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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:21 PM
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50,000chickens die in heat wave in NC
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:22 PM
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1. Think before you eat
that morning egg or that Sunday chicken roast.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:24 PM
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2. So horribly unnatural for them to be all shoved together like that.
I'm so glad I'm a vegetarian and 'wish everyone was so this hideous factory farming would end.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:11 PM
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15. I have eight free range chickens
that are happy, but even they are feeling the heat.

I see them looking enviously at the ducks in their pool...but you can't get a chicken to get wet lol.

If my eight are unhappy in this ungodly heat - but still able to go where they want. I shudder to think of those trapped thousands in tiny boxes.

My girls can go wherever they want and have their shady hideyholes.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:24 PM
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3. I should really go veggie again. It was less convenient, and I was constantly harassed, but I felt
better, and I wasn't contributing to so much suffering.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:14 PM
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25. you will get used
to the harassment... wise choice
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:19 PM
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29. ...
:thumbsup:
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:30 PM
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33. It's getting much easier.
I can't remember being in a restaurant recently that didn't offer at least one veggie option. That's a big change from 10-15 years ago.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:26 PM
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4. Power was off for an hour as hot as it has been all week and today
and all those birds cramped up in such a confined space, no air circulation, it could only end badly.


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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:29 PM
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5. If your power was off for an hour
......

censoring myself here....

If *my* house lost power for an hour, I would not die.

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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:48 PM
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10. Ever seen how big a factory chicken house is? Those chickens are stuffed in there!
Fans circulate the air, they need electricity, not sure if they have any kind of air conditioning (I doubt it) but if they did, AC needs electricity also.

Imagine you being trapped in a metal building with temps around 100+, no air circulating, perhaps thousands of people crammed inside with you.

I hope you were being sarcastic.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:17 PM
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20. The chickens are piled upon one another in tiny shelves.
If you saw a chicken house, most likely you would never eat another factory egg or chicken.

It is truly horrifying.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:26 PM
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22. If it was off in my area and yours as well
I have to wonder if it's even worse than they said for the chickens and the turkeys.

NC is big chicken farming territory.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:00 PM
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24. No outages in my neck of the woods but we've had our fair share
we used to have extremely frequent outages but I think they've been doing some upgrading and it's no where near as bad as it used to be. My home is nothing like a factory chicken house and there's only 3 or 4 of us (wayward kids come home every now and then)and a small dog living here at any given time. No comparison. If power goes out, we can always go outside, free to take a shower, even pile in the car and check on friends next town over. That's what we did when the tornadoes plowed through and power was out for a couple days.

Factory chickens have no options.

Google has some images of factory chicken and turkey houses for anyone who's never seen one or drove past one. It's easy to imagine how fast heat builds up in a metal building. With no air circulating, usually no trees shading them, extreme heat and humidity and the hundreds if not thousands of bodies in close contact with each other spells death.

Still I wonder why there was no back up generators available for emergency use. No water sprinklers either. I have no idea what happens when a big hurricane blows through. You'd think there would definitely be some back up power or farmers could be looking at total losses. I guess they just don't care and like someone else mentioned, perhaps turn the loss into their insurance companies.

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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:06 PM
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28. You are so right.
The chickens have no options.

And I know those buildings of which you speak...I drive by them daily and several Tyson plants as well.

My nightmare is getting behind a semi hauling chickens to slaughter...I usually just pull over.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:18 PM
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26. conditions are horrendous
for these birds, even when all systems are up!!



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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 08:00 PM
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34. I don't know what I was thinking when I posted that.
My apologies.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:29 PM
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6. On the financial side, since Tyson (whoever) probably owns the birds
will they get the insurance settlement? Are the farmers protected financially when this happens?

And I agree, factory farming sucks.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:21 PM
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21. Good question...
Tyson is huge around here.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:35 PM
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23. Depends on the type coverage they purchased -
- if they have blanket coverage on the poultry as "stock" or if they have coverage for damage/loss due to electrical outage, then they're covered less their deductible.

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:30 PM
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7. One of the best books I have read... was Diet for a New America by the heir to the
Baskin Robbins ice cream empire.


http://www.amazon.com/Diet-New-America-John-Robbins/dp/0915811812/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310606947&sr=8-1
This well-documented expose of America's "factory farms" should prompt even die-hard meat-and-potatoes lovers to reevaluate their diets. Asserting that "we are ingesting nightmares for breakfast, lunch and dinner," Robbins, who is medical director of the California Institute for Health and Healing, details how livestock is raised under increasingly industrialized conditions by "agribusiness oligopolies." Grazing and foraging have given way to debeaking, tail-docking, dehorning and castration, and treatment with pesticides, hormones, growth and appetite stimulants, tranquilizers and antibiotics which, in turn, are assimilated by humans.

The author correlates our "protein obsessed" society with a higher incidence of arteriosclerosis, osteoporosis, cancer and other degenerative diseases, as well as freakish occurrences like premature puberty from estrogen contamination. As Robbins debunks nutritional myths perpetuated by the powerful meat and dairy industries (indicting as well his family's Baskin-Robbins ice-cream empire), this is sure to prove controversial. Photos not seen by PW.
Copyright 1987 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.
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dhill926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:48 PM
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11. great book.......
read it over 20 years ago, and have been vegetarian ever since.......
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:37 PM
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8. Factory farming is unnecessarily cruel and straight up immoral.
Mercy for Animals is about the only organization advocating against factory farming as far as I can tell. This stuff punches a hole in my heart. :cry:
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:13 PM
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17. Amen. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:42 PM
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9. That's terrible
I wonder if it will affect food prices.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:56 PM
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12. Does that mean that next week the supermarkets will have
bags of chicken for 39 cents/pound?
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:12 PM
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16. Mmmm...
if so, I would give it a wide berth...;)
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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:00 PM
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13. Some suspect fowl play
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:14 PM
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19. Tsk tsk
or do I mean tuck tuck.
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Springer9 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:10 PM
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14. More and More we are reliving the economy and weather
of the 1930's. Depression and heatwaves and drought killing the farm animals.

Can the Worlds Masters be getting ready for WW3 to fatten their wallets on the backs of us suckers?
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:14 PM
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18. That is horrific.
The domestic chicken is descended from the red jungle fowl, which is a bird of tropical climes, and can normally withstand summer heat and humidity. But NOT when they are packed together so tight they can barely move! I'm not against keeping chickens for eggs and meat, but I despise factory farms. It's all about disregard for the animals' welfare in the name of boundless greed.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:21 PM
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27. It is horrific.
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 10:22 PM by cwydro
Watching my free rangers and their favorite thing to do is stretching...we laugh about the leg and wing stretches, because it is so cute. They do it frequently and they also like to sit on their sides and just chill. We call it side-sitting...but it is a natural chicken thing to do in the heat, take a dust bath and stretch out.

Factory chickens can't stretch or eat grass and bugs and run around annoying the house cats...I love my chickens. Believe it or not, they have distinct personalities and are very sweet; they like attention like any animal.

Breaks my heart to drive by all the factory farms here - they are all around us.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:21 PM
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30. however will they be able to pay medical bills in North Carolina?
:rofl:

Just reminded me of the Michele Bachmann assertion on paying bills with chickens.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:25 PM
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31. Broiler chickens. Seems sort of ironic, doesn't it?
But then one could always consider going vegetarian and not supporting this sort of cruelty*.



*I know a great number of folks carefully choose where their meat comes from, and try their best to choose humane options. This does not apply to you.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:27 PM
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32. Excellent.
Georgia used to be #1 poultry state, especially in N GA. Those critters ned AIR to grow and live before we fry or roast them. ;)
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 08:18 PM
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35. that's a lot of medical procedures
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