Hacking Scandal: Key Figures

[Uncle Joe]

If you're not familiar with the details, the BBC has a nice list of the main players in this growing scandal from perpetrators to victims.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12296392

[malaise]

1. It's pretty good but the Guardian is the owner of this entire

exposure

[Uncle Joe]

2. Kudos to the Guardian.

:thumbsup:

[malaise]

5. Here's a nice link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/14/phone-hacking-arrests-timeline

[Uncle Joe]

8. That is a nice link.

Peace to you, malaise.:hi:

[Jefferson23]

3. K&R.

[Uncle Joe]

4. Thanks, Jefferson

It's one of those links when four paragraphs just can't capture the essence.

[midnight]

6. some have launched legal actions against the paper or the police for allegedly failing to investigat

"More and more celebrities and public figures have alleged their phones have been hacked and some have launched legal actions against the paper or the police for allegedly failing to investigate." This is very troubling... Because if it is happening in England it is happening here.....

[Uncle Joe]

7. Well in regards to the question of it happening here, it would certaily tie in with the often

repeated Conservative dogma; that the American People have no right to privacy.

Murder victim
Milly Dowler, killed in 2002, was an alleged target of phone hacking. A lawyer for the Dowler family said the alleged hacking dated from a time when the NoW was under the editorship of Rebekah Brooks. The Dowlers have since called on Mrs Brooks to resign. Speaking through their solicitor, they said they thought she should "take responsibility and do the honourable thing".

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Family of Soham murder victims
The parents of murdered Soham girls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman are among those contacted by police investigating phone hacking. It is believed the families were warned there was evidence to suggest they were targeted by Glenn Mulcaire.

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[sabrina 1]

13. That case was really criminal. As I understand it, they

deleted voicemails leading her family to believe she might still be alive, and I'm sure the police also.

Not only was that cruel, but it hindered the investigation. Rebekah Brooks was given way too much respect and looking at news reports, society pages, she was viewed as someone for women to emulate. And not just in Murdoch's papers.

Something has gone very wrong when people who are clearly without ethics continue to be treated, here, with that kind of deference. Rumsfeld, Rove, Bush, Dick Morris, Cheney et al. I wonder if it were not for the influence of Murdoch here, would things be different in that regard?

[Uncle Joe]

14. Exactly, it was without conscious and in regards to your question, I believe

things would be dramatically better for the vast majority of the American, British and Australian Peoples, not to mention the rest of Earth as well without Murdoch's malignant influence.

I could never lay my finger on the stark contradiction of Republican Conservative dogma repeated incessantly by the corporate media, in particular Murdoch's holdings, that A. "Big government" was bad and B. "The people had no right to privacy."

This lays out the marker exactly as to where today's conservative PTBs stand, mega corporations should dominate a weak government so that in turn the corporatists can dominate the people.

[sabrina 1]

9. Thank you Uncle Joe.

It looks like the deal to buy Sky is off completely now. I wonder what will happen to what Murdoch already has invested in it?

The goal at the moment in Britain seems to be to remove Murdoch's Empire completely from their country.

[Uncle Joe]

10. Thanks for the thanks, Sabrina. I don't know what they can do in regards to totally getting

rid of his malignancy, but if that's their objective, I wish the British People the best in their endeavor.

Frankly, I would be astonished if the same abhorrent practices weren't being performed by his minions here in the U.S.

Peace to you.:hi:

[sabrina 1]

11. I do think those practices were going on here to be honest

and I hope they are investigated thoroughly.

Eg, remember when Murdoch, after using his media to trash the Clinton presidency for nearly eight years, did an about face and threw a party for Hillary when she decided to run for the NY Senate?

That was a shock to many people at the time, both left and right.

But now I have read that Bill contacted him and asked for his support for her.

This is exactly how British elected officials dealt with Murdoch. Cameron, eg, hired Coulson to keep Murdoch on his side, and Blair use to jump when Murdoch called.

It seems, just remembering the Clinton/Murdoch alliance that the same thing was going on here where he was viewed as a sort of 'Kingmaker'. I have to say I never suspected that. I thought they used him, not they NEEDED him.

[Uncle Joe]

12. I can't help but wonder how much information produced by this phone hacking of politicians

and even cultural icons was used for extortion purposes?

How many people in positions of power supposedly representing the best interests of their nation and people does he have by the short hairs?

To my way of thinking, hacking or wiretapping information used for the extortion of government whether done to benefit another nation or advance the rule of border-less mega-corporations is the equivalent of espionage.

[Jefferson23]

15. I agree with your suggestion, this appears more each day as espionage..not an exaggeration

to characterize it as such.

[sabrina 1]

16. 'the equivalent of espionage'. Exactly. And I think you are not

the only one thinking that. I've seen more than a few people express that opinion lately as we learn more and more about what they have been up to.

One recent article I read stated that these are people 'without borders'. They do not relate to any country. Banks and power, money is all they can relate to and countries are merely places to find resources they can acquire. That is why Social Programs mean nothing to them. People dying means nothing to them. I believe they are sociopaths and we are in a time where the systems put in place since the Reagan years, has attracted more and more of them towards the opportunities that should never have been made available to them.