Holy Shit !!! - I Finally Found It !!! (Not A Religious Reference)

[WillyT]

"The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis" by Bill Moyers
PBS - 1987

Link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3505348655137118430

And this is also handy (scroll down): http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_secret_shadow_government.htm

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I've been looking for this sucker for years now... have it on BETA Max, but... well, you know...

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[gateley]

1. Congrats! He was just on with Rachel, outstanding, natch. If

you didn't see it be sure to check it out on her site or watch the replay.

[WillyT]

3. Oh I Saw It Tonight... Caused Me To Do Just One More Search... Yippee !!!

A couple of years back, all I could find of this thing, after going on his site(s), PBS, Bill Moyer's NOW, Bill Moyer's Journal, Amazon, everything else I could think of... all I could get was a 5 minute segment form some college in Oregon.

I started getting all conspiracied-up, ya know?

But today... Nirvana.

Must now bookmark my own thread.

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[gateley]

15. I'm so happy you found it! I'd searched vainly for a video of

Biden talking about Veterans' rights (when he was still in the running early on) and couldn't find it ANYWHERE. Then PatSeg told me most of the Biden as Presidential Candidate vids disappeared when he became Obama's VP. So my conspiracy theory turned out to be (kind of) not :tinfoilhat: at all!

I've bookmarked your thread, too!

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[malaise]

2. K & R

I'll watch that again and again

[WillyT]

4. Me Too !!!

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:loveya:

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Can ya tell I'm excited???

:D

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[malaise]

5. Like you I love Bill Moyers

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[grasswire]

6. I have a magazine feature on Bill Moyer from the 70s!

It is a profile of him in Harpers Magazine when he worked for LBJ.

Very informative and most interesting.

[drokhole]

7. Ha, I just posted this in another thread (unaware of this OP)!

It's so devastatingly great, should be required viewing for all Americans...and it really makes you want to punch Ollie North (among others) square in the mouth!

[WillyT]

8. GMTA !!! And Agreed, It Should Be Required Viewing...

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[malaise]

12. And I had posted the link to this thread

in that thread :hi:

[drokhole]

17. I think we've officially entered into some kind of infinite, self-reflective, feedback loop...

Like when you point a camera at a monitor that displays the camera's output:



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[JuniperLea]

34. I just love fractal geometry!

[drokhole]

36. That's so incredibly cool!!!!

I see your cool spirally thing (a Golden Spiral, to boot), and raise you Romanesco Broccoli:





And, if you're as big of a geek as me on that kind of stuff, I have a feeling you'll love this book:

A Beginner's Guide to Constructing the Universe:
http://www.amazon.com/Beginners-Guide-Constructing-Universe-Mathematical/dp/0060926716

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[arikara]

40. I love that book!

If I could only take one book to a desert island it would be that one.

[drokhole]

41. Same here!

At times, that thing packs a profundity per sentence! And the quotes in the margins are an added treat. Gives you a new set of eyes to view the world with.

[H2O Man]

9. Bill was a

minister.

[Luminous Animal]

10. Wow! I'd forgotten all about this. Thank you. A very useful link!

[chollybocker]

11. It's always in the last place you look.

;) Great find.

Why is Bill Moyers not the most over-exposed voice on television today? (rhetorical question)

BETA-Max - lol. At what age do people not know what that means?

[WillyT]

13. Hey... I Had A BETA MAX Recorder/Sound Mixer...

It was called the Master Beta!

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Joke reflex... sorry.

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[madinmaryland]

14. I think you should call your congresscritter RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

[Overseas]

16. I have it on a well worn VHS tape. Really brilliant.

Thanks for finding another copy for us.

[WillyT]

18. You Are Quite Welcome !!! - As I Said Upthread... I Had It On Beta Max...

and VHS... but that was the last technological format with availability.

Could not find it on CD, CD-Rom, DVD, Apple I-Tunes, Android...

And as we speak... I search for a video capture program so I can have it, burn it, and share it.

And so I never lose it again,

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[proud patriot]

19. I have my Dad's copy on VHS too

and yes thanks WillyT

[WillyT]

20. For You... Anything...

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[xiamiam]

21. thanks for this..if only we had heeded this warning we wouldn't be where we are today..nt

[LiberalAndProud]

22. This is scarier now, knowing what came after, than it was at the time.

The breadth and the scope of Iran-Contra and everything that has happened since destroys the spirit and usurps hope. Thanks for this, WillyT, I think.

[Lucinda]

23. Bookmarking for tomorrow.

Thank you...and I'm glad you had a good ending to your quest!

[some guy]

24. thanks.

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[emsimon33]

25. Thank you!

[malaise]

26. Morning kick n/t

[PotatoChip]

27. Just finished watching the Bill Moyers piece.

As always, I am impressed w/his work and broadcasts. Great info there!

The 2nd link while probably useful in many ways, I take w/a grain of salt after having first read the author's bio.

Nonetheless, my thanks to the OP for sharing some really interesting stuff! K&R

[deutsey]

28. When this first aired I bought the book version because I thought the documentary

would go down the memory hole.

Thanks for posting!

[Hotler]

29. kicking. n/t

[WillyT]

30. Kick !!!

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[rbnyc]

31. Thank you so much. (nt)

[HCE SuiGeneris]

32. Thank you, Willy!

Very good stuff. :thumbsup:

[krispos42]

33. Who's Beta Max, and why did it take you so long to find him?

It's hardly a common name.























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[HCE SuiGeneris]

35. Early adopters are hard to pin down :) n/t

[fascisthunter]

37. Holy Shit is Right... how far the US has fallen

[jimmyflint]

38. Thanks for posting this, and thanks for everybody kicking it.

The other day I saw it but only had time to watch half. Today I could not remember the name of the video or who posted it. That video is like a time machine, bam! transported back to stuff I hadn't thought about in years. Very good,important,relevant video.

I don't care what anybody says, those clothes and hair styles are awesome. :headbang:

[WillyT]

39. LOL !!! - You Are Quite Welcome !!!

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