What makes someone an "ardent" Obama supporter these days?

[uponit7771]

I support Obama, I only agree with 85% of what he does (Obama promise meter avg) and I like facts so I don't just make shit up about him to bash him with or when he does something I don't like compound it with half truths.

Does that make me an "ardent" supporter?

Your take?

Thx

[provis99]

1. If you agree with 85% of what Obama does, you're an ardent supporter.

Heck, I'd call you a fanatical supporter around DU...

[uponit7771]

2. That's his promise meter avg....so, what he promised he'd do I'm for it for the most part

[Lisa D]

3. If you plan to vote for him

in the primary and general election.

[MineralMan]

4. Well, for Jane Hamsher, an "ardent supporter" of Obama is

anyone who writes two sentences that don't call for a primary opponent or his defeat in 2012, if not sooner. Definitions vary from person to person.

[jtown1123]

5. I don't think that's it. I think she refers to people who, back to the creation of the Fiscal

Commission, to the chained CPI to the offering to raise the Medicare age, never questioned that he may not have their best interests.

[MineralMan]

6. I believe you are incorrect.

Jane Hamsher has consistently attacked President Obama since the earliest days of his campaign for office. She has been an unremitting opponent of him on a consistent basis, and sponsors others who also attack him on every issue by publishing their mewlings.

Jane Hamsher does not want President Obama to be President. She has never wanted him to be President. Therefore, an "ardent supporter" is, for her, anyone who supports him in any way. Jane Hamsher is no friend of the Democratic Party. I believe she would prefer the Republicans to be in power if she cannot have someone who is a Socialist in the office of the Presidency. Since that is impossible, she effectively supports Republicans.

See my signature line.

[jtown1123]

9. Did she support Hillary?

[MineralMan]

17. Well, Hillary blogged on FDL. So I'll leave it up to you

to decide. But, the reality is that Hamsher stopped supporting her, and went on the attack against her, much as she has done with Obama. There was no candidate sufficiently far enough to the left for her. Such a candidate does not exist - at least not one capable of winning a Democratic nomination. Jane Hamsher does not like Democrats. It is that simple. What she does like is something that is irrelevant, since nobody of whom she approved could ever be a viable candidate for the Presidency.

Jane Hamsher is irrelevant politically. She attracts attention from a tiny minority of the left half of the country. Her rice bowl is filled by catering to that minority's taste in politics. In a nation of 300+ million, it's possible to make a nice living by catering to a tiny minority. Look a Ralph Nader. He's been capitalizing on it for a long, long time.

But, Jane Hamsher is irrelevant, other than being a thorn in the side of reality progressivism. Annoying but not that dangerous, in the end. As with other thorny things, one can simply step around her and avoid being scratched.

[Kind of Blue]

21. Thanks for the analysis. Could nott have

said it better! :thumbsup:

[jtown1123]

11. Fair enough. I didn't know or hear about her until last spring (2010)

It doesn't really rile me up too much what she says. I have a lot of criticisms of President Obama myself, which is maybe why what she wrote didn't rub me the wrong way. I wouldn't say or write something as nasty as she did, but that's her prerogative.

[seabeyond]

7. you motherfuckin obomobot. just sayin... nt

[JTFrog]

8. .

:spray:

:rofl:
:rofl:

[JuniperLea]

16. Damn straight!

[Safetykitten]

10. Is the poster over your bed, or on the back of your bedroom door? It's important.

[seabeyond]

13. my boys were part of the election. disappointed in kerry loss they got a sticker on their wall

and we have some tshirts. i wanted to make a win fun for them

are they obomabots?

[yurbud]

12. It's not about Obama. It's whether we fix damage of Reaganomics and crony capitalism

and make the systematic changes that would make it difficult to occur again.

Without that, we are at the mercy of bankers, Wall Street ponzi schemes, and every oil company that gets a boner to invade a Middle Eastern country.

More war and more economic hardship are inevitable if Obama and Democrats don't neuter at least some of the bad actors.

[damntexdem]

14. I want to like and support Obama, as I did in 2008, through primaries and election.

But I now find it hard; and I cannot accept cuts to SS or Medicare, and dislike even going along with Repuke framing that they should be in the debate, or "on the table." Any actual "deal" that would attack them would mean I would not vote for Obama in 2012.

Does that make me an Obama hater?

[muffin1]

15. Imo, you are an "ardent" supporter if:

You once hated rendition, indefinite imprisonment, pointless wars, tax-cuts for the wealthy, slashing important social programs, and putting Social Security cuts up for discussion, but are now okay with those things because it's Obama doing them.

[CakeGrrl]

18. And therein lies the problem. Hyperbole.

A couple of flaws, IMO, in your assessment:

1. The assumption that ANYONE is actually OK with those things.

2. The continuation to frame those things incorrectly despite numerous explanations. Some of the solutions to dealing with this stuff aren't black-and-white, yet there's a refusal by some people to see it any other way.

[muffin1]

19. So, you didn't look at things in black and white between 2000-2008?

When Bush went into Iraq and everyone here went batshit - did you tell folks to "hold on" and "look at all sides"?

Did you admonish those who were pissed when Bushco performed renditions? How about when he started playing games with Social Security? Did you do nuance then?

[Major Hogwash]

20. If you announce online on ANY forum that you are going to vote for Obama in 2012,

then you just might be an ardent Obama supporter.

If you registered as a Democrat back in the 90s, but let your registration expire since then and re-registered as a Democrat last year just so you could vote for Democrats, then you just might be an ardent Obama supporter.

If you look both ways before crossing the street in any town in America on any given day, with hopes of seeing President Obama coming down that street, then you just might be an ardent Obama supporter.

If you think longer than 5 seconds before rushing to the DU forum to announce to the entire world that you agree with what President Obama just said on teevee, then you just might be an ardent Obama supporter.

If you have ever thought of shaking the hand of the President simply because he is the President of the United States, and you didn't even think of bringing any Purell with you, then you just might be an ardent Obama supporter.

If you ordered a coffee cup at an online store that had President Obama's long form birth certificate imprinted on the side of that coffee cup, then you just might be an ardent Obama supporter.

If you have ever wondered what it would be like for almost 30% of the people living in the same country you were born in, to hate you just because you are black, then you just might be an ardent Obama supporter.

[MrDiaz]

22. Let me ask you a question first

Can you give me your top 5 reasons on why you hated Bush?