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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:45 AM
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So, they've finally just came out with it
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 12:13 PM by CatWoman
ACCORDING TO BIG ED: McConnell says it's never going to happen -- Republicans can't make a deal with Obama because Obama just isn't qualified to be dealt with.

About time they dropped the "pretenses" and just came out with it.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:50 AM
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1. Please. A link or something...
When did he say this? Where?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:50 AM
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3. it was reported by Big Ed a couple minutes ago
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 11:53 AM by CatWoman
I'm listening to his radio show.

on edit -- from the link below:

WASHINGTON—A "real solution" to U.S. fiscal problems isn't possible as long as President Barack Obama remains in office, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday, heightening the rhetoric surrounding the debt-ceiling debate.

Mr. McConnell, the Senate's top Republican, and House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), both blamed President Obama for the stalemate in the debt-ceiling and deficit-reduction talks, and urged the White House to break the impasse. Negotiations were to resume for a third-straight day Tuesday afternoon.

Mr. McConnell said he had gone into negotiations in good faith over how to formulate a deficit-reduction package to accompany an increase in the statutory borrowing limit. The Treasury has said the limit must be raised by Aug. 2 to avoid the potential of a U.S. default on its debts, while Mr. Obama has said he wants a deal by July 22.

Messrs. McConnell and Boehner said it was the White House's responsibility to ensure policy makers are able to raise the deadline. "This debt-limit increase is his problem," Mr. Boehner said. "The President talks a good game, but when it comes time to actually putting these issues on the table, making decisions, they can't quite pull the trigger," Mr. Boehner said.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:52 AM
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5. Its all about the color of our Presidents skin and nothing else
they're a bunch of racist bastards, all of them.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:53 AM
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6. here...McConnell accuses Obama of ‘smoke and mirrors’ in debt talks
A leading Republican involved in the increasingly contentious debt-limit negotiations accused the White House Tuesday of “smoke and mirrors,” as the deadline to increase borrowing loomed and Republicans and Democrats seemed farther apart than ever.

GOP leaders are flatly rejecting President Obama’s call to raise taxes on the wealthy as part of a bipartisan agreement to restrain the nation’s mounting debt.


Obama, for his part, has warned that he is looking for a significant slashing of the debt, and sacrifices from across the economic spectrum, rather than a more incremental approach.

“In my view the president has presented us with three choices: smoke and mirrors, tax hikes, or default. Republicans choose none of the above,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said in remarks on the Senate floor Tuesday morning. McConnell said he was he was “proud of the fact that Republicans refused to play along.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/debt-talks-show-growing-gap-between-white-house-gop/2011/07/12/gIQAbKuiAI_story.html?hpid=z1
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:01 PM
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11. McConnell: No real deficit deal until Obama is gone
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:50 AM
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2. What???? link please! nt
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:52 AM
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4. ......
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:54 AM
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8. Ah. Well, that isn't exactly what you said in your OP, now, is it?
He didn't actually say what you said he said. That's an interpretation. OK, I've got the story now, so I can see what actually happened. Thanks for posting the link.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:05 PM
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14. In my OP, I said what Ed said
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:12 PM
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16. That's not how it read. In fact, you didn't attribute it at all,
which is why I asked for a link, you see.

So, Ed was commenting, not quoting. How would I know that, catwoman?

That's why attribution is so important.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:14 PM
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17. happy now?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:21 PM
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19. Yes, thanks.
As it is now, I understand. As it was before, it was incorrect and useless. Attribution. Thanks.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:53 AM
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7. he'll get away with saying that shit
when it's the fucking republicans who have SCREWED this country for decades.

heaven help me i hate them.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:55 AM
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9. Is Mr. Mitch a good man who loves America? n/t
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:56 AM
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10. They should put a bill on the table that has only budget cuts for the rich and
eliminates the tax breaks for corporations and the Bush tax cuts. Then they should stop talking to them. Take it or leave it. If you're going to play chicken then play to win because if a default's coming nobody will win.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:02 PM
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12. Who on our side is in there with Obama, or is he going it alone?
I hear about Cantor, Boehner and McConnell - who is representing us in this discussion?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:08 PM
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15. Who is representing us?
So far as I can tell, nobody. Not even Obama.

Putting SS and Medicare on the table is a deal breaker.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:20 PM
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18. Sorry - I meant who from the Democratic side of the house is at the table?
Surely he isn't going this alone.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:24 PM
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20. The 2 top leaders on each side
in each house. In otehr words McConnell/Kyle + Boehner/Cantor for the Rs and Reid/Durbin + Pelosi/Hoyer for the Ds.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:47 PM
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22. Ah - thanks
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:04 PM
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13. Go to your workbook, study guide for "Republicans" and redo chapter 1.
There are three rules in dealing with republicans:

Never trust them.

They don't love you.

Never trust them.

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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:25 PM
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21. I wish the house Dems and senate dems would get together and agree on a plan
Even if it was just a straight vote to increase the ceiling (which would be best). Have the Senate pass it, have the house dems say "we have x number of votes, we need Y republicans to step up and be responsible. The rest can cry in their beer." Put it all on their heads.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:56 PM
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23. DOES EVERYBODY FUCKING UNDERSTAND NOW???
Sorry for FUCKING yelling.

Obama has known from the git-go that the teabag contingent of the repuke party are off their fucking rocker and RACIST to the core.
They are so BATSHIT that almost literally *EVERYTHING* Obama says must BY DEFINITION be refuted and shot down as SOCIALISTIC or COMMUNISTIC or >INSERT BULLSHIT REASON HERE< simply because that FUCKING ****** IN THE WHITE HOUSE SAID IT oh and he's born in kenya. He can (and IS) adopting NEAR-WHOLESALE REPUKE POSITIONS on issues, and what happens?? well, as Bitch McConnell just said OUT LOUD: "we ain't dealin' with that boy" (paraphrase)

This gives Obama massive, amazing political capital, PROVIDED that the majority of voters are in fact NOT as batshit crazy as the teabags.

Paleocons like boner, etc, are now having to argue against their own historical positions simply because the Palin wing demands that Obama be defied ALL the time, on "principle".

They are like the repuke's own little political suicide bombers, and they're strapped to the entire party.
Lawrence O'Donnell alluded to this in his segment last nite, but only in relation to the debt ceiling issue. I think Obama is using it to destroy the entire republican party for a generation. Let's see what the end of his 2nd term looks like.
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