Wow...some in the MSM are using a "textbook" approach

[PCIntern]

to this horror...

"We don't know why"
"Senseless"
"Deranged"
"Mentally ill"
...and my favorite in this case: "We're not sure that he really wanted to target the congresswoman - he may have just seen a crowd of people and started firing." Or words to that effect.

Fortunately, this is not Dallas in 1963 and the Sheriff seems at least at this point, to be truly 'on the case'. As KO pointed out last night, it is remarkable for anyone in law enforcement at the Sheriff's level to have called attention to the bigotry and hatred in his own jurisdiction. That being said:

Immediately after the twin towers were struck, there appeared on TeeVee a few supposed witnesses who were remarkably competent to report what they had observed, one of whom, and I'll never forget this while watching the unfolding, unspeakable tragedy, spoke in layman's engineering terms about how and WHY the buildings collapsed almost as though he was reading from a prepared statement. It was just sofa king weird at the time...I couldn't get it out of my brain...Here, we have 'reporters' who are listed as 'contributors' (WTF does THAT really mean?) who are talking about the mental state of a man WHO HAS NOT SAID A WORD AS FAR AS WE KNOW. To anyone...but these folk claim that they have him all neatly diagnosed and the case will be closed in a day or two unless...Uh-oh...unless they find the second guy (my guess is that he'll be 'found dead', or like the umbrella man in Dallas, he'll be used as a comic foil during an otherwise viscerally upsetting hearing/trial or Kangaroo-court-of-public-opinion.

I awakened this morning to CNN's coverage and was appalled by the suppositions with no evidence which the 'anchor' and the 'reporters' were making. It was just disgraceful: they were making crap up out of whole cloth with the usual, "it seems" and "perhaps".

First of all, this is not "senseless". You can bet your bottom dollar that it MAKES SENSE to many folk and they're real proud and happy about this on many levels. Secondly, "We don't know why"? Yes we do, he shot at people to kill them, to destroy, in small part, civilized discussion and to some minor extent civilization as we know it. Don't believe me? Has this country been the same since 9/11? Who won THAT 'exchange'? Third of all, "Mentally ill"? Diagnosis by high school yearbook pic and My Space page? Now that's a clinical certainty...

We've seen this time after time: all the (attempted and successful) assassinations, the Oklahoma City nightmare, the Iraq War, and others too numerous to list. The fourth-rate media is going to be used to set the tone, and it will be up to a relatively few influential individuals to see the reality thru the forced wearing of the rose-colored glasses.

BTW...where's McCain in all this? He's got a big mouth...he put out a statement, but for a change, we haven't seen him, or at least I haven't seen him, in front of his beloved TeeVee cameras. He shows up for everything...but not this...interesting.

[WinkyDink]

1. Totally concur. The concerted spin is dizzying.

[rbrnmw]

2. Cut me a break

he may have just seen a crowd of people and started firing."

Utter bull-shit

[spanone]

22. good luck with that one...the fbi director said the congressperson was the target.

massive bullshit

[IDemo]

23. BS

"a volunteer for the event told the Arizona Daily Star that the gunman asked to speak to Giffords"

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ap-az-suspect-former-classmate-described

[H2O Man]

3. Recommended.

The corporate media goes largely by script.

The sheriff told the truth, making it difficult for the media. I appreciate his honesty.

[AspenRose]

4. If you look at the clip of the women of The View talking about Sarah's ad

Whoopi mentioned at the beginning that McCain said that Sarah's rhetoric is nothing to be concerned about and that politicians do it all the time.

Yeah, that cowardly piece of shit is hiding.

[malaise]

5. Their problem is that witnesses are now talking

and he targeted Gabby Giffords.
More than a few media hacks are accessories to this slaughter. RW rhetoric has consequences and it hardly matters if those listening to them are mad.

sp

[upi402]

6. "RW rhetoric has consequences" I agree

People are easy to fool. Advertisers, Fox, CNN, and RW radio trade on it.

[RKP5637]

8. Yep, there's big MSM money in promoting hatred and violence 7x24 on

air and cable. The 'real' terrorists in this country, some of the MSM, get a free pass and lots of $$$ in the process. I certainly believe in free speech, but with that IMO goes responsibility for the consequences of inciting violence across the country. And a number of politicians fall in this same category IMO.

[malaise]

10. Police have made it official

Congresswoman Giffords was the target.

[leveymg]

7. The Right does no wrong in America. That's the narrative the MSM must protect, even at the cost of.

looking stupid or naive.

The American Right doesn't commit political assassinations of Democrats -- that's done by crazy nihilist gunmen and Marxists.

The American Right doesn't sit on its hands and withhold information CIA files from the FBI as they watch terrorists prepare to hijack and ram airliners into 'symobolic structures in DC and New York."

No, the American Right doesn't do that. Gut Mit Uns.

[WinkyDink]

11. Don't you know? AMERICA is "Center-Right"! And no decent AMERICAN would be like this guy!

[malaise]

9. Candy is spinning away on CNN

Fuck you ReTHUG hack

[Jamastiene]

12. I thought I was the only one that disagreed with the Myspace

diagnosis. Things are not as they always appear on a Myspace page. Geez, I posted some weird blogs on Myspace back in the day just for the fun of it. None of my shit was violent or anything, just tripped out enough to make quite a few people (who didn't know me) think all sorts of things. It protected me at the time in the situation I was in.

Most seemed to agree all day yesterday that they guy MUST be schizophrenic. I saw where some people were saying he had taken drugs. Depending on the drug and how much is taken, sometimes it can cause people to ramble in such a way and can cause symptoms temporarily that do resemble schizophrenia.

You know what? Not all schizophrenic people go out and blow people away, nor do most schizophrenic people even dream of that sort of thing. Quite honestly, many schizophrenic people are scared shitless of what they have to endure from inside, the mental illness, itself, and from outside, from people who judge the hell out of them when they don't have a fucking clue what it is like.

I still don't get the automatic conclusion by most people that the guy MUST be mentally ill. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? The guy killed a bunch of people. Some people in this world are NOT mentally ill, yet they kill people. They are just mean asses.

Mental illness is not a requirement for mass murder. It is not. No one can convince me otherwise. Why people always assume mental illness is to blame for the mass shootings is beyond me. Sometimes people are just evil fucks who are hellbent on doing something hideous. Mental illness is not a requirement to become a mass murdering fuckhead. Trust me. It's not.

I'm still pretty pissed off that every single time some jerk goes and kills a bunch of people, we hear "loner" and "mentally ill" right off the bat. It sticks and everyone assumes. I have yet to see a link to a document where this guy had ever been diagnosed with any mental illness. Yet, so many people, the majority, keep repeating it as if it is just fact and nothing else is possible.

Sometimes, people are just fucking murdering assholes. Mental illness is not ALWAYS to blame in these cases. Yet, it's always the first thing out of people's mouths.

No wonder the mentally ill still feel so much damn stigma in our society. Some jerk kills a bunch of people and everyone around automatically assumes he must be mentally ill. Most mentally ill people aren't fucking murderers. It just pisses me off. No damn wonder the stigma is STILL there for mentally ill people. It's time to admit that sometimes these shooters that do these things are not mentally ill. They are just fucking hateful murdering assholes.

Ok, I'll stop ranting now before DU stages an intervention and I get a ping pong ball duct taped in my mouth and doctors with shiny needles and a jacket with sleeves that button in the back comes to take me away, because I dared point out that not all mentally ill people dream of blowing people away and not all people who blow people away are mentally ill.

God help me for daring to posit that little tidbit of an opinion, when the majority has clearly determined this miserable murderer MUST absolutely be mentally ill. I tried all day yesterday to reason with people who had it all figured out.

I do have one question for those who swear up and down he MUST be mentally ill: Is it even a little bit possible that the guy is not mentally ill, but just a mass murder?

Donning flame protection suit now.

:rant:

[PCIntern]

13. No flame from me...

you are on the mark AFAIC.

[jdlh8894]

14. Agree. If he was just targeting one person-

Why did he keep on firing?

[Enthusiast]

15. Nice post and plus one. nt

[RKP5637]

17. +1000 +++ n/t

[musette_sf]

21. +1

[RKP5637]

16. The MSM often pulls their in depth analyzes out of their butts! I heard

similar crap since the shooting and my reaction was WTF. These supposed MSM analysts climb out of the woodwork and the rest of them make up shit. IMO it's very difficult to get factual information from the MSM. The only one I've heard to date that has his head in gear was the sheriff, and he was impressive.

[DemReadingDU]

18. The kid was angry

But what if the alleged accomplice actually is found and investigated. It might be the alleged accomplice was able to motivate the angry kid to go shoot off the gun towards Giffords, someone the alleged accomplice wanted shot. I want the real details to come out, not shuffled under the rug.

[Suji to Seoul]

19. eye witnesses state he ran up to Gabby, pulled out his gun, fired, then turned on the panicked crowd

MSM needs to get grow a spine and buy a clue.

This was an assassination attempt.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. MSNBC is dong far less spin

but the corpos have a problem. Second Amendment remedies look exactly like this. They might sound "cool" to the media, but the end result is this.

I expect more of this by the way... 2011 I suspect, will be a cross roads year.

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