selfish and die for the good of our politicians.

[JVS]

8. worst. post. ever.

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[dameocrat67]

11. austerity in britain has shrunk the economy reduced revenues

and raised their debt. It is the same story wherever austerity has been tried.

[JVS]

12. I don't cut holes in the social safety net with you!

[jimmyflint]

15. + 100000 n/t

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[TheKentuckian]

16. So you wish to shrink revenues and the economy further and expect to pay a debt

and sustain a people on what, magic?

There is no perpetual motion engine, not even for economies.

You can't cut gas money out and expect the work revenue to keep up.

[Fuddnik]

18. Not magic. Miracles!

[Bluenorthwest]

17. See, with income, one can think about 30 years out

No income, you think 30 days out. That is also the future. This is probably the stupidest, most cold hearted mean for the sake of spite sort of thinking I have ever seen on DU.

[lumberjack_jeff]

19. What will the debt be if we put another 20% of the population out of work?

Fix the present-day economy, and (if taxes are levied appropriately) the debt will take care of itself.

Ignore employment and keep taxes low and the debt will grow, no matter what else you do.