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Libyan Revolution Week 21 part 2
Links to sites with updates: http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/libya">AJE Libya Live Blog http://blogs.aljazeera.net/twitter-dashboard">AJE Twitter Dashboard http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/libya">The Guardian http://uk.reuters.com/places/libya">Reuters http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/">Telegraph http://feb17.info/">feb17.info http://www.livestream.com/libya17feb?utm_source=lsplayer&utm_medium=embed&utm_campaign=footerlinks">Libya Alhurra (live video webcast from Benghazi) http://libya-alhurra.tumblr.com/">Libya Alhurra archives and updates http://www.ustream.tv/channel/benghaziradio">Benghazi Free Radio, in Arabic (may have translators present at times) http://www.tributefm.com/">Tribute FM (English broadcast from Benghazi) http://www.libyafeb17.com/">libyafeb17.com

Twitter links: http://twitter.com/#!/aymanm">Ayman Mohyeldin, with AJE http://twitter.com/#!/bencnn">Ben Wedeman, with CNN http://twitter.com/#!/tripolitanian">tripolitanian, a Libyan from Tripoli http://twitter.com/#!/BaghdadBrian">Brian Conley, reporter in Libya http://twitter.com/#!/freelibyanyouth">FreeLibyanYouth, Libyan advocate http://twitter.com/#!/LibyaFeb17_com">LibyaFeb17.com twitter account http://twitter.com/#!/ChangeInLibya">ChangeInLibya, Libyan advocate https://twitter.com/#!/TheyCallMeSof">Sofyan Amry (arrived in Benghazi recently) http://twitter.com/#!/KiloFoot">KiloFoot (general Arab Spring news aggregation)

Useful links: http://audioboo.fm/feb17voices">feb17voices http://www.google.com/search?q=time+in+libya">Current time in Libya http://www.islamicfinder.org/cityPrayerNew.php?country=libya">Prayer times in Libya

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1447806">Week 21 part 1 here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixwx_B38678">Marching On in Libya, for the revolutionaries!


Artists painted on a wall surrounding the Benghazi airport showing different people that make up Libyan society.

Sergey Ponomarev/Associated Press



Day 135 July 2

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8b4a7a90-a416-11e0-8b4f-00144feabdc0.html">Western rebels revive hope in Libyan fight
Rebels in western Libya are seeking more gains in their fight with Muammer Gaddafi’s forces, boosted by arms and political support from powers abroad seeking to end resistance by his regime to months of civil war and Nato bombings.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=38920&Cr=libya&Cr1=">UN team finds deep humanitarian needs in Nafusa mountains
“The humanitarian situation in the Nafusa mountains remains a top concern”
http://english.libya.tv/2011/07/01/libyas-abandoned-stockpiles-attract-smugglers/">Libya’s abandoned stockpiles attract smugglers
Packed to its limit with crates of artillery shells, the once-secret military base in the eastern Libyan desert is now open to anyone looking for an easy way to stock up on free ammunition.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/07/02/libya.war">Two Libyan cities shelled after Gadhafi rallies supporters
Heavy shelling fell on the besieged port city of Misrata and the embattled city of Dafniya on Saturday, according to a CNN team in Libya who heard the explosions.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/SID-AC6739AB-4C3328EF/natolive/news_75942.htm">NATO tackles threat of attacks in western Libya
In recent days, NATO-led Operation Unified Protector has stepped up its military pressure on pro-Qadhafi forces in western Libya, disrupting attempts to increase their attacks on civilians.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-02/clinton-says-libyan-rebels-strengthening-rejects-qaddafi-threat.html">Clinton Says Libyan Rebels Strengthening
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Libyan rebels are gaining momentum and that the country’s leader, Muammar Qaddafi, should stop issuing threats against foreign nations.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/07/02/libya.war">Libyan rebels, Gadhafi forces exchange fire; 11 rebels wounded
Libyan rebels and troops loyal to Moammar Gadhafi shelled each other for hours on Saturday in clashes at the highly contested frontline of Dafniya, an embattled town just west of the besieged port city of Misrata.
http://youtu.be/yT-lFUwVebA">Libya from colonization to Gaddafi's "Freedom, Socialism and Unity" - video
Singer: Aït Menguellet from his album A kwen-ix?ae Rebbi (1992) - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1401485&mesg_id=1404241">lyrics here
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/publications/article.cfm?id=5410&cat=briefing-documents&ref=footer-features">Trapped in Transit: The Neglected Victims of the War in Libya
Since the beginning of the war in Libya, more than one million1 civilians have fled the conflict, most of them crossing land borders to Tunisia, Egypt, Algeria, Chad, Niger, and Sudan.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/01/990315/-Did-Qaddafi-Bomb-Peaceful-Protesters">Did Qaddafi Bomb Peaceful Protesters?
Almost from the being of the Arab uprising in Libya, Qaddafi met the peaceful protesters with maximum violence. By 21 February, he was already using war planes against demonstrations in Tripoli and Benghazi.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/01/misrata-band-libya-rebels-fb-17">Misrata band lays down a soundtrack for Libya's rebels
Bands the world over complain about how tough it was in the early years: no money, no gigs, money-grabbing producers. But such annoyances pale alongside the travails of Libya's FB 17.


Day 136 July 3

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_686699.html">Libyan rebels hope to retake gateway to Tripoli
LIBYA'S rebel army on Saturday said it hoped to recapture areas to the south of Tripoli over the next 48 hours, as they attempt to push within striking distance of the capital.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iFPqknfbpI7tRiOkj6x18OeNyQgA?docId=CNG.d97d1583cba2c514095cbdcb58e788d5.381">Libyans 'executed' for shunning Kadhafi rally: relative
Hours after thousands packed Tripoli's Green Square cheering for Moamer Kadhafi, Mohammed said the still warm body of his nephew was dumped outside the family home with two bullets in his head.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gin6_hAV6K3gD7P-4kIYJsDmzxHA?docId=CNG.c45b1499618bdfc8c2602868ded684ec.81">Libya rebels poised for push towards Tripoli
Buoyed by French arms drops and intensified NATO air strikes on the regime's frontline armour, Libya's rebel army said it is poised for an offensive that could put it within striking distance of Tripoli.
http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-recognizes-libya-rebels-gives-300-million-174140388.html">Turkey recognizes Libya rebels, gives $300 million
Turkey's foreign minister says his country recognizes the leadership of the Libyan rebels as the sole legitimate representatives of the country.
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/07/201173113123144759.html">World politics and the revolution in Libya
Revolts and revolutions begin locally but their outcomes are often determined globally. The rebels themselves understandably are focused on bringing down the regime that oppresses them. But the course of their struggles and the ultimate fate of their revolution can be shaped by faraway forces and events.
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/07/2011721054895234.html">Libya: 'We win or we die'
Libyan rebels continue their struggle against Muammer Gaddafi loyalists; for the rebels it is a matter of life or death.
http://www.dc4mf.org/en/content/libyans-journey-doha#.Tg9YI_Zwvb4.facebook">A Libyan's journey to Doha
I've been working in the media since 2001 and with Libyan state TV since 2008. Being a news anchor at state television, I had been reporting on the developments in the region and we knew something was going to happen in Libya soon.


Day 137 July 4

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2011/jul/04/syria-libya-middle-east-unrest#block-2">Turkey cuts diplomatic ties with Gaddafi regime, recalls ambassador, freezes assets
Turkey has cut its diplomatic ties with Muammar Gaddafi's Libyan government and recalled its ambassador, the Turkish Official Gazette reported over the weekend.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8615040/Saif-Gaddafi-My-father-will-not-leave-Libya.html">Saif Gaddafi: 'My father will not leave Libya'
In an interview for French television Muammar Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam defiantly states that Western powers are doomed to lose their military campaign to oust the Libyan leader.
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE76302Z20110704?sp=true">Libyan government says talks with rebels
The Libyan government has had meetings in foreign capitals with representatives of the country's opposition to try to negotiate a peace deal, a spokesman for Muammar Gaddafi's administration said on Monday.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-07-04/qaddafi-should-face-trial-if-he-stays-in-libya-opposition-says.html">Qaddafi Should Face Trial If He Stays in Libya, Opposition Says
Muammar Qaddafi can remain in Libya provided he resigns and is prepared to face prosecution, said Jalal el-Gallal, a spokesman for the rebels’ National Transitional Council.
http://blog.bridging-the-divide.org/news/room-to-grow-free-libyas-emergent-civil-society">Room to Grow: Free Libya’s Emergent Civil Society
“Who’s actually running things in free Libya?” Such was the question posed by PhD candidate Ryan Calder in a recent article for Foreign Policy, “The Improvised State.” Eastern Libya’s Transitional National Council (TNC) has shouldered much of the burden, Calder writes, but it has mostly had its hands full with top-down management – particularly of its ad-hoc military and oil facilities.


Day 138 July 5

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/world/europe/05russia.html">Russia Renews Push for Libyan Peace
Russia stepped up its efforts to negotiate a resolution to the war in Libya on Monday, with officials here receiving the president of South Africa, who has also offered his services as a mediator, and the secretary-general of NATO.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/04/ap/world/main20076721.shtml">Gaddafi regime claims to intercept boats with Qatari arms intended for rebels
Libyan officials said that shortly before dawn they intercepted two boats loaded with weapons from Qatar that were intended for the rebels.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14026216">Waiting game for rebels in western Libya
Morale on the government side seems to be very low. There are indications on the front line in the mountain village of Kikla, for example, that the pro-Gaddafi soldiers would surrender quickly if their officers let them.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jRjBpiDTQxittcV_eMGOwdlxd0pw?docId=dd1aba15612a45b190d1bc1b78524891">Gadhafi's forces strike rebels in western Libya
Moammar Gadhafi's forces stepped up pressure near the port city of Misrata and a key western mountain range to try to block rebel fighters from advancing toward the capital of Tripoli, rebels said Tuesday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/05/us-libya-aid-idUSTRE7643UI20110705">ICRC alarmed by situation in Libya, fears worse
The shifting frontlines near Misrata and the Nafusa mountain region of western Libya, southwest of Tripoli, have forced more families to flee their homes, said Castella. "We don't think that the frontlines will stabilize anytime soon."
http://english.libya.tv/2011/07/05/two-kilometre-independence-flag-and-close-to-a-million-people-expected-in-benghazi-rally">Two kilometre independence flag and a million people expected in Benghazi rally
In a full-bodied sign of unity, Libyans in Benghazi and other liberated cities and towns are planning for a massive rally which has not been seen since the beginning of the uprisings in mid-February.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=38940&Cr=libya&Cr1=">Libya: UN introduces regular vessel to ferry aid from Benghazi to Misrata
The United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) has launched the first ship with a regular schedule to ferry relief supplies and aid workers from the Libyan city of Benghazi to Misrata
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14035281">Three days of farce in Gaddafi's Libya
... up until this week, none of the foreign journalists locked up in our five-star gilded cage in Tripoli had been offered a chance to see Col Muammar Gaddafi's loyal fighters up close on the front lines.
http://youtu.be/Qn8tquQh6gc">Libyan mountain town seeks to rebuild - video
In Jadu, a small town in Libya's western Nafusa Mountains, protesters destroyed many icons of Muammar Gaddafi's regime soon after the uprising began in mid-February.
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/news/voices/?ref=main-menu">Voices from the Field
First-hand Accounts from MSF Aid Workers and Patients


Day 139 July 6

http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Libya-rebels-becoming-self-sufficient-20110705">Libya rebels becoming self sufficient
Benghazi - Libya's rebels, increasingly confident on the ground, no longer need weapons drops from France, Paris said on Tuesday as a Russian official reported Muammar Gaddafi is conditionally ready to step down.
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/libyans-who-fled-tripoli-1000035.html">Libyans who fled Tripoli describe furtive protests
Rebel sympathizers, driven underground by a security clampdown in Tripoli, have resorted to furtive protests such as writing "No" next to pro-government wall graffiti and releasing balloons with rebel flags attached, according to two Libyans who have escaped the capital.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304447804576413792782010496.html?mod=googlenews_wsj">Prolonged Libya War Puts Defected Diplomats in Limbo
Libya's war has thrown many diplomats who abandoned Col. Moammar Gadhafi's government into a curious limbo, as they attempt to hold together stateless embassies while the conflict drags into its fifth month.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14037358">Libya: Rebels 'create Misrata arc'
Libyan rebels have succeeded in creating a defensive arc south and west of the port of Misrata by linking up two fronts, they have told the BBC.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2011/Jul-06/Libya-rebels-launch-assault-on-gateway-to-Tripoli.ashx">Libya rebels launch assault on gateway to Tripoli
ZINTAN: Libyan rebels launched a promised assault on a key gateway to Tripoli early Wednesday, attacking positions just 50 kilometers from the capital, an AFP correspondent reported.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/07/2011766657771381.html">Civilians killed in Misurata shelling
Libyan rebels say scores wounded after pro-Gaddafi troops shell besieged enclave in west of the country.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-06/oil-tanker-fidias-is-moored-at-rebel-held-port-in-libya-1-.html">Oil Tanker Fidias Is Moored at Rebel Held Port in Libya
Fidias, an oil products tanker, is moored at the rebel-held port of Benghazi in eastern Libya, a sign that enemies of Muammar Qaddafi seeking to end his four- decade rule are still getting fuel deliveries by sea.
http://www.universalsubtitles.org/sv/videos/P6a4IMpOjMIh">Sa'if Gadaffi's recent rambling and bizarre speech to a group of Revolutionary Council thugs in Tripoli.
This video illustrates what the freedom fighters are up against, in it Saif talks of expunging all non-Gaddafi supporters from Libya (as Iterate notes that's at least 2/3rds of Libya, though that's being conservative). And at the end he even says the "spoils of war" will go to them. It's disgusting. Normally I wouldn't post Saif/Gaddafi propaganda, but I pity anyone who watches this and still has doubts about the freedom fighters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI2ncwCCYnM">Freedom Fighter heroes Monday July4 after liberating area west of Misrata - video
Video of a long chain of celebrating freedom fighters after they helped liberate an area west of Misrata


Day 140 July 7

http://cjchivers.com/post/7315200016/pics-from-the-capture-of-al-qualish-libya">CJ Chivers: Pics from the Capture of Al Qualish, Libya.
Rebels opposed to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi captured the town of Al Qualish today, moving closer to Garyan, the city astride the highway running south from Tripoli.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/in-libya-rebels-gaining-in-the-west/2011/07/06/gIQAmNvA1H_story.html">In Libya, rebels gaining in the west
Rebel victories in Libya’s western mountains are shifting the focus of efforts to topple Moammar Gaddafi’s regime, as fighters close in on cities that control the government’s main supply routes.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/07/uk-china-libya-idUKTRE7660Q520110707">China deepens engagement with Libyan rebels
A Chinese diplomat met with leaders of Libya's National Transitional Council (NTC) at their base in Benghazi, state media said on Thursday, building deeper relationships with rebels seeking to oust Muammar Gaddafi.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201107070633.html">Libya: Botswana Supports the Warrant of Arrest Issued by ICC
Botswana wishes to reiterate her position in support of the warrant of arrest. This decision was not reached lightly.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/07/in-tunisia-nations-compete-to-aid-libyan-refugees/241394">In Tunisia, Nations Compete to Aid Libyan Refugees
Qatar's lavish camp is currently winning the competition to best provide for Libyans fleeing the civil war, even outperforming the UN, but to what end?
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/07/libya-expels-telegraph-journalist-over-pro-rebel-report/39684">Libya Expels Telegraph Journalist Over Anti-Qaddafi Report
There's a secret war going on in Tripoli, and Qaddafi's regime is going to great lengths to keep it a secret.
http://cjchivers.com/post/7350661468/landmines-used-by-qaddafi-forces-in-nafusa-mountains">CJ Chivers: Landmines Used By Qaddafi Forces in Nafusa Mountains
When Al Qawalish fell to the anti-Qaddafi forces on Wednesday, the rebels encountered a worrisome hazard — a large minefield along the left flank and, to a lesser degree, the front of a blocking position on the road.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/07/uk-libya-alqawalish-idUKTRE76666520110707">Gaddafi forces shell ghost town after rebel advance
The frontline Libyan village of Al-Qawalish was a ghost town Thursday, a day after it was seized by rebels, who said life may return to normal in the area after the exit of Muammar Gaddafi's troops.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hzcV5HR_nwKoRqjVuQVcks0BqnpA?docId=af776e3bd13a47928580d0931d0a623e

Moammar Gadhafi is loved in Libya's rebel capital — as a subject for street artists to mock.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/africa/2011/07/07/talking-free-press-libya">Talking to the free press in Libya
Farooq, our Libyan fixer, turned up at the Al Jazeera house here a couple of nights ago and asked me to do him a favour. Would I give a talk to a bunch of budding young Libyan journalists about journalism and, in particular, about how to handle press conferences?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjboApiIgRE">Jadu's anti Gaddafi demonstration - video
Jadu is near the front lines in the western mountains. These people would in immediate danger of violating law 19 and 71 which restrict free association, with article 206 rendering the penalty of death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGe2m2V9q14">BBC News' Mark Doyle reports from Nafusa Mountains
Mark Doyle discusses Berber-Arab unity, along with the reintroduction of the Berber language which Gaddafi has banned for 42 years (but somehow it has persisted). Also talk of tribal divisions, no doubt fomented by Gaddafi.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/africa/2011/07/06/gun-running-libyan-rebels">Gun running with the Libyan rebels
As the daughter of a ship’s captain, I’ve been on some strange voyages in my time. But our passage to Misrata in late June had to be the craziest.
http://youtu.be/Ow3H8UtbPYQ">Video from TripoliCalling demonstration in Misrata - video
Today at 6:00 PM local time Misratah, hundreds of Misrahties demonstrated in Sana Mehidly st. and ended up at Freedom Place. There they made their voices clear to the world, "Gaddafi it is time to leave."


Day 141 July 8

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/07/uk-libya-gains-idUKTRE7662YV20110707">Analysis - Rebel gains too slow to hurt Gaddafi badly
More battlefield gains in rural areas will help raise flagging morale among Libyan rebels impatient for victory but won't shift the military balance decisively against Muammar Gaddafi soon.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/08/us/politics/08powers.html">House Sends Conflicting Signals on Libya
The House voted down a measure on Thursday that would have prevented the United States military from using force in Libya, but it also blocked military support to the Libyan rebels
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/08/uk-libya-un-idUKTRE76707920110708">U.N. chief, Libya PM discuss need to solve fighting
U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon spoke with Libya's prime minister by telephone on Thursday about the need to end the current fighting in the North African nation, according to a statement from Ban's spokesperson's office.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/captured-gaddafi-soldiers-including-foreign-fighters-tell-of-low-morale/2011/07/07/gIQAGspi2H_story.html">Captured Gaddafi soldiers, including foreign fighters, tell of low morale
In interviews conducted separately at the rebel-run jail in Ziltan, the detainees said that as many as half the forces deployed by the Gaddafi regime to the front lines come from countries such as Niger and Mali. ... In the capital, government officials offered him Libyan citizenship in exchange for taking up arms for Gaddafi, he said.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/07/20117853828409960.html">'The bitter price of freedom' -- Despite losses, Zintan ready to keep fighting
Residents of remote town in western Libya will not accept anything less than the end of Gaddafi's government.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/libya-jul-8-2011-1937">NATO warplanes bomb Gaddafi forces in Western Mountains
NATO warplanes bombed forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi in Libya's Western Mountains on Friday at the front line where Gaddafi's troops retreated two days ago from a rebel advance.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-08/misrata-rebels-say-they-captured-libyan-village-after-three-days-of-battle.html">Misrata Rebels Say They Captured Libyan Village After Three Days of Battle
Rebels in the besieged Libyan city of Misrata said they captured a village on the outskirts of the government-held town of Zlitan after three days of fighting.
http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=228521">Gaddafi threatens 'martyr' attacks in Europe
Muammar Gaddafi threatened on Friday to send hundreds of Libyans to launch attacks in Europe in revenge for the NATO-led military campaign against him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8626622/Libya-Gaddafi-army-attacks-supply-route-as-rebels-make-advance.html">Libya: Gaddafi army attacks supply route as rebels make advance
A sustained assault by pro-Gaddafi forces on a vital opposition supply route close to the Tunisian border is threatening to undermine a rebel advance on Tripoli.
http://www.wbez.org/story/sebastian-junger-and-world’s-policeman-88908">Sebastian Junger and the world’s policeman
One person who has added meaningfully to this conversation over the last two decades is journalist and filmmaker Sebastian Junger. He has spoken up in favor of American intervention, but knows the costs can be high: His friend and partner, photojournalist Tim Hetherington, was killed during the fighting in Libya in April.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jul/08/guardian-journalist-expelled-tripoli-libya">With Guardian and Daily Telegraph expelled, no British or American reporters remain in Tripoli
The Guardian has been expelled from Tripoli for the second time in three weeks as the Libyan regime seeks tighter control over how the conflict is reported to the world.
News stories that got reporters deported by the Gaddafi regime:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/06/tripoli-night-battles-rebels-shootings">Tripoli: a stronghold by day, a battleground at night (David Smith)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8620881/Libya-covert-guerrilla-war-in-Tripoli.html">Libya: covert guerrilla war in Tripoli (Adrian Blomfield)
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/07/07/libya.tripoli.rebel">From deep inside Tripoli, displays of defiance
The view that journalists get while driving through Tripoli is typically witnessed through the windows of government buses driving along routes selected by government minders that show a pro-government landscape.
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2011/07/08/libya-government-lays-more-mines-western-mountains">Libya: Government Lays More Mines in Western Mountains ('Shameful,' says HRW)
Libyan government forces have placed at least three minefields containing antipersonnel and antivehicle landmines outside the village of al-Qawalish in the western Nafusa Mountains, Human Rights Watch said today.
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/07/07/156560.html">Libya Soup Kitchen
After an arduous day of fighting the frontline, in Misrata, Libya, volunteers have set up a soup kitchen catering especially to ravenous rebel soldiers.




http://www.reuters.com/places/libya">Click here for updated map



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x594751">A topic on the women of the revolution, dispels myths about the treatment of women in Benghazi.

Videos to bring the Libyan Revolution into context
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0vChMDuNd0">The Battle of Benghazi. BBC Panorama on Libya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyaPnMnpCAA">Part 1, and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMzwQvcx62s">Part 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwWwOeZqz6M">Video of the convoy sent to take Benghazi, taken from a dead soliders cell phone (shows how massive the operation was). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAclhhHv43s&feature=player_embedded">Arab Awakening: Libya: Through the Fire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD5tu5bJWKc">Tea of Freedom Song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z41kQvx4uKw">Libya: Part 2 - The Uprising http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vNWCGDkdWY">Benghazi - Backbone of the Libyan revolution


http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-10-0">March 10 7:28pm Saif al Islam Gaddafi says "the time has come for full-scale military action" against Libyan rebels. He goes on to say that Libyan forces loyal to his family "will never surrender, even if western powers intervene".


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x677397">Text of UN resolution 1973. How will a no fly zone work? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWEwehTtK2k">AJE reports.

Belgium: http://www.lesoir.be/actualite/monde/2011-03-21/les-f-16-belges-dans-le-feu-de-l-action-829588.php">Six F-16 Falcon fighter jets of the Belgian Air Component. Bulgaria: The Bulgarian Navy Wielingen class frigate Drazki http://paper.standartnews.com/en/article.php?d=2011-03-23&article=35828">will participate in the naval blockade. Canada: Canadian Forces Air Command has deployed http://www.cefcom-comfec.forces.gc.ca/pa-ap/ops/mobile/index-eng.asp">a total 440 military personnel as well as the Halifax-class frigate HMCS Charlottetown are participating in operations. Denmark: The Royal Danish Air Force http://politiken.dk/newsinenglish/ECE1227910/denmark-to-send-squadron-on-libya-op/">is participating with six F-16AM fighters. France: French Air Force which realizes 25% of NATO's strikes http://www.defense.gouv.fr/operations/autres-operations/harmattan/libye-debut-des-operations-aeriennes-francaises">is participating in the mission with 51 Mirage and Rafale Aircraft. Greece: The Elli-class frigate Limnos of the Hellenic Navy http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2011/03/20/greek-defence-ministry-no-participation-in-operations-outside-the-nato/">is currently in the waters off Libya as part of the naval blockade. Italy: Four Tornado ECRs of the Italian Air Force http://www.corriere.it/esteri/11_marzo_20/tripoli-bombardamento-chiesta-riunione-onu_2e95d102-52c0-11e0-a725-dbe20f0ba2b5.shtml">participated in SEAD operations. Jordan: Six Royal Jordanian Air Force fighter jets http://www.allheadlinenews.com/briefs/articles/90043651?After%20hesitation%2C%20Jordan%20joins%20in%20Libya%20no-fly%20campaign">landed at a coalition airbase in Europe on 4 April to provide "logistical support." NATO: E-3 airborne early warning and control (AWACS) http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/nordtrondelag/article1606878.ece">aircraft operated by NATO. Netherlands: The Royal Netherlands Air Force http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/dutch-f-16s-operational-over-libya">provides six F-16AM fighters and a KDC-10 refuelling plane. Norway: The Royal Norwegian Air Force has http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/libya/artikkel.php?artid=10091294">deployed six F-16AM fighters to Souda Bay Air Base. Qatar: The Qatar Armed Forces are http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123248695">contributing six Mirage 2000-5EDA fighter jets and two C-17 strategic transport aircraft. Romania: The Romanian Naval Forces http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-politic-8423876-traian-basescu-sustine-declaratie-presa-ora-21-00-dupa-sedinta-csat.htm">will participate in the naval blockade with the frigate Regele Ferdinand. Spain: The Spanish Armed Forces are http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/Espana/intervendra/cazas/F-18/fragata/F-100/submarino/avion/vigilancia/maritima/elpepuint/20110319elpepuint_14/Tes">participating with four F-18 fighters. Sweden: The Royal Swedish Air Force will http://www.swedishwire.com/politics/9050-sweden-offers-eight-fighter-jets-for-libya-mission">commit eight JAS 39 Gripen jets for the international air campaign. Turkey: The Turkish Navy http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/03/24/general-libya-diplomacy_8373237.html">will participate with five ships and one submarine in the NATO-led naval blockade to enforce the arms embargo. United Arab Emirates: The United Arab Emirates Air Force http://www.wam.org.ae/servlet/Satellite?c=WamLocEnews&cid=1300255413630&p=1135099400124&pagename=WAM%2FWamLocEnews%2FW-T-LEN-FullNews">sent six F-16 Falcon and six Mirage 2000 fighter jets to join the mission. United Kingdom: The Royal Air Force has http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/MilitaryOperations/TyphoonJoinsTornadoInLibyaGroundAttackOperations.htm">deployed 12 Tornado and 10 Typhoon fighters, surveillance aircraft, and air refuelling tankers. United States: The United States has http://www.webcitation.org/5xJ8qNGGe">deployed a naval force of 11 ships and are using MQ-1 Predator UAVs to strike targets in Libya on 23 April.

As of this week the National Trasitional Council has been formally recognized by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_the_Libyan_Republic#Recognition">23 countries. France (March 10), Qatar (March 28), Maldives (April 3), Italy (April 4), Kuwait (April 13), The Gambia (April 22), Jordan (April 24), Sengal (April 28), The United Kingdom (June 4), Spain (June 8), Australia (June 9), UAE (June 12), Germany (June 13), Canada (June 14), Panama (June 14), Austria (June 18), Latvia (June 20), Denmark (June 22), Bulgaria (June 28), Croatia (June 28), Czech Republic (June 29), Turkey (July 3), Poland (July 9).

"One month ago (Western countries) were sooo nice, so nice like pussycats," Saif says in a contemptuous sing-song tone."Now they want to be really aggressive like tigers. (But) soon they will come back, and cut oil deals, contracts. We know this game." - http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2058389,00.html">Saif Gaddafi


(Yeah, Saif, as if you weren't "cutting oil deals, contracts" with western states. Who are the 'tigers' now? Bombing your own people.)

http://english.libya.tv/2011/04/25/eastern-libyans-believe-in-national-unity-distrust-au-and-turkish-mediation-survey-reveals/">The first free public opinion poll ever conducted in Libya reveals clues to Eastern Libyan sentiments
* 98 percent of the respondents do not support the division of Libya as a part of the political solution for the current conflict with the Gaddafi regime. Around 95 percent also don’t see any role for Gaddafi or his sons in a transitional period, and think it is impossible to implement any political reform in Libya if Gaddafi or one of his sons stays in power

* Around 96 percent of those polled, believe that the 17th of February revolution can consolidate the national unity of Libya and support the model of a democratic Libya based on a constitution which respects human rights

* Al-Qaeda has not played any role in the 17th of February revolution, say 94 percent of the Eastern Libyans, and 91 percent thinks it’s impossible for Al-Qaeda to play any political role in the new Libya

* The National Transitional Council is seen by 92 percent of those surveyed as “expressing the views and wishes of Libyans for change”


This is equivalent to 17% the entire population of Libya, doing the numbers very conservatively.


http://jenkinsear.com/2011/03/19/a-legal-war-the-united-nations-participation-act-and-libya/">A Legal War: The United Nations Participation Act and Libya
The above link is to an overview of why Obama's implementation of the NFZ and R2P is perfectly legal under the law. I will not post it entirely here, however, all objections come down to the misinformed position that Obama, by using forces in Libya, was invoking Article 43 of the United Nations. This is wrong. Obama invoked Article 42, which does not require congressional approval to implement. Proof of this is that Article 43 has http://www.un.org/en/sc/repertoire/actions.shtml#rel5">never been used.

It goes like this: The US law (Title 22, Chap. 7, Subchap. XIV § 287d) grants the President the right to invoke UN Article 42 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode22/usc_sec_22_00000287---d000-.html">without authorization, the War Powers Act (Title 50, Chap. 33 § 1541) grants the President permission to act without authorization under http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/1541–1548.html">"specific statutory authorization" which, by definition, is what 287d does. § 1543 of the War Powers Act requires the President to report to Congress, http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/obama_explains_libya_mission_to_congress/2011/03/03/ABU9377_blog.html">which he did. One can argue all day and night about the legality of the War Powers Act, doesn't change the fact that under the law as it is written, the President acted within the law.






Mohammed Nabbous, killed by Gaddafi's forces while trying to report on the massacre in Benghazi

"I'm not afraid to die, I'm afraid to lose the battle" -Mohammed Nabbous, a month ago when all this began


I'm struggling to come up with something to say about this man. I was not aware of the Libyan uprising until I saw Mo's first report, begging for help, posted here on DU. I was stricken. Here was a man giving everything he had to explain a situation that clearly terrified him, I would not call him a coward in that moment, but you could see the fear in his eyes, and desperation in his voice. For 30 days Nabbous would spend many hours covering the uprising in Benghazi. For many nights I would go to sleep with the webcast of Benghazi live on my computer screen, looking to it occasionally to be sure it was still 'there.' Mo treated the chat room as if we were his friends, and in some way, we were. I never signed up to LiveStream to thank him for all his work and it seems somewhat shallow to do so now, given that I was a lurker for so long. Ever since I took over posting these threads "Libya Alhurra" has been linked as a source of information. It wasn't until last night, when I posted, and twitter posted on Mo's adventures out into Benghazi to try to determine the truth of the situation, that Mo's webchannel became a hit, over 2000 people were watching him stream live. This was curious to him because he'd done many reports like this in the past but he appeared somewhat bemused that the view count exploded as it did. Last night Mo became a star. This is a man who first started out with a webcast replete with fear and desperation finally overcoming that aspect of himself and losing that fear, to become someone who was a fighter for the resistance just as much as those who held the guns. Reporting on the front lines of Benghazi became his final act, and for that he should never, ever be forgotten. I'm so sorry Mo that I never got to know you better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAclhhHv43s&feature=player_ded">Arab Awakening: Libya: Through the Fire is a documentary about Mo's last days, please watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38EXALI60hg">Mo's first report, which many of you may remember, begging for help.

Mo leaves behind a wife and a newborn child she had http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/23/a_bright_voice_from_libyas_darkness">this to say about the No Fly Zone and R2P UN resolution:

We started this in a pure way, but he turned it bloody. Thousands of our men, women, and children have died. We just wanted our freedom, that's all we wanted, we didn't want power. Before, we could not do a single thing if it was not the way he wanted it. All we wanted was freedom. All we wanted was to be free. We have paid with our blood, with our families, with our men, and we're not going to give up. We are still going to do that no matter what it takes, but we need help. We want to do this ourselves, but we don't have the weapons, the technology, the things we need. I don't want anyone to say that Libya got liberated by anybody else. If NATO didn't start moving when they did, I assure you, I assure you, half of Benghazi if not more would have been killed. If they stop helping us, we are going to be all killed because he has no mercy anymore.


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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:14 AM
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1. Libyan Revolution Day 146 updates below, current time in Libya, 1:14pm Wednesday, July 13
pinboy3niner is going to be traveling and I didn't think to really do a part 2, but it will become unwieldy either way. I'll be doing most of the updating toward this weekend.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:17 AM
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2. Libyan military falling apart?, rebel fighters form united command, rebels accused of pillaging
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2011/07/12/wedeman.libya.prisoners.cnn">Libyan military falling apart?
Libyan prisoners of war say their former army is disintegrating. CNN's Ben Wedeman reports (2:18):


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/libyas-rebel-fighters-form-united-command-20110713-1hcm5.html">Libya's rebel fighters form united command
Libya's ragtag rebels said they had moved a step closer to becoming a coherent military force, as they announced a unified command structure for the first time.

After more than four months of battle against strongman Muammar Gaddafi's regime, fighters from the volunteer brigades said on Tuesday they would now fall under the command of the minister of defence, Jalal al-Digheily.

"Now the national army and the union of revolutionary forces have come under the ministry of defence," said Fawzy Bokatif, a rebel commander.

"This union comprises all the revolutionary forces which are present at the front lines," he added.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/world/africa/13libya.html">Libyan Rebels Accused of Pillage and Beatings in Towns They Captured
ZINTAN, Libya — Rebels in the mountains in Libya’s west have looted and damaged four towns seized since last month from the forces of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, part of a series of abuses and apparent reprisals against suspected loyalists that have chased residents of these towns away, Human Rights Watch said Tuesday.

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A rebel near Qawalish on Tuesday confirmed Colonel Farnana’s view, saying that the rebels had instructions not to “break anything or burn houses,” but that orders ran up against the realities of waging war with a nonprofessional, quasi-military force.

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Such rebels actions, however, have paled next to the abuses of Colonel Qaddafi’s forces, which have fired on unarmed demonstrators and used artillery, rocket batteries and mortars against many rebel-held cities and towns.

Phones taken from dead or wounded soldiers have yielded images that strongly suggested that some of Colonel Qaddafi’s units have executed detainees. The colonel’s forces have also ransacked and looted homes and businesses on many fronts throughout the war.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:20 AM
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3. Rebels gaining on Gaddafi regime, Gaddafi eyes exit, NATO, EU talk with Libyan opposition
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 06:38 AM by joshcryer
http://www.wtvy.com/home/headlines/Rebels_Gaining_on_Gadhafi_Regime_125450448.html">Rebels Gaining on Gadhafi Regime
Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi is facing dramatic shortages of fuel for his soldiers and citizens in Tripoli, and he is running out of cash to pay his forces and what is left of his government, according to the latest U.S. intelligence reports. In France, the foreign minister reported that Gadhafi is prepared to leave power.


Rebel forces that captured towns from Nalut to Kikla in Libya's western Nafusa mountains cut a key crude oil pipeline that feeds one of the regime's major refineries in the town of al-Zawiya, U.S. officials told The Associated Press. They cited U.S. intelligence estimates that fuel shortages could occur within as little as a month.


The cash shortage follows Turkey's move last week to seize hundreds of millions of dollars held in the Arab Turkish Bank, the U.S. officials said. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters of intelligence.

...

Intelligence analysts are pointing to the collection of indicators, including territory seized and looming fuel and money shortages, as the first shift from stalemate to momentum for the rebels since the conflict began in mid-March, the U.S. officials said.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/dafy_eyes_exit_CG0dCmlT82EQKzSom4R4qI">Libya's Khadafy eyes exit
TRIPOLI, Libya -- Moammar Khadafy is ready to leave power, emissaries have told French officials -- the latest sign that contacts were under way between the Libyan leader and NATO members to end the crisis.

"Emissaries are telling us, 'Khadafy is ready to go, let's talk about it,' " French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said, without revealing who the emissaries are. "The question is no longer about whether Khadafy goes but when and how."

NATO powers until now have been focused on launching airstrikes in support of the rebels who are trying to overthrow Khadafy, but five months into the insurrection and with no sign of a breakthrough, attention is switching to a political solution.

"Everybody is in contact with everybody. The Libyan regime is sending messengers everywhere, to Turkey, New York, Paris," Juppe said on France Info state radio.



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jt9oYwXsDdbp2cRiW1jEl04z6P-Q?docId=6069c9a70bbc4916ba621ba0e31204d2">NATO, EU in talks with Libyan opposition
BRUSSELS (AP) — A delegation of Libya's National Transitional Council headed by its diplomatic chief Mahmoud Jibril is meeting with top NATO officials as the allied bombing campaign nears the end of its fourth month.

NATO spokeswoman Oana Lungescu said the meeting would be an opportunity to hear from the Libyan opposition "about how they see the situation on the ground and how they see the way ahead."
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:23 AM
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4. Three more nations recognize rebels, rebels clash with Gaddafi troops, Libya War Helmet Cam
http://www.expatica.com/be/news/belgian-news/three-more-eu-nations-recognise-libya-rebels_162839.html">Three more EU nations recognise Libya rebels
Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands recognise the opposition National Transitional Council as the Libyan people's legitimate representative, the Belgian foreign minister said Wednesday.

"We recognise the NTC as the legitimate representative of the Libyan people during the transition period," Steven Vanackere told reporters before meeting with a rebel delegation along with his Dutch and Luxembourg counterparts.

The delegation, led by NTC leader Mahmud Jibril, held talks earlier Wednesday with NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen and the alliance's 28 ambassadors at NATO headquarters.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43736861/ns/world_news-africa/">Rebels clash with Gaddafi troops south of Tripoli
AL-QAWALISH, Libya — Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi appeared to have launched an offensive on Wednesday to retake the frontline village of al-Qawalish seized by rebels last week.

One rebel fighter said the fighting started after a rebel unit tried to advance to the town of Garyan, which controls access to the main highway leading north into the capital Tripoli, less than 100 km (60 miles) away.

"The other side was ready and they were planning for this," one fighter said.

Another fighter, on the western edge of the city, said: "We ran out of bullets and we had to pull out."


http://gizmodo.com/5819801/this-is-war-watch-the-libyan-revolution-explode-through-the-lens-of-a-helmet-cam—part-i">This Is War: Watch the Libyan Revolution Explode through the Lens of a Helmet Cam — Part I
Humphrey Cheung — Humphrey Cheung worked in tech journalism and IT for years. Then, this spring, he had enough. But instead of switching jobs, he strapped on a digital camera, armor, and flew to Libya. This is what a real rebellion looks like.

What you'll see here is a unique crawl through the battle against Qaddafi from the helmet-mounted GoPro Hero attached to Humphrey—a digital camera imagined for ski slopes and skate parks, not warzones. You'll see rebels fighting not in fatigues and IR goggles, but in jeans and t-shirts. They're not outfitted with anything resembling a modern arsenal, but with whatever they can scrape together. Jeep and tank hybrids, welded together. Scavenged anti-aircraft guns stuffed onto the backs of pickups. Rusty tech refuse that works—most of the time. And you'll see it as the rebels see it every day. Improvised, dirty, and effective—and only possible to see like this because of an age in which you can capture hours of HD footage from a little box on your head.

Today we bring you part one of the Battle of Galaa—the rest will follow every day this week. Below, Humphrey's first-person account of to go with his first-person footage.


Thanks to tabatha for that amazing find about the helmet cam. It's going to be an interesting series to be sure.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:36 AM
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5. Colonel Gaddafi has no place in future Libya – Lavrov
Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov says there is no place for Gaddafi in the future Libya. The statement was made in an interview to the Voice of Russia during Lavrov’s visit to Washington.

In his interview with the radio station Lavrov said that Libyan leader Gaddafi must step down. That view is also held by the Obama administration.

"We support the African Union’s initiative to start negotiations between representatives of Tripoli and the representative of the Benghazi-based Transitional National Council on the understanding that Gaddafi himself of course would not have any place in the future Libya and that Gaddafi himself would not participate in those discussions,” Lavrov said.

However, Lavrov has also criticized the scope of international intervention in Libya. He said that Moscow considers the actions of the allied forces a violation of the UN mandate.

Lavrov stressed that there must be limits to the intervention. What Moscow sees is the West now clearly taking sides in a civil war and extending the conflict.

http://rt.com/news/lavrov-gaddafi-no-future-libya/
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:45 AM
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6. Tripoli Update for June 12th
The following is an update of the latest events in Tripoli by the Free Generation Movement:

1 Two female katiba soldiers injured by two male katiba soldiers in an episode of infighting in Gergarish district. Reason is as yet unverifiable by FGMovement.

2 A vast increase in check points on outskirts of soug al jomaa, fashloum, araada, dahmani, ben ashour, furnag, ein zara. Check points heavily armed.

3 Checkpoint soldiers between Tripoli and Zawiyah excitedly announcing to all drivers that “France has withdrawn from combat”. Todays majority vote in French parliament favouring continued support for Libyan civilians likely a huge morale blow to very same soldiers and remainder of security..

4 Mini exodus from Tripoli as families leave the capital leaving behind the shabab (youth) in anticipation of a new phase. Many youth who are discovering themselves on wanted lists are also escaping the capital.

5 FGMovement confirms continued defections from internal and external security in Tripoli. Now defectors are not abandoning posts in an effort to serve the uprising now and at zero hour.

6 Whilst FGMovement confirmed the vast decrease in regime capacity to monitor phone calls, we still call for extreme vigilance when using mobile networks in regime controlled areas. We have today received verified reports of phone calls being recorded and transcripts being leaked.

7 Rumours of 16 youth in tripoli being arrested have reached us. We cannot verify the reliability or accuracy of this rumour. We confirm that none of the members of FGMovement have been arrested and are safe, well and busy. We wish those who have been kidnapped by the regime protection from Allah.

The Free Generation Movement truly finds inspiring and heart warming all the messages of support and those messages asking us to be careful. We would like to clarify:

We take great pride in the strength of our security here in Tripoli.
Over the last 5 months our security has evolved and developed whereas the regime security has become more weak and fragmented, day by day.
We have no intention of stopping our work for this uprising nor do we intend on leaving Tripoli. The movement will continue to be based in the Capital and will continue to defy the regime until our objective is met.

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/07/tripoli-update-for-june-12th/
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 12:09 PM
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7. Gaddafi's forces launch surprise offensive, retake Qawalish--The Guardian
Gaddafi's forces have retaken Qawalish, but the rebels could seize it back, in a campaign that is beginning to resemble the First world war, writes David Smith.


A rebel official dashed into the media centre in Zintan, in Libya's western mountains, this morning to announce the villages of Qawalish and Ganima had been retaken by Gaddafi's troops just a week after falling into rebel hands.

He believed they were still advancing and was uncertain how quickly. Journalists rapidly consulted maps and wondered whether Zintan itself could be threatened.

Later, at the rebels' military HQ in the mountains, colonel Muhammad Ahmed Khabasha said Gaddafi's forces had launched a surprise offensive early this morning and advanced about 3km, taking both Qawalish and Ganima. But he said around 600 rebels set off from Zintan to face them and soon regained control of Ganima. He did not have casualty figures but said: "We heard Gaddafi troops captured some guys."

Despite the setback, Khabasha, who defected from Gaddafi's army after 34 years, remained confident that the rebels would soon retake Qawalish and move on to Gharyan, the biggest mountain city, and Tripoli itself. "Gaddafi could not defend Gharyan, Gaddafi could not defend Tripoli," he said. "But maybe he will sabotage Tripoli. He's started destroying Tripoli. He's making propaganda for Libyans to fight Libyans."

When I visited Qawalish yesterday there were just eight young men manning a guardhouse at the frontline and coming under regular fire from rockets. But armed with
machine guns, missile launchers and 14.5mm anti-aircraft guns, the rebel force may soon retake Qawalish yet again. As on other fronts in Libya, this inching forwards and backwards, with little sign of momentum, is becoming reminiscent of a First world war quagmire.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2011/jul/13/syria-libya-middle-east-unrest-live#block-14


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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:13 PM
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11. Libya's rebels lose ground along the new front line against Col Muammar Gaddafi

Source: The Telegraph



A rebel advance through Libya's western mountains suffered a significant setback yesterday after pro-Gaddafi forces captured a hillside village that had been held by opposition fighters for just a week.

By Adrian Blomfield, and Ruth Sherlock in Zintan

6:49PM BST 13 Jul 2011



Loyalist troops seized Qawalish after a dawn raid, an unexpected battlefield victory that threw rebel plans of advancing on the strategic garrison town of Garyan, 50 miles south of Tripoli, into disarray.

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Hundreds of rebel fighters poured out of Zintan in pickup trucks, caked in dry mud as camouflage and mounted with anti-aircraft guns, in the direction of the front line.


But although they managed to halt a rapid loyalist advance towards Zintan and force pro-Gaddafi troops to surrender some of their gains, they had not succeeded in recapturing Qawalish by nightfall.

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Although senior rebel commanders denied the existence of any divisions, one Arab fighter blamed the fall of Qawalish on "sleepy" Berber tribesmen who failed to hold the line.


Pointing to another deficiency that is likely to hamper rebel ambitions of advancing in the direction of Tripoli, fleeing fighters admitted that they had been forced to abandon the village after running out of ammunition.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8635738/Libyas-rebels-lose-ground-along-the-new-front-line-against-Col-Muammar-Gaddafi.html




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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 12:11 PM
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8. The difference between the rebels and Gaddafi's troops
The New York-based Human Rights Watch said that in "four towns captured by rebels in the Nafusa Mountains over the past month, rebel fighters and supporters have damaged property, burned some homes, looted from hospitals, homes, and shops, and beaten some individuals alleged to have supported government forces."

The accusations came as rebel forces inside Libya managed to retake a village from Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi 's forces, and rebel leaders were in Europe meeting with NATO officials and the European Commission.

Mahmoud Jibril, chairman of the executive board of the opposition Transitional National Council, said the complaints represent only a "few incidents" that "took place in the very early days of the revolution, and we've been investigating those cases. We are against any human rights violation whomever is the source of those violations." Those responsible are "going to be brought to justice," he vowed.

Jibril spoke at a news conference after meeting with European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso in Brussels, Belgium.

In the news release announcing the accusations, Human Rights Watch said it "witnessed some of these acts, interviewed witnesses to others, and spoke with a rebel commander about the abuses."

"The rebel military commander in the Nafusa Mountains, Col. El-Moktar Firnana, admitted that some abuses had taken place after rebels captured the towns, but said such attacks violated orders issued to the rebel forces not to attack civilians or damage civilian property. He claimed that some people had been punished, but did not say how many people or for what offenses," Human Rights Watch said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/07/13/libya.war/
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 12:14 PM
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9. Italy: Shift in African Union about a Libya without Gadhafi significant for political solution

By The Associated Press | The Canadian Press – 12 minutes ago


ROME - Italy says the shift among some African leaders to discuss a Libya without Moammar Gadhafi is a significant development that should help spur a political resolution to the conflict.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Maurizio Massari said Wednesday there was now a "convergence" with the African Union about negotiating a post-Gadhafi Libya that was "important" as countries involved in the Libya campaign begin to plot next steps on a political transition.


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/italy-shift-african-union-libya-without-gadhafi-significant-165904787.html




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 12:46 PM
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10. Libyan uprising "at crossroads," rebel leader warns EU
Source: Deutsche Presse-Agentur


Jul 13, 2011, 17:03 GMT


Brussels - The uprising against Libyan leader Moamer Gaddafi is 'at a crossroads,' the public face of the rebels' Transitional National Council (TNC) warned during a visit to Brussels on Wednesday - days shy of the five-month anniversary of the upheaval.


'It's up to those lovers of freedom and democracy to pledge their support and exert all types of pressure so the Libyan revolution can prevail,' Mahmoud Jibril told lawmakers on the European Parliament's foreign affairs committee.


'What's at stake is not only the cause of Libya, but the cause of democracy in the Middle East,' he added, arguing that Gaddafi's departure would help shore up the fledgling new democracies in neighbouring Tunisia and Egypt.


Jibril painted a dire picture of the current situation in Libya, saying during an earlier press conference with European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso that 'the magnitude and scope of destruction is beyond imagination.'

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The two sides also reiterated that a political solution must be found to the Libyan crisis.


Jibril later told European lawmakers that he thought 'too many ideas were floating around' on that front. He is hoping for a 'comprehensive initiative' to emerge following a meeting of the international Libya Contact Group on Friday in Istanbul.

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http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/africa/news/article_1650987.php/Libyan-uprising-at-crossroads-rebel-leader-warns-EU




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:30 PM
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12. Russia turns down invitation to join Libya Contact Group discussions in Istanbul Friday

Russia turned down an invitation to join upcoming Libya discussions as part of the contact group of major powers and insisted that all decisions on the conflict be made by the UN.

Turkey had earlier invited China along with Russia to attend a meeting scheduled for Friday in Istanbul.

But the Russian foreign ministry said Moscow had received other such offers and had always turned them down in the past.

We are not a part of this group and do not take part in its activities. And the same holds true for the upcoming meeting in Istanbul - Russian foreign ministry


http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/libya-jul-13-2011-2219




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:38 PM
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13. Tunisia: In Shousha Camp, Stuck in Limbo--"We are dying slowly"
Source: Doctors Without Borders


July 13, 2011


Since the start of the Libyan conflict in February, more than 250,000 people have passed through the transitory camps set up in Ras Ajdir, along the northern Tunisia-Libya border. While the majority have been repatriated to their home countries, nearly 4,000 people, mainly sub-Saharan Africans, cannot be repatriated due to the difficult situation in their country.


VIDEO report (3:58):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLHePNwYtQs&feature=player_embedded




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:54 PM
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14. EU offers support for Libyan transition

Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:59pm GMT


• EU says Libyan rebels gaining credibility

• Offers support for future elections, security reform


By Justyna Pawlak

BRUSSELS, July 13 (Reuters) - The European Union executive offered Libyan rebels help with democratic reforms on Wednesday once their war with Muammar Gaddafi's government was over and said their Benghazi-based council was gaining credibility.

Speaking after meeting a rebel representative, Mahmoud Jebril, in Brussels, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said the EU was ready to assist with organising elections and setting up state institutions in Libya.

"I think this visit is a sign of the growing authority and credibility of the Transitional National Council (TNC) on the international scene," Barroso told reporters.

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The Libyan rebel delegation led by Jebril was in Brussels for two days of meetings with NATO and EU officials to try to shore up international support and discuss political solutions to the five-month-old crisis in Libya.

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http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFLDE76C1GP20110713?sp=true




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:29 PM
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15. Rebel breakthrough: They repulse Gaddafi forces, pursue them back to Asabah



Libya rebels on the march

July 14, 2011 - 5:19AM


AFP

Libyan rebels have repulsed loyalists who had retaken the desert hamlet of Gualish and pursued their enemy to the outskirts of the strategic town of Asabah, where they were shelling it from surrounding hills, reports say.

The rebel breakthrough came as an insurgent commander downplayed talk of a political solution, saying strongman Muammar Gaddafi refuses to go.


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/libya-rebels-on-the-march-20110714-1hefj.html




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:37 PM
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16. Libya rebels break through after retaking Gualish
Source: Radio Netherlands


Published on 13 July 2011 - 6:36pm

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Dug in on the hills above the town on the highway to Tripoli, the rebels were firing heavy and small arms and loyalist troops were responding with Grad rockets, said the correspondent, embedded with the rebels.


Asabah is 80 kilometres (48 miles) south of the capital and is the last barrier between the rebels and the important garrison town of Gharyan.


Earlier on Wednesday, Kadhafi troops had caught rebels off guard and attacked Gualish, which the insurgents had captured last week, seizing nearly all of it.


But rebels poured in from surrounding villages and besieged the hamlet from all sides, driving the loyalists out and chasing them up the road toward Asabah, some 17 kilometres (11 miles) away.

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http://www.rnw.nl/international-justice/bulletin/libya-rebels-break-through-after-retaking-gualish-0




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:58 PM
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17. Libya files 'war crimes' charges against UN SecGen Anders Fogh Rasmussen

Libya's prosecutor general Mohammed Zikri al-Mahjoubi files charges against the secretary general of NATO Anders Fogh Rasmussen of war crimes against Libyans before a Libyan court in Tripoli July 13 (image | reuters)




http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/libya-jul-13-2011-2328




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 03:19 PM
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18. Italy Says No Stalemate in Libya
Source: VoA News


July 13, 2011

Sabina Castelfranco | Rome


Italy’s foreign ministry spokesman, Maurizio Massari, insists the international community is on the right track in Libya and that the next step is for political negotiations to kick off to end the rule of long-time leader Moammar Gadhafi.

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He indicated three priorities for the Istanbul meeting of the contact group: the search for a political solution to Libya's conflict, the identification of economic support mechanisms for the rebels, and a post-conflict plan.


Massari said time is not on Gadhafi’s side.


The contact group meeting is expected to discuss the political conditions needed for negotiations on Libya's future to take place.


The conditions, Massari said, must include the acceptance that Moammar Gadhafi cannot be part of any political solution, the acceptance of dialogue among different Libyan groups, and the need for a cease-fire to be in place because otherwise it is not possible to negotiate.

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http://www.voanews.com/english/news/africa/Italy-Says-No-Stalemate-in-Libya-125508348.html




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 03:43 PM
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19. Will oil bring Muammar Gaddafi down? (Commentary)


Gaddafi's fuel stores are insufficient for the military and civilian challenges he faces. Algeria could pull the rug from under him


Henry Smith
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 13 July 2011 16.00 BST


Despite suggestions of a change in Nato's approach towards the Libyan conflict, particularly the possibility of a negotiated settlement, the outcome may eventually hinge on something much more basic: supplies of fuel .


This was perhaps most visible in Nato's recent strikes on refuelling depots used by loyalist forces near Brega. The most easterly town under Muammar Gaddafi's control, Brega is reportedly the most heavily defended urban centre after Tripoli. Gaddafi's motivation here is clear. If he loses Brega the opposition will gain almost total control of Libya's eastern oil network, with access to a rumoured 2m barrels of stored crude.


But perhaps even more significantly, Gaddafi's deputy foreign minister, Khaled Kaim, last month called on Algerians to provide Libya with fuel. Speaking to an Algerian newspaper, Kaim argued – accurately – that although Libya's domestic refining capabilities have been reduced, UN resolutions do not prohibit the supply of fuel.


Although largely ignored in international media, Kaim's comments betray the strategic importance of overland supplies for both the maintenance of Gaddafi's army and his ability to control domestic civilian pressures. A lack of fuel reduces Gaddafi's ability to conduct his military campaign, which continues on three distinct geographical fronts, but can also exacerbate social tensions among civilians through a lack of transportation, refrigeration and air-conditioning. Social tensions could become a matter of particular concern for the regime during Ramadan, which starts on 1 August.

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Gaddafi's limited domestic fuel stores and crude stocks are insufficient for the military and civilian challenges he faces, making overland supplies from Tunisia and Algeria (as suggested by Kaim) crucial to his position.

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Speculation has swirled regarding the extent of Algerian support for Gaddafi but in the absence of decisive evidence this remains open to conjecture. However, it can be said with certainty that Algeria retains the ability to decisively pull the rug from under Gaddafi's feet, principally by blocking supplies crossing the border at Gadhames – though so far it has chosen not to.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/13/muammar-gaddafi-oil-algeria




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 04:25 PM
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20. Libyan military falling apart? POW's tell of orders to 'shoot to kill' Gaddafi deserters
Re-post--worth watching Wedeman's report:


Added On July 12, 2011

Libyan prisoners of war say their former army is disintegrating. CNN's Ben Wedeman reports (2:18):

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2011/07/12/wedeman.libya.prisoners.cnn



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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 04:57 PM
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21. Ball bearing-filled rockets hit Ajdabiya, four civilians wounded
Source: Al Jazeera



Rebels reclaim Qawalish, just hours after Gaddafi forces had taken the strategically important village.

Last Modified: 13 Jul 2011 21:17

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Al Jazeera's James Bays, reporting from the Nafusa Mountains, said this had been the most testing day militarily for the rebels who first wrested the town from Gaddafi's control just seven days ago.


In other fighting, at least two rockets filled with ball bearings crashed down on the rebel-held eastern Libyan town of Ajdabiya on Wednesday, injuring four people and causing extensive damage to three homes.


Witnesses heard the sound of incoming fire at around 0700 GMT before two large explosions scattered hundreds of metal projectiles, as well as shrapnel, though the air.


At least four civilians suffered puncture wounds and two cars were destroyed in the blasts, which were large enough to knock down external walls, collapse roofs, and punch glass from doors and windows deep into interior rooms.


In the attack blamed on Gaddafi forces, the two rockets hit around one kilometre apart in the busy city centre, the AFP news agency said.

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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/07/201171319645404106.html




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 05:01 PM
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22. LIBYAN REVOLUTION DAY 147: CURRENT TIME IN LIBYA = 12:01 AM THURSDAY, JULY 14
Libya time = EDT +6 hours, PDT +9 hours, UTC +1 hour, GMT +2 hours







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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:02 PM
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23. Libya unrest: Caught in the crossfire with the rebels (BBC)

13 July 2011 Last updated at 18:42 ET


Rebels in western Libya have been thrown into confusion after Colonel Gaddafi's forces staged a day of counter attacks against their lines in the Nafusa mountains.

But despite beating a retreat at one point, the rebels stabilised the frontline by evening, and remain optimistic they will make it to Tripoli by early September.

A BBC film crew travelling with the rebels was caught in the crossfire, as John Simpson reports from Gualish (3:01).


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14147341




CNN's Ben Wedeman and his crew also had a very hairy experience coming under fire with the rebels. CNN has been airing the story, but it's not yet posted online.


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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:18 PM
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24. VIDEO: Libya rebels retake hamlet in heavy fighting (AFP - 1:46)

Published on Jul 13, 2011 by AFP


Rebel fighters on Wednesday recaptured Gualish, a hamlet on the road to Tripoli that Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi's troops seized in heavy fighting earlier the same day.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVbRI9FmMg&feature=player_embedded




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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:21 PM
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25. Libya: Col Gaddafi 'has spent £2.1m on mercenaries'


Details of a deal to recruit 450 fighters from the disputed Western Sahara region have been passed to Nato officials by a former Gaddafi loyalist who was involved in the negotiations before defecting to the rebels.

According to the defector, who has not been named, the mercenaries are being paid $10,000 each to fight for Col Gaddafi for two months. The deal with the mercenaries was arranged last month after serious anti-government protests threatened to overthrow the regime.

The majority of the fighters are reported to be members of the Sahrawi tribe who are based in the Western Sahara, and have been fighting a war of independence against Morocco as members of the Polisario Front.

Col Gaddafi's officials have also recruited scores of fighters from rebel movements in Niger and Mali that have close links with the Gaddafi regime.

In the past Nato officers have received reports that Col Gaddafi has relied heavily on foreign mercenaries to defend his regime, but the documents produced by recent defectors show he is still actively looking to recruit more fighters.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8464254/Libya-Col-Gaddafi-has-spent-2.1m-on-mercenaries.html
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:24 PM
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26. Interesting comment on AJE blog
This is about the killing of African mercenaries at the beginning of the war - there is always more than one side to story.

"And those videos came from Al Bayda...a town in which recruited mercenaries were flown in by the hundreds, given guns, and ordered to kill everyone. The CITIZENS of the town responded to that rampage of rape and killing by taking the law into their own hands...because the "law"...the government of Gadaffi themselves...had sent these butchers upon them. They were not "FF's" at that time. They were simply trying to survive the butchery. Yes, they reacted violently...but everyone of those black mercenaries were sent there by the regime. Al Bayda had no immigrant laborers."

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:54 PM
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27. ChangeInLibya Mhalwes

Mhalwes
ChangeInLibya Mhalwes
I spoke to someone tht just recently defected from the G regime today - he told me some very interesting things. Might tweet tomorrow #libya
24 minutes ago

ChangeInLibya Mhalwes
One thing he kept repeating: "Gaddafi knows the country hates him now, especially Tripoli. He can't buy support as he used to" #libya #feb17
23 minutes ago
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:10 PM
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28. Colonel Gaddafi using "African magic" to prolong his reign –Libyan rebel officer
By Amro Ahmed
Cairo, Asharq Al-Awsat – Libyan rebel officer, Colonel Saleh Mansour al-Obeidi, who defected from the Gaddafi regime to join the Libyan rebels based in Benghazi, informed Asharq Al-Awsat that Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi has resorted to using "magic" in an attempt to confront the rebels and prolong his reign.

Colonel al-Obeidi told Asharq Al-Awsat that Gaddafi is utilizing "African magicians" from Mali, Mauritania, Nigeria, Gambia, and Morocco to help him overcome the rebels. The rebel Colonel claimed that "African magicians" were even being deployed by Gaddafi on the battlefield to provide his soldiers with "magical talismans" that ensure loyalty to the Libyan leader, in an attempt to counteract the wide-spread defection from his military forces. Calling into question the Libyan leader's psychological state, al-Obeidi said that Gaddafi considered "magic" to be like a secondary intelligence apparatus, allowing him to spy on Libyan officials and leaders.

Libyan rebel Colonel Saleh al-Obeidi, who claims to be among the first military figures to have defected from the Gaddafi regime, told Asharq Al-Awsat that "one of Gaddafi's closest aides told me that he was utilizing a Gambian witch who was using magical talisman's and voodoo to prolong his life, and ensure that he is not injured by any rebel or NATO attack." He added that "this witch has provided Gaddafi with a magical talisman which he wears on his cloak so that he is not hit by bullets or hurt in an explosion…and this is why we always see him wearing this cloak. Even when it is extremely hot, he never takes it off!"

Colonel al-Obeidi added that "if we look at pictures of Gaddafi, we can see that he wears a silver ring, and this ring was made of hyena bone, which a significant animal to magicians. This ring was given to Gaddafi by a Mauritanian magician to inspire fear in anybody that deals or meets with him. Somebody close to me said that when he went to meet Gaddafi…he felt as if he had seen a demon. He told me that he began to recite the Quran under his breath , when Gaddafi told him 'why are you reciting the Quran as if you are entreating with a demon?' and he kicked him out."

http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=25730

Gaddafi is nuts, and is a narcissist - cares only about prolonging his life even if it costs thousands of other lives.


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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:11 PM
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29. Will Clinton recognize the TNC in Istanbul?
Source: Foreign Policy (The Cable blog)


Posted By Josh Rogin

Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 12:23 PM


When Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrives in Turkey for the latest meeting of the Libyan Contact Group on Friday, she will be asked to address how the Obama administration intends to help the rebel's Transitional National Council (TNC), which is running out of money and patience.


But what can she say? What will she say?


Four senators are renewing their push for the administration to recognize the TNC in advance of the Istanbul meeting. In a letter to Clinton last week, which was obtained by The Cable, they argued that the TNC's expanded inclusiveness and its new territorial gains make the case for recognition stronger. What's more, they said that diplomatic recognition was the best way to release the more than $30 billion in frozen Libyan assets that the rebels desperately want.

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Over the past days, the White House has been considering the issue of extending diplomatic recognition intensively. We're told that there has been both a Deputies Committee meeting and a Principals Committee meeting in recent days to discuss what to do about the TNC. We don't know what the decision was, or if one has officially been made, but Clinton will likely unveil that information in Istanbul on Friday.


What's clear though is that the administration is in a bind, and one of its own making. They haven't recognized the TNC officially, which is the prerequisite for releasing some or all of the frozen Libyan assets to the TNC. The administration has come close, saying that the TNC is "the legitimate and credible interlocutor for the Libyan people." But that doesn't equal an official recognition, and doesn't allow the TNC to get their hands on the funds.


So far, 26 countries have recognized the TNC, including France, Britain, Spain, Germany, Italy, Turkey, and Canada.

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http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/07/13/will_clinton_recognize_the_tnc_in_istanbul




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:19 PM
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30. EXCLUSIVE: CNN crew caught in Libyan firefight (4:48) - Ben Wedeman reporting
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:01 PM
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31. Factbox - International recognition of Libya's rebel movement




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At least 25 countries have publicly recognised the NTC as legitimately representing the Libyan people.

Others have implicitly recognised the Council as a political force, for example by visiting its leaders in its Benghazi stronghold, or hosting them for talks, but have stopped short of fully recognising it as representing the Libyan people.


RECOGNITION OF NTC AS REPRESENTING LIBYAN PEOPLE

Australia

Austria

Belgium

Britain

Bulgaria

Canada

Croatia

Denmark

France

Gambia

Germany

Italy

Jordan

Kuwait

Latvia

Luxembourg

Maldives

Netherlands

Panama

Qatar

Senegal

Spain

Turkey**

United Arab Emirates

United States*

RECOGNITION AS OF NTC LEGITIMATE POLITICAL FORCE

China***

Malta

Russia****

Sources: Reuters, official government websites

NOTES:

* A May 23 State Department note called the NTC "a credible and legitimate interlocutor for the Libyan people." In June 9 comments to journalists in Abu Dhabi, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton described the Council as "the legitimate interlocutor for the Libyan people during this interim period."

** Turkey first recognised the National Council as a legitimate representative of the Libyan people in June. However officials said that did not mean it was the only representative of the Libyan people, and they made the same qualification after Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu repeated this position on July 3.

*** Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi described the NTC diplomatic chief Mahmoud Jibril as an "important dialogue partner" during Jibril's trip to Beijing in June.

**** Mikhail Margelov, President Dmitry Medvedev's special representative for Africa, met Libyan rebel leaders in Benghazi in June.

(Compiled by Mark John; Additional writing by David Cutler, London Editorial Reference Unit)


http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/13/uk-libya-rebels-recognition-factbox-idUKTRE76C4CO20110713




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:18 PM
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32. Libya to Investigate Whereabouts of 105 Orphans
Source: SOS Children's Villages Canada (press release)




13/07/2011 - In Tripoli, yesterday, the government of Libya announced plans to investigate the whereabouts of 105 orphans believed to have travelled abroad.


Libyan Social Affairs Minister, Ibrahim Sharif, has expressed his concern over the welfare of 105 orphans from the Libyan city of Misrata. The orphans, he says, may have been taken abroad.


Yesterday, Mr. Sharif told media representatives in Tripoli that the government had launched an investigation into the whereabouts of 52 boys and 53 girls residing at a state-run orphanage in Misrata.


Anecdotal evidence suggest the children might have boarded a ship carrying refugees out of the country – which ship, if this is the case, remains to be determined.


“Some witnesses have reported seeing them on board a Turkish boat, others say it was an Italian boat, others still a French boat,” said the Minister.


These reports have been supported by a Misrata doctor’s report to government officials that the orphans were taken to either France or Italy.

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There are an estimated 70 daily causalities in the city. About 40 per cent of the 1,200 people killed and 8,000 injured since February are civilians, some of them children. Children have also suffered mental anguish as a result of the violence.


In 2007, relief workers from the charity known as Zoe’s Ark attempted to transport 103 war-affected children from Chad to France. The charity said that the children were orphans from the Darfur region of Sudan. Later, it was discovered that almost all of the children were Chadian in origin.

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Aid workers may often have the best intentions at heart when attempting to bring vulnerable children to safety. But, the transport of children across a country and across international borders without authorization is a serious offense that leaves children vulnerable to human trafficking.


Parents are usually a child's first line of defense. As such, the issue of human trafficking or smuggling in children remains a critical child protection issue, especially for orphans, who tend not to have someone to act on their immediate behalf.


http://www.soschildrensvillages.ca/News/News/orphan-charity-news/Pages/Libya-Investigate-Orphans-066.aspx




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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:57 PM
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33. Exposing Gathafi’s Agenda for Libya
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 12:04 AM by tabatha
Whenever we thought that we have gotten Gathafi all figured out a whole new dimension of his deep and dark mindset stretches even further into the abyss of human depravity and blatant misanthropy. This man proves time and time again through his language and actions that his heart and mind are full of malice despite his assertions to the contrary. Along with his reputation for reveling in the misery and suffering of others he clearly delights in assaulting the hearing of others with offensive words and slews of epithets. Gathafi’s insolence and his penchant for violence continue to inflict pain and suffering on others inside and outside of Libya. Just as we thought that he is humbled by the horrible predicament that he is in nowadays, he had the audacity to threaten Europe with terrorism. He is doing this not to show toughness in the face of his looming demise but to bring the wrath of the European States on Libya in order to drag the country into a horrible fate with him. No matter how hard he tries to ignite a regional conflict Libyans and Europeans are way more civilized than he gives them credit for and therefore would never descend to his level of blind hate and deplorable machinations.

Speaking of Gathafi’s warped machinations an example of that would be his designs for Africa and the Arab world. As is normally the case in Gathafi’s way of reasoning he in his writings always starts with what he describes as manifest destinies then lumbers down to the details till he reaches the cusp of his illogical schema. For example he asserts the inevitability of Arab unity then he retraces his logic all the way back to why Arabs need to unite in the first place. He also insists that Africa would unite and that black Africans would predominate the world or as he writes in his green book (Assud sayasusdun al-‘Alam) then he turns his attention towards building his case for unity and Africans’ impending superiority over all other human races. This type of thinking along the line of the Machiavellian aphorism “the ends justify the means” led to his many dangerous mishaps for which the Libyan people had to pay dearly with their lives and resources. When his plans to unite with Egypt fell apart he started the border war of 1976 that cost thousands of lives on both sides. His determination to unite Africa no matter what, has been weighing heavily on Libya and her people ever since he penned his vision for the future of the continent in his infamous green book. His latest call to wage a worldwide Jihad (holy war) to liberate Cecily, the Eternal Islands (al-Juzur al-Khalidat) which are located off the coast of Morocco and also Spain and his threats to launch suicide missions in Europe show that he has been thinking of igniting a conflagration that would engulf both sides of the Mediterranean even before the Libyan February 17th Revolution.

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If any one doubts that he or she should revisit Gathafi’s words and actions just to see for themselves. Along with his speeches in which he disparages Libyans as unworthy and undeserving of his leadership he deliberately ruined the country’s medical care so that Libyans be they young or old were dying of curable diseases. He, in abid to expedite the process of his systematic genocide even had over 400 children in the city of Benghazi deliberately infected with HIV in 1998 then accused five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor of the crime. Beside the devastating war with Chad starting in 1978 that cost thousands of young Libyans’ lives, Gathafi’s involvement in the Uganda-Tanzania war in support of “His Excellency, President for life, Filed Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada” (talking about Gathafi’s multiple titles) in the same year along with the Lebanese civil war which erupted in 1975 resulted in the unnecessary deaths of thousands more. While the intentional destruction of a Libyan airliner in 1992 led to the death of all 158 passengers on board, Gathafi was behind the massacre of over 1,270 Libyans in the infamous Abu Salim prison in the capital Tripoli. The death and destruction being visited upon the Libyan people since the start of the Libyan February 17th Revolution and that had so far claimed the lives of more than 15,000 Libyans not to mention thousands of severely injured and amputees should leave no doubt regarding this war criminal’s designs to destroy Libya and her people.

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=47165
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 12:17 AM
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34. Rebels-in-waiting
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 12:24 AM by tabatha
Although they do not appear to have been involved on the front line, the boys are clearly being trained to operate the weapons.


Training: The boys strip and clean the guns in a base in Misrata

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2014236/Libya-Children-young-7-trained-fight-Gaddafi.html#ixzz1S3OMTBl0

(Geez - if Dads are busy in shops and kids are not at school, what better training to use shop machines. With so many guns around, it is better to be educated than to play around with them and get killed.)

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 12:26 AM
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35. Criminals Released in the Streets in Hopes they Support Gaddafi.
As much as unbeleivable as this may seem, Prisons in libya have been emptied in exchange that the prisoners Support Gaddafi.

The recent Events of Mercenaries that were employed by gaddafi to stifle our populations revolt, was used against our people.

In this Footage, the man breaks down when he begins to mention Africans becouse of the recent events he witnessed and the actions Gaddafi took against our people.

The release of prisoners is a desperate Diplomatic Decision of which Gaddafi took to gain popularity.

These men were convicted criminals who were judged by the Criminal court for whatever crimes they commited.

Yet, their released in our populace. It is only a matter of time, before they are given arms and finance to create Chaos.

http://youtu.be/hKygmfyAXD8
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:02 AM
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39. Here's a video of money found on these kind of people, it's old outdated money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l2MTGzPkiY

I'm not sure if you posted it or not before.

Give a mercenary money right before they head off to fight, tell them it's their days pay, they get themselves killed. It's a very dark and cruel joke. But the rebels get blamed.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 02:32 AM
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36. Clinton kicks off global tour with Libya talks

By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press – 22 minutes ago


WASHINGTON (AP) — The volatile situation in Libya will be the first item on U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton's packed agenda during her latest around-the-world diplomatic tour.


Clinton departs Washington on Thursday for Turkey, where she will attend a meeting in Istanbul of senior officials from the more than 40 nations supporting NATO's operation to protect Libyan civilians.


The fourth meeting of foreign ministers from the so-called Contact Group on Libya will be looking not only at stepping up pressure on Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi to leave power, but also boosting support to the cash-starved opposition Transitional National Council.


Clinton has participated in two previous Contact Group meetings at which the countries represented, including the U.S., have moved to formalize ties with the council and provide it with financial and other assistance. The Obama administration has delivered humanitarian aid and has been working for weeks with Congress to free up some of more than $30 billion in frozen Gadhafi regime assets in U.S. banks to support the council. But, much to the council's disappointment, Washington has not yet recognized the group as Libya's legitimate government.

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jrp7MS25zC4TGpDwkCkszh1CBUyA?docId=b45a209876fa45c3a0081d363b5783ee




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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 03:31 AM
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37. Libya rebels retake village south of Tripoli
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/13/uk-libya-idUKTRE76C1H420110713">Libya rebels retake village south of Tripoli
Rebel fighters said on Wednesday they had retaken a village south of the capital they lost to forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi earlier in the day, boosting rebel plans for a march on Tripoli.

The retaking of Al-Qawalish, about 100 km from Tripoli, came at the end of a day of bitter fighting that killed five rebels and wounded 15, according to rebel sources and hospital officials.

The back-and-forth fighting underlined the fragile nature of the rebels' advances in the west that has led some of their Western backers to push for a political solution to the conflict.

Rebel spokesman Abdurahman Alzintani said pro-Gaddafi forces had been pushed back to where they were before they took the village earlier on Wednesday, or perhaps even further.


This was posted in LBN (not the exact source) but I didn't see it posted here. They lost Al-Qawalish, and it shows that Gaddafi's forces are not particularly hardened to fight, the western mountain fighters are very much so at this point in time.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 08:46 PM
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51. dupe
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 08:47 PM by joshcryer
nevermind, tabatha posted it lower down, about the captured troops, not sure how I missed it
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 03:38 AM
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Why we're fighting for a better Libya
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/fighting+better+Libya/5099227/story.html">Why we're fighting for a better Libya
Twenty thousand martyred, another 50,000 ' injured."

That was the answer given, via translator, to the question I posed to Dr. Mustafa Abdul Jalil. The chairman of the National Transitional Council said it matter of factly. That is the number of Libyans believed killed or hurt at the hands of a man who calls himself their Brother Leader.

Roughly the same number of people call Sarnia, Ont. home.

Later, meeting with Abdul Jalil's National Transitional Council (NTC), I asked the group: Who knew someone who had fallen victim to Colonel Gaddafi and his thugs in recent days? Thirty or so people raised a hand. Each had lost a relative, a neighbour or a friend.


Good read.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 03:38 AM
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38. France Agrees Funding to Bring End to Gaddafi's Libya
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 03:39 AM by joshcryer
http://www.christianpost.com/news/france-agrees-funding-to-bring-end-to-gaddafis-libya-52275/">France Agrees Funding to Bring End to Gaddafi's Libya
Libyan political and revolutionary headman Muammar Gaddafi is ready to step down from his position of power, according to Alain Juppe, French minister of foreign affairs. On Tuesday, legislators voted to increase funding that would enable the French military in Libya to end upheaval in the country.

The French National Assembly voted 482 in favor of extending the French military in Libya with 27 against it. When taken to the Senate, 311 votes passed the ruling with 24 people in opposition.

François Charles Armand Fillon, prime minister of France, said a solution to end the violence in Libya could be near. According to Reuters, the French prime minister is being backed by Russia and the African Union.

“At its last summit, the African Union confirmed that Gaddafi would not be able to take part in the political transition," Fillon said.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 08:52 AM
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40. Libya: Col Gaddafi has 'suicide plan' to blow up Tripoli
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 09:12 AM by tabatha
Mikhail Margelov, in an interview with the Russian Izvestia daily, said: "The Libyan premier told me: if the rebels seize the city, we will cover it with missiles and blow it up."

Mr Margelov met Libyan Prime Minister Baghdadi al-Mahmudi last month.

"I imagine that the Gaddafi regime does have such a suicidal plan," he added, saying that Gaddafi still had plentiful supplies of missiles and ammunition.

But Mr Margelov, who has had rare access to senior Libyan officials, questioned reports that Gaddafi could be running out of arms in the drawn-out conflict.

Gaddafi had still not used a single surface-to-surface missile, he argued

"Tripoli theoretically could lack ammunition for tanks, cartridges for rifles. But the colonel has got plenty of missiles and explosives."

Mr Margelov met the Libyan prime minister on June 16 in Tripoli after holding talks in Benghazi earlier the same month. He has not met Gaddafi himself.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8636883/Libya-Col-Gaddafi-has-suicide-plan-to-blow-up-Tripoli.html

Here is GH's comment:
the big part of daffis heavy ground to ground missles are destroyed by air in the early days ,the b1 b2 from us destroy alone 150 targets.over 200 cruise missles and around 1500 jet attacks do most of the rest.


Update:
Published on 14 Jul 2011 ShareCanada: Gaddafi to destroy refineries on withdrawal
Muammar Gaddafi has ordered his troops to blow up refineries and other facilities if they have to retreat, the Canadian head of the NATO mission over Libya said today.Lieutenant General Charles Bouchard said he was unable to confirm any plan by Gaddafi to demolish the capital Tripoli if the revolutionaries captured it, as reported by Russian envoy Mikhail Margelov in the Russian newspaper Izvestia.“However, I can report that the Gaddafi regime has given direction to its forces to destroy certain facilities as they withdraw back, such as fuel refineries and other aspects,” he told Canadian-based reporters in a call from Italy, where NATO’s Libyan operation is based.He added the caveat: “Just because Gaddafi has given a direction does not mean that direction is being undertaken by his own troops. We’ve seen a fair bit of his troops, of his generals, surrendering, of his troops abandoning their posts.”He said he did not know of any plan of the magnitude of demolishing government buildings and infrastructure in Tripoli.On the same call, Canadian Defense Minister Peter Mackay said Libya was a test for the NATO alliance.“It’s a conflict that is going to require a determined, persistent, unified approach. Those are all watchwords when it comes to how NATO will continue with its effort,” he said.


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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 11:57 AM
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41. Libya rebels find landmines after Gaddafi troops flee
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 11:58 AM by tabatha
AL-QAWALISH, Libya, July 14 (Reuters) – Libyan rebels ran into a minefield when they recaptured a frontline village from Muammar Gaddafi’s forces, they said on Thursday, providing fresh evidence government troops are using mines in the uprising.

Rebel mine-clearers showed Reuters a pickup truck with a mounted anti-aircraft gun they said had been destroyed by an anti-vehicle mine during a rebel assault to recapture the village of al-Qawalish, which was briefly seized by Gaddafi’s troops on Wednesday.

New York-based Human Rights Watch, in a report released last month, said it had found evidence pro-Gaddafi forces have laid dozens of landmines in the same Western Mountains region where Al-Qawalish is located.

“These anti-personnel landmines pose a huge threat to civilians,” Steve Goose, arms director at Human Rights Watch, was quoted as saying in the report.

http://shabablibya.org/news/libya-rebels-find-landmines-after-gaddafi-troops-flee
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 06:17 PM
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42. Al-Jazeera: Gaddafi set to face new attacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSCn6G3IlsU

Rebels may stage mass armor attack on Brega imminently.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 06:23 PM
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43. It is in process.
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 06:26 PM by tabatha
Freedom Fighters Set-Off to Retake Brega, 14/7/2011.



There seems to be major developments tonight and through the night. It is believed there will be a statement tomorrow #Libya #Brega
Message to Libyan tweeps and others providing info,it is requested from Benghazi & Brega to keep silent on info until tomorrow (cont) #Libya
http://liveword.ca/libya/author/libyan-youth-movement/
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:53 PM
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47. Al Jazeera Blog: The "Push" is underway.
5 hours 15 min ago - Libya


Anita McNaught, Al Jazeera's roving correspondent in the Middle East reports:

"We are beginning to hear from our people with contacts in Ajdabiya that 'The Push' is underway and battle has been engaged.

Skirmishes along the coastline from Ajdabiya.. about 40kms we estimate.. have resulted in 4 opposition fighters injured and one dead (this from good hospital sources).

There is agreement that at the moment Gaddafi loyallist forces are in retreat and are gathering in a place called Bishr, 20kms on the Western side of Brega.

The goal remains Brega. The opposition fighters want to take it, and hold it. They are not at this point intending to move further."

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/libya
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UnseenUndergrad Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:28 PM
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55. News
Apparently, it's been repelled. Either those Belorussian mercs are tough SOBs or Tripoli Moussa's been in the spiked Nescafe.

14 Minutes 18 Seconds Ago - Libya

Libyan forces repelled a coordinated attack by NATO forces and rebels against a strategic oil town in the east of the country, the government spokesman said on Thursday.

The announcement came as Libya also barred Italy, one of the country's largest investors, from its oil sector because of Rome's role in the NATO airstrikes.

Moussa Ibrahim told journalists that rebel forces attacked the town of Brega backed by NATO forces in the sea and air in a coordinated attack that he said violated the alliance's UN mandate to protect civilians.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/libya
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:44 AM
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56. Moussa Ibrahim cannot be believed.
He said that Misrata had been retaken or something to that effect.

I do not believe that Gaddafi's forces can counter NATO. But, tomorrow will reveal what has happened.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:57 AM
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62. Libyan rebels close to Brega
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/mondo/articoli/articolo1015614.shtml">Libyan rebels close to Brega
09:31 - The Libyan rebels are about to conquer the oil city of Brega, in Cyrenaica, now in the hands of the brigades loyal to Muammar Gaddafi. According to reports from the Al Arabiya satellite television, the rebels conquered the area of Bab al-Arbayn, located halfway between Ajdabiya and Brega, and are advancing toward the port city, which could fall by today.


We'll see if this pans out.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 06:24 PM
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44. Some students in Nafousa mountain areas are already returning to school No more green book
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 06:30 PM by tabatha
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 06:36 PM
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45. Libyan rebels capture demoralised Gaddafi troops
The youngest was Issa Yousef, 17, a student and steelworker of Malian origin who joined a month ago. Speaking through an interpreter, he said: "They said we'll give you money when this attack has finished: 1,000 dinars (£500) a month and Libyan citizenship." He never saw either.

One night last week the group was sent to the village of Qawalish, about 60 miles south of Tripoli, to face the increasingly confident rebels of the western mountains. They said they joined around 200 government troops and were armed with Kalashnikovs. But they claimed that, because of their race, they were treated differently and denied other equipment.

When rebels launched a surprise attack on the village the following morning, the men were lost in the confusion. "We didn't know who is Gaddafi army and who is revolutionary," one said.

They said they gave up their Kalashnikovs without a fight. They had been well treated by their captors, they added, although it was impossible to verify this independently.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/14/libya-gaddafi-troops-demoralised-prisoners-of-war
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:13 PM
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46. Video: The Mental Toll of Libya’s War
Benghazi Psychiatric Hospital has seen a rise in new patients with post traumatic stress from the ongoing battles in Libya.

http://feb17.info/media/video-the-mental-toll-of-libyas-war/
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:55 PM
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48. Not Libya - but worth noting.
Patrick Laurence obituary
South African political journalist staunchly opposed to apartheid



Patrick Laurence, whose dedication and courage during a career spanning five decades made him one of South Africa's most respected journalists, has died aged 74 from a brain tumour. A physically imposing man – well over 6ft tall, rail-thin, with a long bushy beard – he was best known internationally for having twice been arrested for his political reporting.

His first arrest, in 1973, was for interviewing Robert Sobukwe, the leader of the ANC-breakaway organisation the Pan Africanist Congress, which, like the ANC, was a banned group under the apartheid regime. The second, in 1991, just weeks after the release of Nelson Mandela, came because he refused to divulge to the police his sources for a report he had written on the disappearance of a key witness in the trial of Winnie Mandela on charges of kidnapping. Bail was granted, but the following day a protest by journalists was nonetheless accompanied by the slogan "Free Laurence of Azania", prominently spray-painted on to a blank wall.

There was never any question where Patrick's sympathies lay: with the victims, not the masters, of apartheid. Nor about his personal hopes for his country's future: non-racial, democratic, governed by the rule of law. But he was a journalist of the old school. He always saw himself as a reporter, not a polemicist.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/14/patrick-laurence-obituary?CMP=twt_gu
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 08:33 PM
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49. Libyan Revolution Day 148 updates below, current time in Libya, 3:33am Friday, July 15
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 08:34 PM by joshcryer
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 08:41 PM
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50. U.S. sees Libya pivot point in anti-Gaddafi struggle
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/14/libya-meeting-clinton-idUSN1E76D25420110714">U.S. sees Libya pivot point in anti-Gaddafi struggle
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrived in Turkey on Friday for a Libya conference marked by growing hopes the international campaign to topple Muammar Gaddafi is nearing its goal and rebel forces can mature into a legitimate government.

Clinton will confer with leaders of the NATO-led coalition to assess the political road map for Libya's future and discuss further steps to support the Benghazi-based National Transitional Council (TNC), officials said. .

"Countries are starting to look past Gaddafi. He's going to go, and the meeting can be a useful place to take stock of and prepare for that transition," one senior U.S. officials told reporters aboard Clinton's plane before landing in Istanbul.

"That's the way we're thinking about this meeting: trying to see it as a pivot in this process."

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 08:50 PM
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52. This Is War: Watch the Libyan Revolution Explode through the Lens of a Helmet Cam — Part 3
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 08:53 PM by joshcryer
http://gizmodo.com/5821186/this-is-war-watch-the-libyan-revolution-explode-through-the-lens-of-a-helmet-cam—part-3">This Is War: Watch the Libyan Revolution Explode through the Lens of a Helmet Cam — Part 3
Our building hopping strategy was working well until the rebels were pinned down by a sniper or marksman. Bunch up against the outside wall of a house, the rebels peeked around a corner and almost had their heads taken off by bullets. Impacting a building behind us, the bullets ripped out chunks of concrete from the exterior. Bryan Adams went inside the house to peek at the sniper from an inside window, but was almost hit as well. "Very dangerous," he exclaimed as he retreated from the house.

The rebels would spend the next twenty minutes firing AK47s back at the sniper and finally called in the pickup tank to finish the job.


This series is fascinating, what is unfortunate, imo, is that the author appears to be saving all of his footage for some other project, which I'll watch of course, but we're not seeing the best parts, by far.

edit: CJ Chivers has http://cjchivers.com/post/7610544805/a-photo-from-the-latest-battle-of-qawalish">something to say about these young men fighting without weapons. But he'll "riff on them later." It's true, it's crazy the heart and courage these young men have, fighting without weapons.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 08:55 PM
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53. US Wary of Gaddafi Peace Feelers
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/US-Wary-of-Gaddafi-Peace-Feelers-125608693.html">US Wary of Gaddafi Peace Feelers
Senior U.S. officials say they’re skeptical of hints from Libyan emissaries to Europe that besieged Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi may be considering giving up power. The officials traveled with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to a meeting of the international “contact group” on Libya in Turkey.

A senior State Department official says while there are “a lot of straws in the wind” about the Libyan leader perhaps giving up power, the United States is not persuaded that any of the signals are definitive, and it is holding to its insistence that he cede power.

The official spoke to reporters traveling to Turkey with Clinton amid recent reports attributed to various Libyan emissaries to Europe that Mr. Gaddafi may be ready to give up all but ceremonial posts in Libya, or in another scenario, transfer power to one of his sons in a transitional arrangement.


As well they should be...
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:04 PM
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54. Antiaircraft Missiles On the Loose in Libya
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/15/world/africa/15libya.html">Antiaircraft Missiles On the Loose in Libya
GA’A, Libya — Five months after the armed uprising erupted in Libya, a new round of portable antiaircraft missiles — weapons that governments fear could be obtained by terrorists and then fired at civilian jetliners — have been slipping from storage bunkers captured by rebels.

In February, in the early stages of the uprising, large numbers of the missiles slipped from the hands of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s government as the rebels established control over eastern Libya and the ammunition depots there. The leakage resumed recently with rebel gains here in the western mountains, which opened up new ammunition stores.

The new leakage of the missiles, which are of the same type that officials in other African nations have said have already been trafficked over Libya’s borders, underscores the organizational weakness of the forces opposed to Colonel Qaddafi; it also raises concerns that if more Qaddafi depots fall to the rebels, then further stocks of the weapons could become accessible to black markets.

Signs of the diversion are readily visible here, at an ammunition depot captured late last month from the Qaddafi forces after repeated NATO bombings.

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:49 AM
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57. Closing in on Tripoli
http://www.economist.com/node/18958461?story_id=18958461&">Closing in on Tripoli
IN PUBLIC parks in rebel-held eastern Libya the removal of the “Brother Leader” has become a game played by children. They roll a giant rubber die, then skip after it across a printed plastic sheet on a prescribed route from Benghazi via Misrata and the Nafusa mountains to Tripoli, the capital, where a grinning Muammar Qaddafi sits on bags of money on top of a crowded prison. A player explains, “If you fall on Qaddafi’s forces you have to go to his jail. Get the rebels to free you.”

In reality, the task is a little trickier. Yet the rebels are making good progress. The front lines are moving in one direction only: slowly but steadily towards Tripoli, where the colonel is believed to be.

Several thousand rebels in the Nafusa mountains south of Tripoli have changed tactics in recent weeks from defensive to offensive operations. They have advanced into the Jifarah plain, capturing the power station at Shakshuk, and pushed to the outskirts of Bir Ghanam, 80km (50 miles) from Tripoli. The current front line runs through a gypsum factory. In the daily exchanges of fire the rebels use newly acquired European-made Milan anti-tank missiles. Helped by NATO air strikes, they have captured villages near Zintan and are planning to attack Gharyan, a well-fortified gateway to Tripoli, despite setbacks.

Farther east, near Misrata, the front line has moved 36km closer to Tripoli and within 10km of Zliten, the biggest city on the road to the capital. The rebels, who have sustained heavy casualties, expect when they enter Zliten to repeat the house-to-house combat that won them Misrata.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:20 AM
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58. Libyan opposition seeks more support
http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/cae69a7523db45408eeb2b3a98c0c9c5/Article_2011-07-15-Libya-Diplomacy/id-86f1990cd2b24cd990b968a8f240721c?utm_source=dlvr.it&">Libyan opposition seeks more support
ISTANBUL (AP) — Delegates from nearly 40 countries seeking an end to the Libyan conflict met in Istanbul on Friday to discuss more financial aid and diplomatic support to Libya's main opposition group as the rebels struggled to defeat Gadhafi-loyal forces.

Senior U.S. officials have said the Obama administration is preparing to strengthen ties with the Transitional National Council once it presents detailed plans for a democratic, transparent and inclusive government as it becomes increasingly clear that the Council will govern a post-Gadhafi Libya.

The council is expected to lay out plans for moving forward during the meeting of the Contact Group on Libya and seek more financial aid as well as diplomatic recognition. However, there was uncertainty whether the presentation would satisfy concerns that the initial post-Gadhafi regime represent the full spectrum of Libyan society: all regions, all tribes and all political parties.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:49 AM
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59. Chavez urges Gaddafi to resist
http://www.timeslive.co.za/africa/2011/07/15/chavez-urges-gaddafi-to-resist">Chavez urges Gaddafi to resist
"There is Gaddafi resisting. Until when will this outrage last?" Chavez said at a meeting of his ministers. Part of the event was broadcast on the state television network VTV.

"Libya is a country of free and restless people that responds only to itself, and not the interests of the empire. Long live Libya and its independence!" Chavez proclaimed.

Chavez routinely describes the United States as "the empire".

"European leaders," he then said, "take care of the crisis that you have within."
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:25 PM
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73. Shows hot out of touch Chevy is. nt
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:51 AM
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60. NATO chief: Libya exposes Europe's dependence on US power
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=47188">NATO chief: Libya exposes Europe's dependence on US power
The NATO mission in Libya has laid bare Europe's ever growing dependence on US military might to carry out operations, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said in an interview.

Rasmussen warned that shrinking defence budgets across the continent could make it harder for Europeans to respond to future crises and lead to their decline on the global stage.

"I think the Libyan operations is an example that there is a potential for strengthening what you might call a European pillar within NATO," the Danish former prime minister said.

Although Europeans and Canada provide the majority of combat jets in the operation, he said, they lack the key intelligence and surveillance aircraft that only Washington possesses.


The icing on the cake of this whole thing would be for NATO to disband, forcing us out of Iraq and Afghanistan sooner rather than later.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:55 AM
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61. In Gadhafi's Tripoli, Libyans Cautiously Voice Dissent
http://www.npr.org/2011/07/15/137822225/in-gadhafis-tripoli-libyans-cautiously-voice-dissent">In Gadhafi's Tripoli, Libyans Cautiously Voice Dissent
The Libyan government maintains that the capital, Tripoli, is a stronghold of support for leader Moammar Gadhafi.

The government routinely organizes pro-Gadhafi demonstrations, and state-run TV channels keep up a steady flow of videos that portray Libyans as victims of NATO aggression.

But for reporters who manage to slip away from their government minders, pockets of opposition aren't hard to find.

The dissidents say opposition to the government is widespread, despite a state security crackdown that keeps them in a constant state of fear and distrust.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:00 AM
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63. Libyan Rebels Fall Back After Failed Advance
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=14075280">Libyan Rebels Fall Back After Failed Advance
Rebels in Libya's east say they have fallen back after a failed advance on the oil town of Brega that left one fighter dead.

Fighter Abdel-Hamid Badein said Friday that rebels advanced on the town only to be pushed back by Moammar Gadhafi's troops. After the Thursday clash, rebels returned to their positions farther east.

Rebel military spokesman Ahmed Bani said one rebel was killed and eight injured.

The Libyan government Thursday described the rebel advance as "a full-scale attack" and said it was repelled.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:27 AM
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66. I also read that there is a break
to bury about 100 mercs.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:57 AM
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64. Demo in Sabha (western mountains):
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:58 PM
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71. Sabha in the South, or is there a Sabha in the Jebel Nafusa too?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:16 AM
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65. Video surfaces from phone of Gaddafi loyalst as they camp out on Misrata buildings terrorizing...
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:14 PM
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72. Bad url
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:29 AM
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67. Gadhafi regime declared no longer legitimate
ISTANBUL (AP) — More than 30 nations, including the United States, on Friday declared that Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi’s regime is no longer legitimate and formally recognized Libya’s main opposition group as the legitimate government until a new interim authority is created.

The decision will keep up the military pressure on Gadhafi and potentially free up cash that the rebels fighting Libyan forces urgently need. The front lines in the Libyan civil war have largely stagnated since the popular uprising seeking to oust Gadhafi broke out in February. Rebels, backed by NATO air force bombers, control much of the country’s east and pockets in the west. But Gadhafi controls the rest from his stronghold in Tripoli, the capital.

In Friday’s final statement following a meeting of the so-called Contact Group on Libya, the nations said: the “Gadhafi regime no longer has any legitimate authority in Libya,” and Gadhafi and certain members of his family must go.

The group said it would deal with Libya’s main opposition group – the National Transitional Council, or NTC – as “the legitimate governing authority in Libya” until an interim authority is in place.

The recognition of the Libyan opposition as the legitimate government gives foes of Gadhafi a major financial and credibility boost. Diplomatic recognition of the council means that the U.S. will be able to fund the opposition with some of the more than $30 billion in Gahdafi-regime assets that are frozen in American banks.

http://shabablibya.org/news/gadhafi-regime-declared-no-longer-legitimate
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:31 AM
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68. Act on oil now to stop future Gaddafis
The Libya contact group must push for transparency to prevent leaders treating oil resources like a personal piggy bank

The 40-nation Libya contact group is meeting the Interim National Transitional Council to decide how best to support the rebels against Muammar Gaddafi’s forces. Top of a fairly extraordinary agenda will be how to unfreeze Libya’s assets so that its oil revenues can flow to the insurgents.

But negotiators must also look beyond their immediate objective, and recognise that they are presiding over an unprecedented opportunity to ensure that these flows benefit the people of Libya. If they are serious about laying the foundations for long-term peace and stability, transparency in the oil sector is the right place to start.

One of the clearest lessons from the Arab spring is that a lack of transparency over how a country manages its resources helps keep dictators in power, and creates the conditions for new ones to emerge. It’s what allowed Gaddafi to exert his stranglehold over the Libyan oil sector and what enabled the collusion of foreign companies and banks in his doing so.

http://shabablibya.org/news/act-on-oil-now-to-stop-future-gaddafis
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:12 PM
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69. Libya rebels lose three men in Brega assault
By AFP
AJDABIYA LIBYA

Libya’s rebels stepped up an assault on the eastern oil town of Brega on Friday, claiming good progress although three rebels were killed at the front and scores more returned wounded.

A day after launching a three-pronged attack from Ajdabiya, the strategic town 80 kilometers (50 miles) further to the east, the rebels said they had captured one of Muammar Qaddafi’s soldiers and 10 vehicles.

“There is fighting taking place to the north (of the main road between Ajdabiya and Brega) and the south and the middle,” said spokesman Mohammed Zawi.

“We are making good progress in the north. The fighters there can see Brega. We are within sight of Brega,” Mr. Zawi said.

Radio chatter from Colonel Qaddafi’s forces showed them asking for reinforcements and for people to come and collect the dead and wounded in the north.

Mr. Zawi said rebel troops were also making “solid progress” in the south.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/07/15/157780.html
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:13 PM
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70.  Libya rebels breach Brega: spokesman
Agence France-Presse Posted at 07/16/2011 7:23 AM | Updated as of 07/16/2011 7:23 AM

Mohammed Zawi, a spokesman for the rebel army, told AFP a group of reconnaissance troops had entered the city from the north, then pulled back four kilometers (2.5 miles) before midnight (2200 GMT).

BENGHAZI - Libya's rebels said a light mobile force had breached the strategically vital oil town of Brega late Friday, before pulling back in anticipation of a renewed offensive at daybreak. The probing raid deep into Kadhafi-held territory came around 32 hours after the rebel command launched a three-pronged attack to wrest control of the town back from Moamer Kadhafi's troops, who were thought to have numbered around 3,000."Most of Kadhafi's troops seem to be at the centre," said Zawi.

While the rebels' forward position to the north was four kilometers from the town center, a second unit attacking from due east of Brega faced stiffer resistance and was about 10-20 kilometers (six to 12 miles) from the town. Rebels were trying to dispose of more than 100 landmines placed around the town, to make way for heavy artillery. Earlier the rebels said radio chatter from Kadhafi's forces in the north showed them asking for reinforcements and for medics to come and collect the dead and wounded.

To the south of the town, where the rebels had made initial gains but suffered large numbers of casualties, Kadhafi forces had pushed back harder. With fighting in the dusty and windy desert terrain difficult, Zawi said he expected fighters on both sides to dig in for the night and for clashes to slow. "Tomorrow we can take Brega, God willing," he said. Brega, nestled at the southeastern tip of the Gulf of Sirte, has changed hands multiple times during Libya's civil war, which soon enters its fifth month. In recent weeks the rebels have been holed up at a forward position 40 kilometers (25 miles) from both Brega and Ajdabiya, inching forward and clearing mines so their handful of T-72 tanks and infantry fighting vehicles can have a freer rein.

http://egyptday1.blogspot.com/
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 12:58 PM
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74. Week 22 here:
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