The GOP tried to destroy President OBAMA by attacking his base in organized labor

[MrScorpio]

Now The People, with small donations, have backed him up.

$86 million dollars should scare the piss out of them.

That's because the Republicans have scared The People. and they've decided to do something about it.

[Kahuna]

1. Yep! Another, Oopsie on their part.

:patriot:

[OHdem10]

2. We are aware that the 86 million is the comined DNC and Obama.

according to PBS. Newshour.

[Kahuna]

3. True. But the Prez raised all of it..

:patriot:

[Bandit]

4. That isn't even one day of NET PROFIT for Exxon

When the Big Shots start rolling out their dough it will be felt..And I am talking NET Profit, after every single expense has been paid. Exxon has been making an average of over a hundred million dollars a day, every day, day in and day out for opver a decade..And the Republicans think they need the tax payer subsidies they have been receiving now for at least that long...Also as a side note, every single year over the last decade they have cut jobs..

[The Big Vetolski]

5. The GOP didn't have to do anything. Obama's done a fine job

attacking his own base all by himself.

[MrScorpio]

6. So are you saying that Obama is worse than the goddamned Republicans?

Because frankly, I'd rather deal with him than the GOPers ANT day of the week.

[TheKentuckian]

7. Not nearly as bad but more dangerous to our causes and goals.

Dipshit Democrats that lean authoritarian will accept whatever the leaders want and allow anyone with a (D) next to their name to take us in the exact same direction as the fuckwits, I assume as long as there is someone that is pushing more overtly to the same ends.

[MrScorpio]

8. That's why we have primaries, to deal with them

We're the big tent party, more than they'll ever be.

What I think that you've described is a crisis of leadership. What we should do is promote the most progressive leaders possible. But most of all. these progressives must be the biggest fund raisers. It's all about money.

If the most progressive wing of the Democratic Party can't garner the votes and cash to guarantee clout, then they'll have to step back to those who do.

This is the main problem with American politics, the money factor. It's pretty much does everything to usurp democracy.

[TheKentuckian]

9. If that is the logic then defeat is preordained how is a champion of the poor and labor

supposed to consistently beat those with the blessing of the machine and a spicket of hot and cold running corporate ca$h?

You are advocating turning the party over to the corporatist and I'd rather it die than become a shadow puppet for the very people we oppose.

You identify a huge structural sink hole of the corrupting influence of money which hints you understand on a basic level, corporate capture but then call for it to be in all practical effect, embraced.

Do you have any serious reckoning of how wealth is concentrated in this country?

No, what it is time for is an end to the "Big Tent" platitude and to exorcise the corporate whores and cease giving them The People's party as a platform for the greedy fucks that are dismantling our nation for a bit of surplus pocket change.

"Those that do" are functionally an arm of the opposition, with a non-stop push to sell the same old failed, rejected, and/or counter-productive policies and world view of the opposition with different rhetoric.

They are at cross purposes with me and I have no shame in opposing them as the TeaPubliKlan because there is little difference in the endgame.

You tell us what would be different if both groups got their goals?

[MrScorpio]

10. Any kind of cultural cleansing along idealogical lines will spell the end of the Democratic Party

Both sides are serving the corporations well, and we both know this. But it's our side that's the most well equipped to function is a more fair fashion for all.

Look it's a fact of life that civilization and corporations are joined at the hip. Franky, I'd rather have us controlling them vs. them controlling us and the ONLY way for that to happen is through Democracy.

What I propose is public funding of all elections, shortening the length of campaign seasons to two months, making voter registration compulsory for all citizens over the age of 18 and giving free airtime for candidates ONLY on radio and TV. Proportional representation and elimination of gerrymandering will help as well.

Basically, that'll take private and corporate money out of the equation… Render it impotent, per se.

Yes, they have tremendous wealth, we both know that. But the only thing that can create an equalizer is a democratic society.

Eventually, we have to reject corporate personhood as well.

[The Big Vetolski]

11. Worthy goals, all. But what do you do if the Democratic Party

refuses to work for them, and its leadership actually works against them? There are good Democrats who agree with you and me on those issues, but there are others who at best give them lip service and then act against them. And many of THOSE people are in leadership positions. Some important Senators and governors come to mind. I'll name just one: former Senator Blanche Lincoln. I believe that if the Democratic Party is to survive, many others must suffer her fate.