So, if Murdoch and his minions were blackmailing pols in Britain and

[Skidmore]

bribing all sorts of public servants, would an investigation here lead to uncovering something we always said here? That the Democratic congress during the Bush years voted the way they did because someone had something on them? Murdoch's operation here has been an arm of the Republican party and was given full rein during the Bush years. Where was the Rove machine in relation to Murdoch's operation?

We used to comment daily here that the voting behavior of the Dems during those years could not be explained in any reasonable terms other than blackmail.

[valerief]

1. I always figured it was a literal gun to their heads, but it could have just been blackmail, too. nt

[October]

2. I used to 'joke' that Dems shouldn't go to Camp David with GWB

because I thought they were drugged and photographed while there.



*edited to add "with GWB"

[Lars39]

7. I always thought it happened at the "ranch".

[October]

16. I think you're right -- that's what I used to say, not Camp David lol! Forgot!!!

[liberal N proud]

3. Always suspected something

[leveymg]

4. Many of them didn't need to be blackmailed to end up acting as they did

Most aren't nearly as liberal as their communications directed to the progressive base of the party would suggest. Follow the money, and you will find that most of the beknighted Democratic "liberals" actually depend upon defense contractors and oil companies for their daily bread.

But, that doesn't mean that they aren't under covertly surveillance, anyway.

[blm]

15. Many Dems relied on Bill Clinton for his insights on world affairs. Sad, since he's been

in bed with BushInc for a few decades at this point.

Could have started with blackmail....or forced cooperation...but, it's apparent he's become a true believer in Poppy Bush's NWO.

[spanone]

5. curious minds want to know......recommended

[Sarah Ibarruri]

6. FOX News, Wall Street Journal, and what else is owned by Murdoch? nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

9. New York Post, Barron's, Marketwatch, Dow Jones Newswires,

HarperCollins, etc. etc. etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corporation#Newspapers

[Sarah Ibarruri]

10. His empire needs to die before he does. nt

[mopinko]

8. i am sure. i talked to a congressional staffer once

during the bush years and asked him why the dems were so meek. he said they were afraid. of what? of the media.
it didn't make sense then why they would be afraid of a little bad press, but now i get it.

[Aerows]

11. I would be surprised if they weren't doing it everywhere

An ex-NoW journalist said his job was to destroy people's lives. That's what they do. They tried to hound Gordon Brown out of office.

The thing is, I'm thinking this is going to be way too big for them to cover up. Once you start attacking the Queen and the Prime Minister, things get ugly. It's going to come out, I would bet, that they have been doing all kinds of illegal things around the world.

I don't see how Murdoch can survive this one.

[MessiahRp]

12. Here's the next logical step I think we may find out...

The key to where this investigation goes in the US is whether or not the DOJ has the stomach to go full force into it. We can see that the British legal system still somewhat works in prosecuting this but in the US, we seem too spineless to hold the mega rich accountable for ANYTHING.

Personally I wonder the most about this... It seems a LOT of people knew Murdoch and his media were hacking phones and blackmailing politicians in the UK. What's to say that with Bush and Cheney illegally wiretapping not a few potential terror suspects but EVERY AMERICAN, didn't give their allies at FOX direct access to transcripts or recordings of specific politicians or political groups' conversations. We already know that they were abusing these wiretaps to go after political enemies, this would only make the process easier.

And FOX has almost always been first to break a story that tears down Democratic politicians or liberal interest groups. There's enough smoke there to wonder if there is fire.

Now with the DOJ's penchant for protecting monied interests and the Administrations unwillingness to go after the previous Administrations' misdeeds, even if this were the case, I'd expect a full cover up and for us to never hear a word of it.

However my personal inclination is to believe there's a lot of potential there that this may have been a possibility.

Rp

[gkhouston]

13. Probably not. The current DOJ doesn't seem very interested in

going after anyone except whistle-blowers and marijuana dispensaries.

[Enrique]

14. much less plausible theory now

now that Bush and Rove are gone, and the dems are even LESS likely to oppose Bush policies like the Patriot Act, the wars, the assassination policies, detention policies, the tax cuts, the education policies, etc.