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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 10:40 AM
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DoJ Target: ALL individuals ever having accessed a tweet from any of Wikileaks related acct

http://wlcentral.org/node/864

<snip> the order implicates more than just the above named users and user accounts. The language seems to implicate every Twitter follower of each of the named accounts, which explains Wikileaks' announcement that "all 637,000 @wikileaks followers are a target".

<snip>Yet if we grant that all followers will be implicated by virtue of having received tweet data from the 7 primary targets, it seems the present language is also inclusive of anyone who has clicked on a link directing them to a tweet from any of the above accounts. If you did view one of these tweets at some point on or after November 1, 2009 (the cut-off date in stipulated in the subpoena) but were not signed in to Twitter, then even if you are not a registered user, it seems you too qualify as a "connection made to or from" the accounts. There is no stipulation that 'connections' must be from users who are following Wikileaks et al., or even that they must be from users who are signed in. If Twitter logs visitors, and it certainly does, then visitor data will be in these logs irrespective of whether they have a Twitter account.

<snip>And if the language of the court order is inclusive of all individuals ever having accessed a tweet from any of the targeted accounts (since 2009), then the number of people affected by the subpoena is much larger than the previous estimate of 600,000 Wikileaks followers.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 10:42 AM
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1. the line "Overly broad fishing expedition" comes to mind
from one of those old law and order episodes.
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 10:46 AM
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3. Now, everyone is enemy combatant and legally relevant
from the link

<snip> Although anyone can get this information from you when you visit their site, the concern here is over the manner in which the data will be used. Insofar as your information exists in the database that brought us the Terror Watch List, and insofar as you have been suspected of being the ally of a "high tech terrorist", trivial data have the potential of becoming legally relevant.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 10:56 AM
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7. language "seems to" Author speculation = DU meltdown
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 11:06 AM
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9. DU doesn't melt. We all look into various issues from all angle, Rational activities.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 10:45 AM
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2. I'm going to go follow all of those accounts, right now. n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 10:46 AM
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4. And we wonder what sets the paranoid schizophrenics off on Government?
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 10:53 AM
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5. "Washington reacts like a wounded bear, its instincts imperial but its power projection unproductive

Simon Jenkins quoted by TomDispatch
http://www.tomdispatch.com/archive/175327/

The once shiny badge of the “global sheriff” has lost its gleam and, in Dodge City, ever fewer are paying the sort of attention that Washington believes is its due. To my mind, the single most intelligent comment on the latest Wikileaks uproar comes from Simon Jenkins of the British
Guardian who, on making his way through the various revelations (not to speak of the mounds of global gossip), summed matters up this way: “The money-wasting is staggering. Aid payments are never followed, never audited, never evaluated. The impression is of the world's superpower roaming helpless in a world in which nobody behaves as bidden. Iran, Russia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, the United Nations, are all perpetually off script. Washington reacts like a wounded bear, its instincts imperial but its power projection unproductive.”
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 10:55 AM
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6. "The language -seems to- implicate" That's Opinion and Speculation
"Seems To" is the author's speculation so I don't see much need for a DU meltdown over this.

another line:

it seems the present language is also inclusive of anyone who has clicked on a link directing them to a tweet

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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 11:00 AM
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8. Well hell. I guess we are all going to Gitmo now.
Road Trip!!!

99 bottles of beer on the wall
99 bottles of beeeeer...

Well? If we are all enemy combatants now, it's not like there is anything we can do about it, is there? Might as well make it an interesting trip getting there. It'll be our last chance before they torture us into confessing to shit we didn't do.
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 11:19 AM
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10. Dan Kennedy: I am now following @ WikiLeaks. Come and get me, Mr. Holder.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/157572/wikileaks-news-views-blog-special-weekend-edition
Well-known U.S. media writer Dan Kennedy tweets: "As a First Amendment statement, I am now following @ WikiLeaks. Come and get me, Mr. Holder."
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 11:26 AM
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11. Low probative value: But as harrassment it's gold.
Next up, "no-fly" list for everyone?
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