PHOTO: The FIRST checks to be withheld before Social Security checks should be...

[Bluebear]

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Absolutely right!

[RedCloud]

54. Sadly those guys live off corporate bribe money.

Their salary is a joke to them.

[Ready4Change]

57. Then they wont miss it.

Don't see a problem there.

[sasha031]

2. agreed...

[noiretextatique]

they need a "salary holiday"

:applause:

[noiretextatique]

3. dupe

[kenny blankenship]

4. I don't think you can withhold paychecks from the 537 Walmart Employees Of The Year?

[jimmyflint]

5. I think only China has that authority. n/t

[pennylane100]

6. I think you over estimate their job performance.

[Gin]

7. I agree..their checks should stop first....even the whitehouse

and supreme court.

[Plucketeer]

63. AND THEN.......................

the next tier of SS checks withheld should be targeted at the districts of Boner, Can'tor, Ryan, Dement, and so forth. Let them go to their districts and explain the good logic to their lunacy. :crazy:

[valerief]

62. +1 gazillion!

[surrealAmerican]

8. It wouldn't help.

There are plenty of lobbyists who would be perfectly willing to make up for any missed salary, so long as they are "remembered" when their pet legislation comes up for a vote.

[The Doctor.]

34. No, too big a tub of worms.

(not just the lobbyists)

It's illegal for members to accept financial assistance from lobbyists. To do so would put members in a very vulnerable position across the board. They'd be in a fix between 'sponsors' and opponents that would be more difficult to get out of than an inverted sphere.

It just wouldn't happen that way... especially when it most clearly could happen.

[Hotler]

58. Tell me envelopes with cash are not ...

passed out to those fuckers on the hill in the cover of darkness.

[bigwillq]

9. K and R (nt)

[muntrv]

10. Also withhold their health insurance.

[SDuderstadt]

11. This Congress-bashing...

is getting out of hand.

[Bluebear]

12. Dude......feh.

[SDuderstadt]

13. You can run down Congress if you'd...

like.

I don't see the value longterm.

[robinlynne]

16. You don't? really?

[SDuderstadt]

18. The value of running down the branch of govt...

closest to the elecorate?

Not really.

[robinlynne]

20. If they were close to the electorate we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[SDuderstadt]

22. If you are not close to your elected...

representatves, whose fault is that?

[robinlynne]

24. That would be the fault of the corrupt electoral system we have. Or do you think

this is what "the people' want?

[SDuderstadt]

27. Funny...

that's exactly what the Tea Party says. And they are talking about largely the opposite aims.

Go figure. Sorry, RL...I'm not really interested in your cynicism.

[AlbertCat]

60. that's exactly what the Tea Party says. And they are talking about largely the opposite aims

Yes, good observation.

But an incomplete and shallow observation.

What you are really seeing is the Teabaggers want SOMETHING DONE. Not what I or any kind of sane person would want to happen, but SOMETHING.

We here also want SOMETHING DONE. A completely different set of actions, but SOMETHING.

Congress, mainly due to Repug obstruction, does NOTHING.

If I did nothing at my job, I wouldn't get a pay check either.


Perhaps you are TOO close to your Congress... you can't see the forest for the trees... the fat cat obstructionist trees. Step back.

[rucognizant]

48. DUDE!~

I AM CLOSE to my 2nd Dist. Rep Mike Michaud. He has taken us ( Local Dems ) to breakfast, listened to us, marched in our local parades with us. He is a real sweetheart! Unfortunatel'y he is ONLY ONE AMONG 435! He DID defeat the Koch sponsored candidate run against him last fall!
My 2 moderate repub. ladies Sens. Snowe & Collins............really SUPPORT WELFARE! Every call I have made to them in the last 10, years to get them to change LEGISLATION, has resulted in being given information on how to get HELP ( CHARITY) from some social agency.
I NEED laws that support my independant entrepreneurship., to get me out of the straightjacket created by these laws. ( Yes I know Republican are supposed to be AGAINST welfare)
But they keep bringing home to Maine more LIHEAP funds etc. so my clueless fellow citizens keep voting them into office! Snowe's longtime aid, KNOWS MY VOICE and calls me by name when I call.
I have been VERY ACTIVE politically these past 10 years.................& outspoken to any who will listen to me. ( If you are behind me in the supermarket check out you will hear my political views whether you want to or not.)
I AM ONLY ONE PERSON.......up against the Rev.Moon, bush enterprises, Koch Bros, Heartland Inst. Cato Inst. & EVERY DAMNED FUNDIE CHURCH IN THE LAND.
I AM 72, TIRED & DISCOURAGED, UNSUPPORTED BY MOST except a few friends & family members! not homeless, not hungry, not even sick ( If I were I would get a lot more help) but developing my art career sure takes a backseat to just survival activities!
If they stop SS in AUG. I may go move in with one of the Senators!!
AND there's that bush mansion in Kennebunkport...stands empty all winter. A bunch of us could be comfortable there.
I am saying the SAME THINGS AS THE T-party.................YES! But I want VERY DIFFERENT RESULTS!

[Blue_In_AK]

70. I think if the Tea Partiers and the progressives

were ever to realize how much they have in common, the PTB would have some problems on their hands.

[Abq_Sarah]

75. It's because they're closest to the electorate

That they must be held accountable and closely scrutinized. They write legislation that can have a positive or negative impact on millions of families across America.

[Raschel]

30. It's "running down" congress to say their checks should be held before SS?

They should be paid before the elderly and disabled? :wow:

[SDuderstadt]

33. Read post # 4 n/t

[66 dmhlt]

55. Maybe an even better picture of Congress?

[jimmyflint]

64. The awful truth n/t

[Kaleko]

14. LOL.

Quick, crack your fearsome whip and get these wayward people back in line!!!!!!!!

[jimmyflint]

17. LOL....Oh ,my.

I had no idea there would be whippings. I hope this is the front of the line, because I have been bad, bad boy. :blush:

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[liberation]

32. LOL

Epic concern tour de force!

Bravo!

[Enthusiast]

41. You again!........nt

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[proud2BlibKansan]

74. Your concern is noted

[SDuderstadt]

76. Well...

I am glad for the Democratic portion of Congress.

How about you?

[proud2BlibKansan]

77. What are you glad for?

What did they do to make you glad?

[SDuderstadt]

79. Kept the GOP from...

running totally roughshod over all of us, for starters.

[OhioChick]

15. Damn straight! n/t

[donheld]

21. Indeed

[Ilsa]

23. Cut the motherfuckers off their perks, their gym, their health insurance, paychecks. nt

[Lucky Luciano]

25. Seems reasonable...though they ate mostly independently wealthy. nt

[R. P. McMurphy]

26. K & R (n/t)

[PADemD]

28. Absolutely!

And I was criticized in another thread for even suggesting this.

[Divine Discontent]

29. damned right!!!!

any cuts due to a "CRISIS!" as they scream it to be, need to come out of their paychecks. I want all the senators and reps, and Obama and all their staffs to give up 25% of their salaries, plus if checks were to ever needed to be stopped for SS, the gov't checks of these elected officials need stopped too!

[HeiressofBickworth]

31. As unbelievable as it may seem

I swear this is a true story. Back in the early 1990's I was a paralegal in a 2-attorney law firm. When I first started, I told them we had to be absolutely clear on one point: I would NOT be doing any work for their Republican causes. They said that although they would have liked it, they respected my limitations. I later found that when things got tough, one or both of them would forgo their own paycheck to be sure that I got mine. Sure would be nice if they were in the House now. What a decent example they set.

[caseymoz]

35. Not many will care much.

Almost all are filthy rich. The very class that's trying to shove this Randite philosophy down our throats.

It won't hurt them like missing a government check would hurt me.

[girl_interrupted]

36. K&R Obama should be included

All of them should be included. I wonder what their response would be when they are asked to make the sacrifices they expect of us. Might be fun to watch. True, they probably have more stashed away then any of us might see in a lifetime, but I'd just like to see their faces.

I remember when Minnesota Senator Barbara Goodwin suggested that lawmakers adopt the health care plan for the poor, they had proposed, for 2 years, for themselves. Surprise...There were no takers. Good article, worth a read:

"Surprise amendment stuns Senate during debate over health care for poor"

By Doug Grow | Wednesday, May 11, 2011

"Apparently, what's good for the goose isn't always good for the gander."

"That little truth came to light during Tuesday's Senate debate over health care for the poor."

http://www.minnpost.com/stories/2011/05/11/28200/surprise_amendment_stuns_senate_during_debate_over_health_care_for_poor

The absolute arrogance of these people when you want to take something away from them, or ask them to make a sacrifice, is stunning. Too bad we all can't get away with that, especially when it's our money that pays for them.

[McCamy Taylor]

37. Indeed!

[divvy]

38. As should the first health care, perks, and retirement cuts.

[avebury]

39. K&R

[Enthusiast]

40. No question about it...nt

[JHB]

42. Why? Those people will have no problem getting "loans" to tide them over

Cut off their staffers, cut off their franking privileges, lock any special-use gym, eatery, transportation,etc. Don't restock their office supplies, coffee machines, even their toilet paper.

Most of these guys are millionaires anyway. Cutting off their pay for a little while won't get to them.
Making it an even bigger pain in the neck to go about their daily routine will.

[Paper Roses]

43. Put a hold on their benefits at the same time. n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

45. The first checks withheld should be interest payments on t-bills.

[Hubert Flottz]

49. I'll drink to that and I quit drinking ten years ago...almost.

[malaise]

46. Perfect

Rec

[muffin1]

47. K&R n/t

[on point]

50. T-Bill payments!! Especially the ones in billion dollar increments

[Hotler]

59. +1000 n/t

[Bluebear]

73. !

[AnneD]

51. Damn Skippy....

Mate.:thumbsup: :nopity:

[OwnedByFerrets]

52. AMEN

[BetsysGhost]

53. out of the loop for a while

are they holding checks back and when does this happen?

[SnakeEyes]

56. If you think SS is getting withheld

you're a fool. No way does anyone let this happen. Debt ceiling or not, the checks will go out. Plenty of revenue left after paying the debt payment.

[valerief]

61. And their medical insurance premiums, too! nt

[Ignis]

65. K&FR.

:patriot:

[Moostache]

66. They spend MILLIONS for a job that pays a 1/10th of that...

I don't think they give a rat's ass about the paycheck.
We should cut their STAFF'S pay and we would see some action then....

[NewJeffCT]

67. I'd start withholding things from red states first

maybe steer government contracts to blue state companies as well.

[Blue_In_AK]

68. Dream on.

Like THAT will ever happen.

[Lifelong Protester]

69. Fine by me. My paycheck in WI will start being reduced this week

to help 'solve' a problem neither I nor my profession caused. So why should not those who had some hand (in their policies or lack of action) get to have a taste of 'shared sacrifice'? Isn't this what Ryan said, that oldsters who are on Medicare really "want" to chip in and save the country?

You folks in Congress, join hands, and YOU walk the plank first.

[Yon_Yonson]

71. Stop their paychecks, healthcare and anything else they are getting

then padlock the fucking place.

[Fire1]

72. Amen to that!!! n/t

[Hotler]

78. kicking! n/t