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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:16 PM
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Wall Street Journal - "Karl Rove: Obama Owns the Debt-Ceiling Fiasco"
More eye candy for the Tea Party lurkers who seek blame Democrats, and Give Republicans a free pass. Here is Karl Rove, surprise, blaming everything on President Obama, and not on Republicans who are throwing each other under the bus as Cantor attacks Boehner who attacks McConnell who is also attacked by Demint regarding the proper Republican response to the impending default.

Yet, here is Karl Rove saying that President Obama has been too partisan and shrill in pandering to his base.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304911104576443863077227784.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


The president wants a $2.4 trillion debt-ceiling increase to get him past next year's election—and the deal he's proposing is based on promised future cuts paired with substantial tax increases on households earning more than $250,000 a year.

House Speaker John Boehner proposed matching a debt-ceiling hike with substantial spending cuts. The Congressional Budget Office estimates federal spending at $46.1 trillion over the next 10 years, a dramatic escalation from projections before Mr. Obama took office. Mr. Boehner's modest proposal was to trim that back 5.2% over the decade, but the president balked.

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Mr. Obama has offered no evidence since becoming president that he wants to restrain the upward trajectory of government spending. He does want higher taxes to pay for significantly higher federal spending. But he wants Republicans to deliver the tax increases, since Democrats couldn't pass them last year despite controlling both chambers of Congress.

Republicans have wisely declined. Demanding the GOP vote for immediate tax increases that would be offset by vague, future tax cuts conjures up images of Charlie Brown, Lucy and the football. The tax increases would be real—the future tax rate cuts would be imaginary. And Mr. Obama has opposed any serious spending enforcement mechanisms, such as a balanced budget amendment or hard caps on spending.

His tone also hasn't helped achieve a comprehensive agreement. The president's two most recent press conferences, in which he accused the GOP of foot-dragging, convinced Republicans that he was interested in scoring political points and attracting independents, not facilitating a deal. Convening high-profile White House meetings without offering substantive concrete proposals and then having his aides leak madly (and inaccurately) to the press afterward further squandered trust.

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:19 PM
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1. WSJ - Murdoch rag
karl Rove - Murdoch water carrier. That is all.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 12:48 AM
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18. Yep. And as simple as that. +1
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:19 PM
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2. Karl's trying to rally the troops, even as the generals are wetting their pants.
McConnel, Boner, and pretty much the entire Republican leadership aside from Eric Cantor seem to recognize the large and unstopping freight train that is the debt ceiling, and they're now realizing that they've put themselves in front of it, one way or another.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:19 PM
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3. Rove is a
propagandist, as most people know. He's good at it.

However, the fact that he is a professional in that field then puts anything he says at question, i.e., self-negating.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:20 PM
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4. The GOP is no one to talk about "tone".
Disagreement with Bush resulted in condemnation with the usage of 9/11 as cover for their rape of the taxpayer.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:22 PM
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5. "His tone" translated... do I even need to translate?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:25 PM
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6. LOL!
Karl, dumb as those Wall Street idiots who funded you are, they do know who done it.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:27 PM
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7. that's the rupert murdoch wall street urinal....who else would give rove a platform
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:27 PM
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8. Wonder who this murdoch Rag Hcked today
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:27 PM
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9. Karl Rove said it. It must be true!
n/t
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:28 PM
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10. propaganda works
they use it like a bat, we just tuck nuts and cluck
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:33 PM
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11. Fuck you, Rove.
These asshole repukes are like little brats who play with something, break it, then blame everything on anyone else.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:35 PM
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13. i'm waiting for the day the teabaggers turn on karl...they'll eat him alive
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:34 PM
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12. Nice to see that all that excess GOP money has messed up the GOP party and they no longer
can say whether the tax cuts or debt reduction is the most important thing. May this lead to a split between the teabaggers and the rest of the gop. And may Obama be the spike that separates them. LOL!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:45 PM
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14. GOP so brazen now they're ignoring their rich business buddies that want this uncertainty gone
Karl Rove makes it out as if Obama wanted to have this conversation. In fact, Obama started out on the idea that nothing extraneous would be done in regards to the debt limit. It would be simply be raised as it has many times before, and we'd get on with life. Instead, the GOP decided to trot this "issue" out as if it's something catastrophic, and linked increasing the debt ceiling with spending cuts.

Now we live in a world where the news media reports with seriousness that ratings companies (you know, the same ones that said mortgage-backed securities were AAA) are considering lowering the US credit rating simply because of the uncertainty over the debt. Rove talks as if this is nothing more than a political issue, but if this continues it will spill out worldwide beyond these little hissy fits going on in DC.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:49 PM
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15. So karl was in on these meetings? I did not know that....
:sarcasm:
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:53 PM
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16. News Corp is that you???
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:25 PM
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17. Your paper's days are numbered, KR! Murdoch is goin' down!!
Let's hope he takes you with him.
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 12:51 AM
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19. Karl Rove - you partly own the war in Iraq.
And come out of the closet already.
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