Group "No Labels" running ad criticizing Obama for SS cut backs...and raising taxes...

[KoKo]

Just saw it on CNBC and it's going after Obama about SS and Raising Taxes. It's one of those tear jerker ads designed to get at people.

Isn't "No Labels" that Will Marshall Group tied to Petersen or some other goup?

Why did Obama bring up SS/Medicare cuts....? It opened the door for these people to use their money to do this kind of thing.

I went to the website to see if I could find ad but nothing was there and I didn't have the time to dig..but maybe other DU'ers can remember the "No Labels" ties to the "usual suspects."

This ad could hurt Obama... He shouldn't have put SS/Medicare in the Debt Ceiling Debate. :-(


It has a female voice over showing her ailing mom who had her SS cut back. You'd need to see the ad to see why I'm alarmed. Hope someone can find the thing.

[Ozymanithrax]

1. Putting SS and Medicare into the debate hurt Obama.

These people are just taking advantage of his failure to protect seniors, the disabled, children, and the poor.

[Long Shadow]

2. "He shouldn't have put SS/Medicare in the Debt Ceiling Debate."

He didn't, it was already there when he arrived.

[KoKo]

4. SS/Medicare has nothing to do with "raising the Debt Ceiling."

Obviously you aren't informed of the difference. Obama even mentioned that the two are not connected in yesterdays Presser. I have the transcript from the Press Conference where he says they aren't related if you want the quotes.

[PoliticAverse]

3. Funny, cause they were praising AARP for their "openness to changes to Social Security"...

http://nolabels.org/blog/release-banner-week-bipartisanship-washington/

“AARP’s openness to changes to Social Security and the bipartisan vote to repeal the ethanol tax credit could be game changers.
It's exactly the type of leadership we need from both sides and has huge implications on the broader deficit negotiations."

[KoKo]

5. But that is exactly how they work. Find a vulnerability that Obama or Dems walk into

and then ZAP .... Most folks seeing the ad won't know their first position or know where to look to find it. It's how they work against Dems and if our Dems don't know by now...then there's something very wrong.

[Lisa D]

6. They don't have to find a vulnerability

They just make shit up and that isn't Obama's fault. Yet, he's the one you blame.

[KoKo]

9. I'm telling you this was the ad..and this isn't personal about Obama it's what he said in his Press

Conference, yesterday. He said that Sacred Cows on Left and Right would have to go...and it wouldn't be popular and then he said that it was time to make SS & Medicare/Medicare solvent and that while they had nothing to do with the Deficit Ceiling, that he felt it needed to be in the bill to do it all now.

I do have the quotes from the Transcript of his presser..

[Lisa D]

19. Here's the thing

No matter what Obama/Dems say, the republicans aren't going to play nice. They're going to twist the words and, like I said before, make shit up. So Dems shouldn't have to tiptoe around the type of language they use EVER--especially for fear of upsetting repubs or giving them fodder for TV ads. The R's don't need fodder because they Make Shit Up.

[mmonk]

7. No labels is a DLC stalking horse.

[KoKo]

8. I thought it might be ...Will Marshall? But, why do they want Obama to go down?

DLC decides they don't like Obama? Is Hillary planning on running? Or who do they want to replace Obama?

[mmonk]

13. No tax increases are the holy elixir in the lies of righwing ideology.

The "No Labels" name is to pretend their ideology isn't ideology but unquestioned fact.

[librechik]

10. yes, they are blue dog crap

[Raine]

11. I would've thought that SS/Medicare being on the table would make them happy

strange. :wtf:

[AtomicKitten]

12. No Labels Founding Members

- include notably Clinton Advisor KiKi McClean, Politico's John Avlon, David Frum, McCain Advisor Mark McKinnon, and Third Way co-founder Jonathan Cowen, etc.

http://nolabels.org/about-us/founding-leaders/
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec10/nolabels_12-13.html

Hmmm. I wonder what they're up to.

[KoKo]

14. Thanks "AK" I thought it was more of the same.

I don't know what they are up to and who their candidate will be if they want Obama out.

I would think it might be Bill Clinton running again or something. But, it's probably Evan Bayh...still too late for anyone to get funding against Obama though.

[AtomicKitten]

15. Surprise, surprise: Evan Bayh.

----> Here's Bayh lobbying for No Labels: http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2010/12/13/video-evan-bayh-stumps-for-new-centrist-group-no-labels/

[KoKo]

17. well...there we go. Can you imagine that milquetoast running against Obama?

:rofl: ....but, it's like them to do that. They might have big bucks funding...but still.. TeaParty against "No Labels" ...fantasy.

[madfloridian]

16. One of the founders was Jon Cowan, head of the Third Way.

[KoKo]

18. I thought it was the "usual suspects." Trying to be the TeaParty for the Left? or the DLC

working to rehab their mis-guided policies. Both of them the same...TeaParty and "No Labels." Corporatists who are running the game...giving "false choices" to the American People who are so distressed they don't know which way to turn...looking for a real leader for us ....and all of them so flawed...run by same.