What the Hell was that? The GOP trying to see how much of SS and Medicare they could steal?

[icymist]

They caved in too easy. Don't let these bastards off of the hook that easily. They were up to something, and they almost got the American Tea Baggers going for it, to change SS and MEDICARE. This had to be a test for some future project, otherwise, why such a fight? And with something that a Presidential decree would remedy? What were these guys testing the waters for?

Don't expect me to answer right away for I am at the end of my day and ready for sleep. (I work nights)

[aquart]

1. Could you provide a link or specific reference?

When you awake?

[jtown1123]

2. Who caved? This is not resolved.

[icymist]

3. What the hell was all that on Racheal Maddow last night?

About the Rebublicans giving in to the President about the dept ceilieng?

[icymist]

4. Okay, go to this address and get to this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5VO7fxupGo

Press on the program GOP surrenders to econimic reality

Sorry I can't do much more, but you will see what i mean.

[jtown1123]

5. I'm watching the news now and all reports are that there is still gridlock

They are meeting at 4 today.

[icymist]

6. The News. Yes.

I was up all night and saw Sen McTurtle, I mean McConnell say just that, That Obama could raise the debt ceiling per executive order. he pretty much said that all of the so=called 'demands' about cuts that equal the amount in debt raising would be 'suggestion'. So like I asked, What was that?

[jtown1123]

7. Here's a pretty good overview of what McConnell is proposing via Bob Reich

McConnell's plan would allow the president to raise the debt limit. Congressional Republicans could then vote against the action with resolutions of disapproval. But these resolutions would surely be vetoed by the president. And such a veto, like all other vetoes, could be overridden only by two-thirds majorities in both the House and Senate -- which couldn't possibly happen with the Democrats in the majority in the Senate and having enough votes in the House to block an override.

Get it? The compromise allows Republicans to vote against raising the debt limit without bearing the horrendous consequences of a government default.

No budget cuts. No tax increases. No clear plan for deficit reduction. Nada. The entire, huge, mind-boggling, wildly partisan, intensely ideological, grandly theatrical game of chicken miraculously vanishes.

Until the 2012 election, that is.

http://www.salon.com/news/debt_ceiling/?story=/politics/war_room/2011/07/13/robert_reich_mitch_mcconnell

[icymist]

8. That acutually makes sense.

Why then. all the hoopla from Maddow to make this seem that there is more? Why would she lie?

[jtown1123]

9. Oh I don't think she lied, she probably didn't have all the info yet

[icymist]

10. We will see.

Remember, I told you I work midnights. That is where I first heard of this story on msnbc. I'm afraid I'm going to leave tis conversation. I must sleep now.